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    Thread: Spiritual and Masturbation


    Plenum (Offline)

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    #31
    02-02-2017, 03:13 AM
    if you want an alternative take on things, Mantak Chia is the man.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N75RX66/ref...TF8&btkr=1

    basically, if you can disengage the orgasm response from the (physiological) ejaculation, then all sorts of possibilities open up.
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    #32
    02-02-2017, 03:49 AM
    (02-01-2017, 10:01 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Someone asked about masturbation in a Q'uo channeling. He seemed to be a highly spiritual seeking, imo. Q'uo noted the male body and energy as being one factor. I don't remember the rest.

    Q'uo did talk about sacred sexuality with a partner, and also the solitary dedication of the sexual energy, the orgasm to the infinite creator. I'm not sure how this works, dedicating the moment of orgasm to the infinite one. I'll have to try and find the channeling again.
    But if anyone knows more on this please, share it!

    I'm pretty sure I found the Q'uo transcript you're talking about.  As with most Q'uo talks, she goes on at some length, but here's the most pertinent paragraph:

    Quote:However, it is equally true that sex itself may be used, whether in masturbation or sexual congress with another, to express positive polarity and the worship of the one infinite Creator. The mind is preeminent in this matter. Depending upon how a seeker feels about his sexuality, he may find it more skillful to work with refraining from sexual expression in terms of how he personally is impacted by the experience of reserving his sexual energy for winding of the magical coil. Or, depending upon the entity and his personality and the way he feels about his body, he may find that it is more helpful to create a spiritually-dedicated masturbation in which the object is to experience that orgasm which is the steady state of the one infinite Creator, that inexpressible and inutterable intensity of unconditional love that is the ecstasy at the heart of the experience of orgasm.

    More or less -as I take it- sexual energies can be put to use in a variety of positive (as well as negative) ways, and which way is "best" is solely a personal matter.

    Personally (and I'll try to avoid TMI here Wink) I find that a spiritual orgasm more or less involves "winding the coil" very rapidly\intensely, and then releasing that energy in an explosion of positivity.  When I achieve this, I find myself laughing joyously in the moment, and often for a few minutes afterwards.  There's so much positive energy built up that it has to be released through multiple outlets, so to speak.  I have also come to believe, via consultation with my guides, that such activity acts as a form of energy transformation - taking in "lower" red\orange\yellow energies and transmuting them into green\blue\indigo through the infusion of the energies of Intelligent Infinity and Universal Love.

    But achieving this requires the existing ability to open oneself to higher energies while engaged in a sexual act, which is something that takes considerable practice as well as mental discipline.  As Plenum noted, much of it involves understanding/experiencing orgasm and ejaculation as two separate processes.  Orgasm is the joyous release of Love energies in harmony with the joyous unity of Creation, whereas ejaculation is more simply the physiological result of sufficient fluid buildup.  In such attempts, the former, rather than the latter, should be the focus and the goal.

    And if this all sounds like I'm suggesting that someone attempting to follow this path should be seeking to make love with the universe, that is exactly what I'm suggesting - and that it is making Love in a most literal sense.
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    #33
    02-04-2017, 02:58 PM
    Wow, when I was searching for "masturbation", then "be an anthro" came up.

    I have a strong urge to masturbate now, but I can't. I don't want to open my field to negative entities possessing me.

    Man, I want to be an anthro so bad. That maybe I'll have the rest of eternity to be one. At least in 5D.
    I think in 4D we are still somewhat human.

    If I have to wait a million years or several million years to be one, it's going to hurt.

    But it must be hard to masturbate with paws for hands. Unless you have anthro hands too that are somewhat like humans.

    I don't know but masturbation only provides about 2-5 minutes of pleasure, and then it's back to normal.

    Most of my life isn't that interesting.

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    #34
    02-05-2017, 10:20 PM
    5.2 Questioner: We have decided to accept, if offered, the honor/duty of learning/teaching the healing process. I would ask as to the first step which we should accomplish in becoming effective healers.
    Ra: I am Ra. We shall begin with the first of the three teachings/learnings.

    We begin with the mental learn/teachings necessary for contact with intelligent infinity. The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain silence of self at a steady state when required by the self. The mind must be opened like a door. The key is silence.

    Within the door lies an hierarchical construction you may liken unto geography and in some ways geometry, for the hierarchy is quite regular, bearing inner relationships.

    To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.

    The second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your consciousness. It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness to pick and choose among attributes, thus building the roles that cause blockages and confusions in the already-distorted mind complex. Each acceptance smoothes part of the many distortions that the faculty you call judgment engenders.

    The third discipline of the mind is a repetition of the first but with the gaze outward towards the fellow entities that it meets. In each entity there exists completeness. Thus, the ability to understand each balance is necessary. When you view patience, you are responsible for mirroring in your mental understanding, patience/impatience. When you view impatience, it is necessary for your mental configuration of understanding to be impatience/patience. We use this as a simple example. Most configurations of mind have many facets, and understanding of either self polarities, or what you would call other-self polarities, can and must be understood as subtle work.

    The next step is the acceptance of the other-self polarities, which mirrors the second step.

    These are the first four steps of learning mental discipline. The fifth step involves observing the geographical and geometrical relationships and ratios of the mind, the other mind, the mass mind, and the infinite mind.

    The second area of learn/teaching is the study/understanding of the body complexes. It is necessary to know your body well. This is a matter of using the mind to examine how the feelings, the biases, what you would call the emotions, affect various portions of the body complex. It shall be necessary to both understand the bodily polarities and to accept them, repeating in a chemical/physical manifestation the work you have done upon the mind bethinking the consciousness.

    The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may then be accomplished.

    It is then the task to extend this understanding to the bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet. The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male is female; each biological female is male. This is a simple example. However, in almost every case wherein you are attempting the understanding of the body of self or other-self, you will again find that the most subtle discernment is necessary in order to fully grasp the polarity complexes involved.

    At this time we would suggest closing the description until the next time of work so that we may devote time to the third area commensurate with its importance.

    We can answer a query if it is a short one before we leave this instrument.

    Category: Healing
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    #35
    02-06-2017, 09:30 AM
    "Know Thyself."

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    04-10-2020, 04:39 PM (This post was last modified: 04-10-2020, 04:52 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I've reached a point now where I can't ejaculate or do the traditional orgasm.

    My energy flow is strong enough that it keeps pressure on the sexual chakra.

    So it's like a continuous, smooth mild orgasm. The chakra can't pulsate
    to orgasm because of the pressure.

    Last 3 masturbation attempts right at the moment before orgasm would occur, the energy
    is automatically diverted back into the channel and does not push the chakra to peak.

    So I'm in a continuous, low-level smooth, continuous orgasm at about 3/10 strength (where 10 would be a normal orgasm for a guy).
    Though it goes as high as 5/10, and seems to keep steadily increasing. It is also expansive rather than the constricting nature of a typical orgasm.
    Coupled with the bliss in crown and heart, it's like a sort of orgasmic bliss.

    I think it's our natural state when we remove much of our resistance. It's the steady state of Creator.

    I don't know if it will stay like this, but I have since lost interest in masturbation
    simply because I can't ejaculate. And it feels like a 5/10 a lot, so I don't really want to make it a 10.

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