The CE5 Thread: Contact Has Begun!

[Black Dragon]

Anyone interested in Dr. Steven Greer's work already knows this movie and concept, so here's the place to discuss it! For those interested in the UFO phenomenon, ET contact, and related subjects, I would highly recommend checking out DR. Steven Greer's work, most importantly the movie "Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun". If you cannot get/purchase the movie for some reason, it would be worth at least doing a search on "CE5".

Simply put, a close encounter of the fifth kind is human initiated contact with ET civilizations, especially that outside of the framework of any formal disclosure or any involvement with any government, military, corporate, or any other type of earthly "authority". Yes, you heard that right. The time has come where ET civilizations are making direct contact with individuals and small groups who so desire, and make the calling, so to speak. This is not dependent on any "official" disclosure, or change in world government or affairs. They are not waiting for that day, humanity has made the call, and it is time to answer. Those in power who are not willing to let go of the old systems and embrace contact and freedom, and those who are of the general population who wish to cling to old beliefs and would be disturbed too greatly, will have more time to live in their bubbles with their free will being respected. Those who wish to make contact will also have our free will respected.

For me, personally, I had to let go of some biases, resentments, and feelings of abandonment, and the usual fears that accompany the concept of contact. The movie was a good eye opener to help me make that push, a push towards unencumbered, simple innocence, wonder, and openness that a child would have. This is the state I would recommend if anyone wants to do CE5 work. That being said, nobody is requiring that you be perfect, completely undistorted, or a spiritual adept in order to have contact. You can have all the human distortions you want, but you must be honest about them, and willing to put them aside and at least be open to making a space for the contact.

Some here may have a bias that finds anything UFO or ET related to be "transient" or unimportant to spiritual progress. If it's unimportant to YOUR own progress, cool, nobody's telling you to do it or care about it, but for those who do have the desire, it is a path to learning and expansion and greater connectedness with all that is, if that is what you desire for it to be, and if it is of your highest excitement. It is also a service to humanity, when we are all subconsciously linked by morphic fields and that interconnectedness grows stronger yet in our 4d shift. Making the contact brings new energies and more connectedness not only into an individual, but it brings those things into the collective morphic field and opens those pathways for all of humanity. It has one of those(*brainfart*)...what's the word...exponential(?) effects, where it only takes a small percentage of humanity doing this to have a large impact.

So yeah, feel free to discuss the movie, Dr. Steven Greer's work in general, CE5 work, personal experiences/results, ask questions, anything related.

[sillypumpkins]

I finished the movie today and thought it was great!!

I went into it with some healthy skepticism, it only took like 30-45 minutes before I was completely absorbed. Dr. Greer clearly knows what he's talking about, having had many many 5th encounters with many different people. Personally, it definitely shifted something in me in regards to how I view ET contact, and why that contact can occur.

In the Ra Material, it talks of "thought-form" craft, and the purpose of such encounters (to incite a feeling of being "activated" or "awakened.") I never really understood what a "thought-form" craft would be like. I thought it was something that sort of just happened mentally for someone, i.e not something that a group of people could witness. However, after watching the movie, I understand more what a "thought-form" craft is. In now understanding this, among other things presented in the film, it has also led me to understand much more. It gets into unity consciousness and.... welll.... just watch it!! You won't regret it.

There is some fascinating photo and video as well..... I am enamored and am still processing all of it.

Overall, this is a very important movie, and I highly recommend anyone watch it if they feel so inclined. Especially if you are into the Ra Material. Which.... I assume most of us are

Thank you dragon for sharing.....!!

[Scah]

The movie was a good eye opener to help me make that push, a push towards unencumbered, simple innocence, wonder, and openness that a child would have. This is the state I would recommend if anyone wants to do CE5 work.

To me, this is also the most important concept that the movie and Dr. Greer have shown me.
A dedicated faith in the innocence, wonder and openness towards the UNKNOWN.

The part that moved me the most is when he was telling the story of when he met with an intelligence director person and after Dr. Greer had briefed the director on what Dr. Greer was doing (contact with ETs and the cover up done by the government), the director asked Dr. Greer "What we don't understand is that how come you haven't killed yourself yet". The director asked that question because his own father killed himself after knowing some of the ET and cover up stuff. Dr. Greer then shared that some of his colleagues had killed themselves or assassinated because of their involvement in this exploration of the unknown. He went further and explained that he didn't kill himself partly because he had a NDE when he was younger and partly because of the survivor guilt. I mean I can't imagine the kind of faith this man has to be able to endure experiences like that and still keep his innocence, wonder and openness towards humanity and the unknown. This story also shows the effects of being aware of the unknown. It either opens one up or screws one up depending on how balance or distorted one is.

Some here may have a bias that finds anything UFO or ET related to be "transient" or unimportant to spiritual progress. If it's unimportant to YOUR own progress, cool, nobody's telling you to do it or care about it, but for those who do have the desire, it is a path to learning and expansion and greater connectedness with all that is, if that is what you desire for it to be, and if it is of your highest excitement. It is also a service to humanity, when we are all subconsciously linked by morphic fields and that interconnectedness grows stronger yet in our 4d shift. Making the contact brings new energies and more connectedness not only into an individual, but it brings those things into the collective morphic field and opens those pathways for all of humanity. It has one of those(*brainfart*)...what's the word...exponential(?) effects, where it only takes a small percentage of humanity doing this to have a large impact.

I used to be one of these people that regards UFO and ETs as unimportant topics to spiritual progress. But then LOO was started with one man's interest in UFOs and ETs. And Ra material is the product of humans making contact with an ET. The exploration of unknown is, in essence, an exploration of spirituality.
The movie ties in meditation and consciousness with making ET contact and ET exploration beautifully.

Side note: The docu-movie showed a picture of a woman experiencing kundalini awakening and that picture is the image i had in my mind's eye when I had mine. That image was very interesting.

I honestly understand how weird this is. I have been making my friends watching this docu-movie whether they are seekers or not because even if they didn't understand anything, the movie would at least plant a seed of the possibilities of what's out there in their minds. One of my friends watched the movie despite the fact that she had absolutely no interest in ET and UFO. After she finished it, she sent me a message thanking me for the recommendation because she found the conscious portion of the movie (2nd half of the movie) so interesting that she finally got back to meditation (Yay!)

It really is a well paced docu-movie that I highly recommend to anyone who got 2 hours and some money to spare. (it's on itune ($5 to rent) and amazon prime?).

[Black Dragon]

It might be a similar price to rent on Prime now. When I first saw it on Prime, they did that thing they do where new movies only have a buy option for like a week, and my mom and I were bored and needed something to watch, so I broke down and purchased it for $20(ouch). At least I have it to re-watch or share with others(when this corona fiasco is over). There's a lot worse movies I could have spent $20 on though, that's for sure.

I'm glad others here are having as good of an experience with the movie as I did. As awesome as the Ra material is, things can get to be sort of an echo chamber when people re-hash UFO related bits of the material from damn near 40 years ago that may not quite hold true today, such as most of the visible contact being from Orion or other negative sources, and positive groups being reluctant or unwilling to engage in direct contact, even on an individual and small group basis. Those dynamics have certainly changed. It's not all roses, negative ETs exist, but they don't have very much "hands-on" to do with Earth's shifting process at the moment, and their physical presence here in our skies has diminished if not stopped outright.

There are the craft of negative elite human factions which differ drastically in purpose, style, and performance from "the real thing", and there is a strong possibility of a false-flag/attack disclosure farce, but what is mostly being seen in the skies, and who is responding to initiatives like CE5, are positive in nature.

As far as my own experiences, I already experienced some phenomena on camera simply recording flights of my RC planes, but now that I'm opening myself and actually inviting/initiating it, it has only increased and become a bit more varied. It's certainly fun and interesting to do CE5 and see and/or record craft and other phenomena(all of mine have been invisible to the naked eye until I check my camera, cloaked or phased somehow, which is useful if they don't want to cause a stir but make themselves known to an individual or small group). As cool as this is, its only the surface.

Deeper and more meaningful contact will require more on my part; working on myself, releasing distortions, meditating, and training my mind to receive clear telepathic contact and work from the dream state as well. This is all stuff that's helpful and in my best interest and for my spiritual progress anyway, regardless if I was interested in ET contact or not, so while challenging, this is the real "meat" of the issue, and will be the most rewarding.

[Themistocles]

Thanks for the great recommendation again! Everyone here has already helped with my spiritual growth especially during this time of quarantine. I’ll look into the movie and get back with you guys! Thanks again

[flofrog]

Welcome here Themistocles, it 's a nice place

thank you black dragon for the movie I shall watch it tomorrow. Had two encounters in my life with UFOs, both in fact sort of very normal if that's a right word for it , lol

[Black Dragon]

Thanks for the great recommendation again! Everyone here has already helped with my spiritual growth especially during this time of quarantine. I’ll look into the movie and get back with you guys! Thanks again

I'm glad you found this thread, I was actually planning on checking in with you personally to see what's up and how you were doing, and mention this video to you. There's a lot of documentaries about ET contact and UFOs out there, from complete BS, to honest but generic/same old stuff rehashed, to some truly excellent and informative films. If I were to recommend just one, especially for people who have had experiences throughout their lives, it would be this one. We've had these experiences in the background of our lives for a reason, and now I feel it's time for me to really delve deeper, open up to it, and take the initiative. I think you'll find the film really exciting and eye opening.

[Black Dragon]

military/industrial/intelligence complex viewing the CE5 movie



Dr. Steven Greer

[sillypumpkins]

I would love to initiate my own contact with the app, I just don't have much means of going to a space in which it could occur..... I live in an apartment in the city... soooo

I'm moving down to Asheville come the fall, so it'll be much more feasible then

[Black Dragon]

I would love to initiate my own contact with the app, I just don't have much means of going to a space in which it could occur..... I live in an apartment in the city... soooo

I'm moving down to Asheville come the fall, so it'll be much more feasible then

As far as some sort of landing, face to face meeting, or really big/obvious stuff you can see with the naked eye, its pretty rare and would require a more isolated space. However, Getting some UFO activity to happen on you camera? That can be done anywhere there's sky, even from your apartment. I have a small desert lot across the street where I fly my RC planes, and I also have taken CE5 footage from my own back yard, in a residential neighborhood. They don't have to be seen by the naked eye for a camera to pick it up, so if you were to do it from where you are and just point a camera at the sky for a while, then go back and look at the footage, I'm sure you'd get something. Also, anything meditative or telepathic in nature can be done from anywhere.

[jacrob]

I watched a few Steven Greer vids years ago and the first one had MK symbolism within the first 5 minutes, lots of if.  I have always been suspicious of him.  This whole disclosure threat he made a few years ago which came to nothing is interesting too.  I.e. if Governments do not acknowledge such and such we will release a wave of UFO info...to which no release was made.  I think his interest is money, fame and/or disinformation.  But to each his own, if you enjoy what he does then by all means keep watching.

[Black Dragon]

I watched a few Steven Greer vids years ago and the first one had MK symbolism within the first 5 minutes, lots of if.  I have always been suspicious of him.  This whole disclosure threat he made a few years ago which came to nothing is interesting too.  I.e. if Governments do not acknowledge such and such we will release a wave of UFO info...to which no release was made.  I think his interest is money, fame and/or disinformation.  But to each his own, if you enjoy what he does then by all means keep watching.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I think if anyone's legit, its him. Every idiot with a youtube channel or an account on conspiracy forums or reddit tries to define what is or isn't "MK ultra symbolism", and there would certainly be a concerted effort, if Greer is for real, to try to "debunk" him online with statements such as yours, especially in an attempt to derail the CE5 innitiative...I think the CE5 info is a much bigger release than some stupid old redacted documents, pictures of craft, or whatever he was "threatening" to release-you could literally release a "smoking gun" piece of evidence and it wouldn't make a splash, because of how brainwashed people are and all the "debunking" efforts. If not Greer, who actually is pushing for real disclosure?

Tom Delonge, the celebrity false-disclosure buttpuppet? Q? Don't make me fucking laugh...

Now, I'm not necessarily saying that you are up to no good or something like that, but you may be getting you info on Greer and what is or isn't "MK Ultra symbolism" from bullshit sources. If some questionable imagery really did make it into one of his videos, there is also the possibility that it was put in there unbeknownst to him. It takes a lot of people to work on a movie, and maybe you are right about the symbolism, and it was snuck in there under his nose, and while he is a smart man, he may not have necessarily recognized it for what it was. Which video are you referring to, if I may ask?

[jacrob]

Wow the tone on this forum has definitely changed. Oh well. The vid I was referring to was too many years ago to remember. I started one a year ago to see what he had to say and a few minutes into it the was a random woman doing the one eye thing, very obviously. It may have been Unacknowledged or something. Opening credits.

[Black Dragon]

Wow the tone on this forum has definitely changed. Oh well. The vid I was referring to was too many years ago to remember. I started one a year ago to see what he had to say and a few minutes into it the was a random woman doing the one eye thing, very obviously. It may have been Unacknowledged or something. Opening credits.

I'll look into it, for the sake of being open minded. I'm my own authority, Steven Greer is simply someone I respect based on what I've seen and heard from him so far. If I found any real evidence he was full of crap other than hearsay and half-baked ideas about "MK Ultra symbolism" that anyone can cut and paste from a forum such as Above Top Secret or Alex Jones or Wes Penre or what have you, then I would no longer support him. I'm not sure how much these forums have or haven't changed since last time you've been active...I can just be a bit of an abrasive a******, especially when I see somebody trying to shoot down a movement and source of information that resonates with me, and all evidence I've seen so far seems to validate, with what I see as half-baked debunker and fear based assumptions probably based on misinformation about "MK Ultra" most likely gleaned from some random YouTube or Reddit user, or a source such as the examples I stated above.

Don't let me scare you off, I respect your right to share your views and opinions. So far, I just ain't seeing the validity in what you are saying, and a million reasons why shills would want to spew disinfo about Greer and make him look like the shill, and with that, a million fear-based reasons why somebody who probably has the best of intentions, would simply swallow that disinfo hook, line, and sinker, and discount Greer at the drop of a hat based on some half-assed crap they read about "MK Ultra symbolism".

I'll look into it from every perspective I can find, and look at all the evidence. Right now, I'm seeing three possibilities, all of which have to be explored. A.) Steven Greer is legit, and you are basing your ideas about what is or isn't MK Ultra symbolism on complete hogwash and misinfo/disinfo. B.) You are correct about the nature of the imagery you saw, and it was slipped in there unbeknownst to Greer to derail the tone of his work, mess with people who view it, and ultimately be discovered so he would be discredited. C.) You are 100% correct, and Greer is a shill and a tool just like Tom Delonge and a lot of others.

I will keep an open mind, look into what you said, and give you the benefit of a doubt. However, I have to say that I really don't know you, and some members here who I really respect, that admittedly have a much purer and less distorted discernment and intuition than myself, have watched the CE5 movie and found it to really resonate with them, and be positive and inspiring. These people are of a generally easy-going and not a fear based nature, so I respect their assessments of things like this.

Anyone else want to weigh in here?

[Black Dragon]

I'm going to continue to do more intensive research to bring the facts to light here, but after a few quick searches, your standpoint is not looking good, and here's why:

Searches of "Steven Greer disinfo", Steven Greer shill", and similar terminology do not lead to anyone who has really done reliable research and fact-checking. The vast majority of the claims of Greer being a disinfo agent, fake, or shill, come from random posters with one or two paragraph max rants with no evidence or supporting facts on two sites in particular; abovetopsecret, and godlikeproductions...which is pretty much exactly what I expected I was going to find. If you want to believe information from flat out garbage sources like these is reliable, go ahead, be my guest.

A search of the terms "Steven Greer MK Ultra" leads to nothing I can find so far. You seem to be one of the very few people or only person making this claim so far, based on some silly pose or hand sign some lady did in the opening on one of the movies. I'll be looking into this further, but I'm not seeing any indicators so far to back up your assertion.

What Greer has going for him is he seems to be spot on in calling out the real shills, disinfo agents, and psy-ops, for example Tom Delonge and Corey Goode. Most of the people that want to call him out are people on garbage conspiracy sites like I mentioned above, who are either pissed off that he's making a living off of this and charging a few bucks for his movies, have a fear based view that the "aliens are out to get us", or a view that his claims are "sensationalist"(usually those who have a purely nuts-and-bolts perspective on UFOS, and/or are waiting on official disclose from the government and believe ET's would not find making contact with regular people important, and are waiting for them to land on the white house lawn...).

Again, I will look deeper into it, but so far, I'm seeing no merit in your claims, and they are leading me to pretty much all the bullshit places I expected.

[Asolsutsesvyl]

I tend to be suspicious of this type of information, but not because of alleged links to secret human conspiracies. I've delved into works concerning the negative types of contacts, and cannot dismiss the significance of such, which also exist and account for a significant portion (though the exact portion is not easy to be sure of). For example, the work of Karla Turner concerning abductions and mind-programming by "visitors", who hide the real nature of what has happened behind screen memories and installed mental blockages.

Some lump all "ET" contact in the category of an attempted invasion and/or re-engineering of humanity for negative purposes. Some go the other way and dismiss all such claims as based on unfounded fears, or confusions. Both positive and negative entities not of this world have interacted with humanity for many millennia, based on the various types of findings of alternative historians and paranormal researchers. I take the possibility of positive contact seriously, but I also take the topic of ongoing negative interventions seriously.

Various terms are used by various people. With the space age, the ET way of looking at things became the most common. Earlier in history, a variety of ideas of supernatural beings were used to describe basically the same things. It seems that such beings have been around for very long, but not in the same physical space, except for their "appearances" - and so, "ultraterrestrial" is another word used to describe them; related to this place, to Earth, but usually not "down to Earth" in a visible way. But with the coming of the transition into 4D for Earth, every 4D faction hoping that people on this planet will come to resonate with its ways and basic nature becomes "available", for good and ill, and more things of this kind happen.

[jacrob]

To each his own, follow your gut feeling. I would like to watch something of his without the urge to switch it off after a few minutes. So that I can try to find out why I find him so repellent. He may be the voice of reason, or the complete opposite, I can't make an informed decision as I can't get very far with his work. It's the same with almost all well-known truthers. I switch off.

[Asolsutsesvyl]

I also cannot really get into Greer, and so cannot discuss his work in detail. I've mostly come across comments on Greer from those who study the activity and possible agendas of 4D STS (whether they name it so, or not). The main criticism of Greer is that his hype is baseless and his dismissal of negative interactions with "aliens" is irresponsible. Some go further and see him as an ambassador for the "dark side".

Especially when it comes to spiritually-charged matters, one possible explanation for strong responses without much of an intellectual reason for them is the "bias, which cannot really be called an understanding" which wanderers can be equipped with as an "armor of light", according to Ra. But there can also be a variety of other reasons, and there can be many reasons for diverging responses other than spiritual orientation.

[sillypumpkins]

The main criticism of Greer is that his hype is baseless and his dismissal of negative interactions with "aliens" is irresponsible.

Hmmm.... I can see why someone would say that...

However, and I have only seen the new movie, I never heard him dismiss negative interactions with "aliens"....

I believe it is mentioned (in the new movie and in the Ra Material as well,) that negative interactions with "aliens" are set up in a way to instill feelings of fear, as a means of control. Both the movie and the Ra material get into that. I don't remember him ever dismissing negative interactions with "aliens" in any way. In fact, the crux of his work, to me, relies on recognizing these negative contacts, and then saying "you can go about this differently." Because the status quo with alien contact has predominately been, invasion, world domination, war, all these negatively-oriented ideas.

I understand the hype with him personally.... the idea that alien contact can be so radically different from what we've been fed is, well... pretty exciting for lots of people!! Including me

[Black Dragon]

I'm one of the last people who would deny the existence and reality of negative extra terrestrials. That being said, I don't think there's one hiding under every rock, and I think the majority of direct negative contact with Earth is in the past, while most or practically all of the ones visiting and working with us now at the time of transformation are positive, and most of the seemingly negative contact experiences within the last decade or so at least have been people dealing with their own thought forms and past life memories and baggage rather than real negative contact.

I think some of the most negative beings that are still causing trouble are entrenched earthbound remnants such a djinn, earthbound ET's living and entering from underground, ETC., and most real negative contact from flying craft are government factions and programs with reverse engineered craft. I realize some of the LOO material from like 40 years ago says that most encounters with craft are "Orion" negatives, but if that were ever the case, I think things have changed and they are pretty much crowded out of our skies and surrounding space, working more from a distance and through earthbound proxies.

I don't think Steven Greer is infallible, and if I ever find out he's full of it, I'll be the first one to say so, just not getting any indicator so far. My main statement I'd like to add is that if one is coming from a perspective of love and requesting contact with those that come in love and requesting it be facilitated by the higher self for the greatest good, I just don't see a situation in which they will be dragged on board an Orion craft and mercilessly butt probed in the name of the empire.

[Spaced]

Does anyone have experience working with the CE5 protocol?

To me Dr. Greer's credibility is less interesting than if this stuff works.

[Black Dragon]

Does anyone have experience working with the CE5 protocol?

To me Dr. Greer's credibility is less interesting than if this stuff works.

I'm not to say what would work or what won't for every individual and their own beliefs, free will choices, pre incarnative conditions, etc. In general, I'd say yes this does work. A lot of people have tried it and gotten results. I'd say the results are based on where you are at and how open you are. Getting some activity on video is pretty "easy", making a deeper connection will go at an individual's pace. As far as actual experience? I was getting stuff on camera just flying my RC planes before even making the effort, but it's only increased since I've opened more to it and deliberately done the CE5 stuff to the best of my ability. The intent is more important than doing the visualizations perfectly, especially for somebody who already has these ongoing connections at play in their lives.

[David_1]

    My comments are in reply to the questions asked by “Spaced”, but also to anyone else interested.
   I have not watched the movie.
   Since I was very young, I have been interested in ETs.  When I bought a copy of the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book in the 1960s, I was amazed that they basically had nothing to say.  I now realize they knew a lot, but had nothing to say!
   Quite a few years ago, years before I was aware of The Law of One, I signed up for a multi-day excursion with Dr. Greer.  In those days his “tuition” fee seemed reasonable – now it is beyond what I can afford.
   So, my comments are based on personal observations.  I could be wrong.  I could be misled, but I’ll say a wee bit about what I saw over a number of nights, very late at night when it was very dark, with a small group in a location far from anything else.  Mostly we sat in lawn chairs in a circle, so someone would be looking every direction.  There were likely no other humans within a mile of where we were.
   Since I now have read extensively in the Transcripts, including The Law of One, my interpretations are colored slightly.
   I truly believe Dr. Greer is a positively oriented person.  I believe his work has also been oriented positively.  (His one major flaw, in my opinion, is that he believes all ETs are positive, and negative ETs do not exist.)
   People who have read The Law of One know that many life forms can communicate telepathically.  To simplify, the CE5 protocol is mentally inviting ETs to appear or interact in a manner and form that is safe for both us and them.  (I am convinced that the technique is more effective with a group rather than with a single person, because of the combined intention of a group.)
   Not once during my experiences did I ever have the feeling of fear.  My emotions were more along the line of childish giddy delight.  So, I think that either the entities interacting were positive, or they were clever.  I did not get any feelings of negativeness.
   During the several nights I saw well over a dozen craft.  They varied in distance from the farthest being perhaps 100 meters away to the closest perhaps 30 meters away.  They were a variety of shapes.  My speculation was that a typical object was about the size of a house or smaller, down to the size of a car.  They had a variety of lights, and in some cases the entire craft glowed.  In several situations they hovered motionless for more than a minute.  I do not remember ever hearing any sounds coming from them.
   Based on my later readings of The Law of One, I now think they may have been “thought forms”, but they were not my hallucinations, because they show up on photographs.  (In those days my camera was not modern, and my pictures were typically poor quality.)
   For the following two situations, you need to remember that I had told the ETs that I would appreciate it if they could show themselves to me in a manner that was safe for both me and them.
   I have a physical limitation in that it is very difficult for me to sit at rest in a chair for hours on end.  So, when we were in the group, I occasionally snuck off in the dark and quietly went on a short walk before returning.  Once I saw a pattern of tiny twinkly lights, like pixie dust, in a pattern on the ground, perhaps about two feet around.  There might have been some thirty tiny dots of bright green light.  I knelt down on my knees and tried to touch them, and noticed they seemed to be about two inches below ground level!  But their light passed through the ground as if it wasn’t there.  I couldn’t touch them, but whenever one of my fingers would come close, my fingernail would glow brightly with the same green color.  I played with them for several minutes.  Later I walked back to where I had seen them, and they were gone.
   On another occasion, while walking, I saw four lights swirling around my feet.  One white, one green, one blue, one red.  They looked like focused flashlight beams, moving rapidly and in an irregular motion about an arm’s length away on the ground around my feet.  My first thought was, “Who is shining all those flashlights?”  Then I noticed that I was completely alone.  As I walked on, the lights soon disappeared.
   On both these two occasions, I didn’t tell others what I saw, so you are honored to be the first to hear these stories!
   So, I guess I received my request.  I saw things is a way that was safe for me, and hopefully also for them.  I am grateful for the experiences.  In the long run, pictures don’t matter.  Memories are precious!

[hounsic]

    My comments are in reply to the questions asked by “Spaced”, but also to anyone else interested.
   I have not watched the movie.
   Since I was very young, I have been interested in ETs.  When I bought a copy of the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book in the 1960s, I was amazed that they basically had nothing to say.  I now realize they knew a lot, but had nothing to say!
   Quite a few years ago, years before I was aware of The Law of One, I signed up for a multi-day excursion with Dr. Greer.  In those days his “tuition” fee seemed reasonable – now it is beyond what I can afford.
   So, my comments are based on personal observations.  I could be wrong.  I could be misled, but I’ll say a wee bit about what I saw over a number of nights, very late at night when it was very dark, with a small group in a location far from anything else.  Mostly we sat in lawn chairs in a circle, so someone would be looking every direction.  There were likely no other humans within a mile of where we were.
   Since I now have read extensively in the Transcripts, including The Law of One, my interpretations are colored slightly.
   I truly believe Dr. Greer is a positively oriented person.  I believe his work has also been oriented positively.  (His one major flaw, in my opinion, is that he believes all ETs are positive, and negative ETs do not exist.)
   People who have read The Law of One know that many life forms can communicate telepathically.  To simplify, the CE5 protocol is mentally inviting ETs to appear or interact in a manner and form that is safe for both us and them.  (I am convinced that the technique is more effective with a group rather than with a single person, because of the combined intention of a group.)
   Not once during my experiences did I ever have the feeling of fear.  My emotions were more along the line of childish giddy delight.  So, I think that either the entities interacting were positive, or they were clever.  I did not get any feelings of negativeness.
   During the several nights I saw well over a dozen craft.  They varied in distance from the farthest being perhaps 100 meters away to the closest perhaps 30 meters away.  They were a variety of shapes.  My speculation was that a typical object was about the size of a house or smaller, down to the size of a car.  They had a variety of lights, and in some cases the entire craft glowed.  In several situations they hovered motionless for more than a minute.  I do not remember ever hearing any sounds coming from them.
   Based on my later readings of The Law of One, I now think they may have been “thought forms”, but they were not my hallucinations, because they show up on photographs.  (In those days my camera was not modern, and my pictures were typically poor quality.)
   For the following two situations, you need to remember that I had told the ETs that I would appreciate it if they could show themselves to me in a manner that was safe for both me and them.
   I have a physical limitation in that it is very difficult for me to sit at rest in a chair for hours on end.  So, when we were in the group, I occasionally snuck off in the dark and quietly went on a short walk before returning.  Once I saw a pattern of tiny twinkly lights, like pixie dust, in a pattern on the ground, perhaps about two feet around.  There might have been some thirty tiny dots of bright green light.  I knelt down on my knees and tried to touch them, and noticed they seemed to be about two inches below ground level!  But their light passed through the ground as if it wasn’t there.  I couldn’t touch them, but whenever one of my fingers would come close, my fingernail would glow brightly with the same green color.  I played with them for several minutes.  Later I walked back to where I had seen them, and they were gone.
   On another occasion, while walking, I saw four lights swirling around my feet.  One white, one green, one blue, one red.  They looked like focused flashlight beams, moving rapidly and in an irregular motion about an arm’s length away on the ground around my feet.  My first thought was, “Who is shining all those flashlights?”  Then I noticed that I was completely alone.  As I walked on, the lights soon disappeared.
   On both these two occasions, I didn’t tell others what I saw, so you are honored to be the first to hear these stories!
   So, I guess I received my request.  I saw things is a way that was safe for me, and hopefully also for them.  I am grateful for the experiences.  In the long run, pictures don’t matter.  Memories are precious!

Sounds like great experiences! Thanks for sharing those.