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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Is it common for people to view the world as I do?

    Thread: Is it common for people to view the world as I do?


    Ovindu (Offline)

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    #1
    11-10-2020, 03:56 PM
    Have you ever felt that school is too much, that it is a major cause of stress? Do you go to school every weekday, only to be bullied and left in tears? Do you feel that the work we do in school is boring and repetitive?

    You are not alone. I think so too.

    We are taught to be the best in the class, to get the best grade, to do the most homework. However, none of this is important. We are not designed to be the best, not designed to outperform every other human being, not designed to follow instructions for a third of our day. We need rest, we have a heart, a spirit, and a mind. We are not robots designed to follow instructions for a portion of our life.

    Think about it. Everything you do in school is, ultimately, for an exam of some sorts - what is the point in learning stuff only to do to exams with it. For example, when you study chemistry, you are not studying chemistry to use chemistry in your life, you are studying chemistry to do exams about chemistry - which you will forget 10 minutes after doing the test.

    If you feel restless, tired, anxious, nervous at school - please do not feel ashamed for you are not designed to work in such conditions. The most important aspects of life are the simple moments - in which one can rest in a meditative trance and observe the beauty of nature.

    Although we are so covered in technology these days, we were not designed to be. The purpose of life is not to get a diploma, or to win the Nobel price, or to get 76 A*s - the purpose of life is to be here now and just observe the divine quality of nature.

    It does not take a single exam for you to be spiritual - just the mere interest in the small moments of life.

    The foundation of our society is built on sand, a foundation that will not last very long if it does not change. There are already cracks in our system and the innocent students are the ones falling through the cracks of the system. It is not students' fault it is because humanity has placed itself on a foundation that it was not meant to be place on in the first place.

    Even systems that we believe are so rigid, like money, are not rigid. They are nothing more than mental constructs that people have made.

    Money has no value. The only reason we think that a £5 note is worth £5 is because we believe it is worth £5, but there is no inherent quality that made the note worth £5. A leaf could be worth £100 if we all believed it. There are people on this planet that have nothing to eat, nowhere to call home, no time to live, nothing to life for. What is the reason behind this? It is because they do not have enough money!

    We made something called 'money' and gave it an imaginary value, which we all agreed on, now we have become slaves to our own invention.

    After reading all this, you may be left with a stark question: 'What is the point in living?'

    The point in living is to experience the divine way in which the moon orbits the Earth, to find internal enlightenment in this very second, to go and sit in front of a plant and wonder at the miracle of life, wondering 'Is it true that the same life force that flows through me flows through that plant?', to sit under the starry sky with an open mouth and imagine 'I wonder what could be moving those stars, wonder what might be up there?'

    When one starts to experiment with the ethereal side of life - one is already spiritual, and it does not take an A* or a Diploma, or a Degree to be spiritual. Just the mere interest in the small moments of life. Blush Blush
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    #2
    11-10-2020, 07:54 PM
    Ovindu, you seem to be figuring most of human society stuff issues at an arguably young age. This can lead you to unbalance problems, most specifically regarding the over/underdevelopment of your qualities as a human being. If the development of the mind is not met with equal development of the body and the heart, you might be prone to several consequences that stem from such imbalance.

    3D life is specially designed to be teaching one lessons through the so-called catalysts all the time, regardless of their outlook or consciousness level, for such is the design of this matrix.

    Thus, one might benefit from being mindful of the traps that lie in the unbalanced development of the faculties of one's 3D existence.

    The whole point, aside from making the Choice, is to balance complementaries in this 3D experience. This community terms wisdom and compassion as complementaries, so you might get the idea of what this refers to.

    You seem to be in a state of awe, of wonder, about life in general, and about the probabilities and possibilities of the leading of your life. Thus, maybe no answer that is given from an outside source will be sufficient for you, although maybe you might find the most fitting answer within.
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    11-10-2020, 08:57 PM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2020, 08:58 PM by Black Dragon.)
    Don't even get me started on the education system, and all the changes that would be necessary to make it truly functional. I'm 30, but the memories are still fresh. As you have noticed, like a lot institutions in society, it lacks integrity, wholesomeness, authenticity, etc. It is not made so much for learning, but for programming. It's not for finding/working on a student's natural strength and weaknesses and finding a path of self-actualization through life like it should be, but meeting arbitrary standards based on the general backwards life priorities of the masses, what they think is useful or that it takes to be a "productive member" of(a degenerate) society.

    At times from 5th grade through high school, it really felt like a meaningless prison and worse. I look back at how much it cause to be stressed/burnt out/tired of "serving others" in the way society felt was appropriate, to the point of being lazy/selfish as a kid some times just to desperately grab for some freedom and self-actualization(and simple joy and fun) while living in a society that couldn't care less about giving me the opportunities for any of those things.

    All that said, the way I look at it now my biggest regret wasn't being stuck having to go to school, it's about wasting that time between grudgingly trying to get the work done and worrying about careers and stuff, letting the system plant doubts as to what's a "practical" career choice, etc. while spending the rest of the time just not paying attention to a lot of crap like math I wasn't interested in, and being a loner with few friends and a general disdain and avoidance of the stupid social games people play.

    If I could go back, I just wouldn't stress as much or let the system give me doubts or convince me of what's a practical life path or what's not. I'd know from the beginning to disregard what anyone said and follow my own path. I'd put a bit more effort into school, especially the areas that could help me achieve my own goals, while not stressing the "grades" and tests and outer approval from society, but use the education available for my own uses to be independently successful later and not dependent on the same system that provides my crappy education then rest of my life, as best I could.

    I'd try a bit more to connect with others and be less of a loner, regardless of what anyone thought about me or about what small judgments I'd have about them. I'd try to connect in a way more authentic as best as I could, beyond the social games and the crap.

    As @meadow-foreigner said, the only right answer is inside. Society's expectations and all that is just background noise, and to navigate that mess you are going to want to tune that out in favor of your inner voice. The answers might not be so much about drastically changing your circumstances so much as they way which you relate to them and the voices you let sway and guide you, whether that's you inner voice or based on anxieties and societal expectations.
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    #4
    11-10-2020, 09:17 PM
    I so agree Black Dragon with what you say about school and how to use one's time better at it, but let's be honest it would take such wisdom to be able to step back and see how it could be more useful to you when you are just a kid... It does show how the education system needs so much, so much to change, and how teachers could be and should be so much more inspiring.
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    11-10-2020, 11:15 PM
    I agree Ovindu.

    Education is a means to an end. It is not the reality of who we are. We go to school or university to help us understand the material world and get by in it. It will not show us the truth of who we are. Only spiritual life can do that for us.

    I'm 38, and I have vivid memories of feeling like I was in prison during my school years. I still have a light form of PTSD when thinking about going on training courses and writing exams. I would rather meditate and read something about spirituality.
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    11-11-2020, 03:30 AM
    Hi. Thank you for your message Smile
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    11-11-2020, 03:33 AM
    Me too, I would rather sit around a campfire. I managed to forgive the teachers that made me do the most work using Ho’oponopono - I now feel love to them for a certain extent, for helping me spiritually grow
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    11-11-2020, 03:46 AM
    I dropped out at 18, couldn't justify it to myself. It seemed like depression on the surface, but subconsciously it was my intuition telling me to let go of this sick, profane society, it doesn't need more worker bees to be churned through for profit so wealthy depressed people can keep drinking salty water to quench their thirst for life.

    The greatest mistake we've made is mistaking memory for intelligence.
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    11-11-2020, 12:13 PM
    Yes, I wanna drop out but I have a reputation for being a nerd in school. Everyone expects me to be like Einstein. The reason why no one succeeds in school is they force us to remember 700 things before exams and then forget them the day after. This is not intelligence this is memory. And even more important than intelligence is wisdom. Which this world is missing.
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    11-11-2020, 01:03 PM
    Well, I must agree with you that the educational system is flawed and meaningless. They are not creating thinking beings, but workers, mere labor. The fact is that in today's world everything revolves around having a good job and earning as much money. Life is all about "winning". The capitalist system is built on an orange / yellow energy pattern that encourages power gain over others, competition and selfishness. Society is a stone jungle governed by the law of the strongest. All of this is basically an STS perspective. Although in a broader perspective I also agree with you that the concept of money is one of the biggest distortions on this planet. Ra implies that the money variable (which did not exist in Venus) was one of the main variables that hindered their work with the earthlings:

    Quote:Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences, we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system, and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical thirddensity planet than your own, and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.
    (60.15)

    However, also be aware of the fact that the school environment, as well as any other environment where there is interaction with other selves, are good opportunities for the entity to experience the catalysis and to begin its spiritual development. I also think that although the teaching method is flawed, it is undeniable that we need the information that is taught to us. So, you have the option of knowing the fact that you are in a "matrix", you can use it to your advantage, transmitting to others your perception of how things really are and being catalysis for their questioning. This is a form of service and a way to evolve even within the educational limitations exposed by you.
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    #11
    11-21-2020, 01:03 AM
    Have you aware of Jon Jandai?
    https://youtu.be/21j_OCNLuYg

    A thai dude, who now championed the theme of "Life is easy, why makes it hard?".
    Based on his personal life experience of living in Bangkok with so much money is harder than living in the village without money.

    You're right about the point in living is to experience the divine way, but there are billions of ways / path within the divine way. And the divine wanted to experience as much as possible of those ways. That's why "He" (or should it be said "We") created the 'distortion' that makes experiencing those ways possible within this divine game.

    Jandai walked his way, you walked your way, I walked my way, they walked their way.
    All variety of experiences will be 'collected' and 'shared' within the divine.

    There isn't any correct or wrong way, good or bad way.
    Jandai's way is experiencing his way in the village while Sumchai's way is experiencing his way in Bangkok.
    There are billions or actually infinite number of ways.
    Thus find your own way that you want to walk upon and then walk upon it with confidence.

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