Astral Projection Development Thread

[anagogy]

I've decided to make a thread for those interested in developing the ability to astral project. I am also trying to develop control of this ability. I have not mastered it yet. Though I have had some experiences with it. This thread is for people to share experiences with it, tips, techniques for getting better at it, and sharing theories for understanding it better, as well as practical applications for it.

There is no pressure or time frame for practice implied. I feel very strongly encouraged to make a thread about this (i feel my guides are nudging me). I have a feeling this is the next step for us to shift the consciousness towards the transition to fourth density. We, as a community, need to learn to poke holes in the veil. This will be instrumental in grasping the needle, and pointing the compass of spirituality in a broader direction.

My most recent experience was two nights ago. I became conscious during the night that my body was asleep. My consciousness was separated from it, for the most part, but I was still trapped inside. I did a lot of spinning inside my body. It is somewhat comical now picturing back on how it would have looked to an astral observer, seeing me face downwards while my body was facing upwards. I may have succeeded in getting out, and in fact, have vague memories of being outside of my body as well that night, but due to my tiredness I did not make the (important) focus of cementing the astral memories in my physical vehicle as I came out of the sleep state (the memories can fade very quickly, just as dream memories can if you aren't careful).

Some tips to get started that I've found useful:

1) Practice early morning, after you've had a couple hours of sleep rather than at night when you are too tired to stay focused.

2) Set a firm intent to become conscious while your body is asleep. It is all about the "mind awake/body asleep".

3) When you practice, do the exercises in a ritualistic fashion. Like, as in, just to see what happens next. If you become too excited in the process, you will never approach the deeper levels of consciousness required to actually phase out of your body.

Leaving your body is like deflating a balloon to the point where the balloon can fit through a small hole. Once outside the hole, you can then "re-inflate" the balloon of conscious awareness and be very conscious indeed.

[Conifer16]

I actually got a very strong urge to look up this subject to try and figure out how to do it recently. So this thread I would classify as a synchronicity.

[Unbound]

From the Emerald Tablet of Thoth the Atlantean, I have always felt this part of the passage pertains to astral travel, especially the part about vibrating your being to free your soul from your body.

"Deep in the silence,
first ye must linger until at last ye
are free from desire,
free from the longing to speak in the silence.

Conquer by silence, the bondage of words.
Abstaining from eating until we have conquered
desire for food, that is bondage of soul.

Then lie ye down in the darkness.
Close ye your eyes from the rays of the Light.
Centre thy soul-force in the place of thine consciousness,
shaking it free from the bonds of the night.

Place in thy mind-place the image thou desireth.
Picture the place thou desireth to see.
Vibrate back and forth with thy power.
Loosen the soul from out of its night.
Fiercely must thou shake with all of thy power
until at last thy soul shall be free."

[Matt1]

Early morning 4 - 5 Am

Sleep Paralysis

OBE Technique (won't be needed after a while)

Astral experience

[AnthroHeart]

The astral critters always keep me from successfully astral projecting, through fear. I once saw a growling wolf in my room when I was going OBE.

I was trying to astral project to get the winning lottery numbers. I guess I had some bad karma there.

[anagogy]

Sometimes those particular astral critters are projections from your own mind, rather than actual astral critters. Sometimes, they are actual lower astral critters that smell fear like a shark smells blood from miles away. All the same, though, they can't hurt you, and when you realize that, you will have removed one of the blocks you have to conscious astral projection. And once you stop giving out the food these beings come to eat (the fear energy), they won't show up in the first place.

I had a lucid dream this morning, which was brief, but I became conscious, and found myself in the house I grew up in. I was trying to stabilize my consciousness but then felt inordinately heavy and dropped to the ground, the environment faded to black, and I woke up in bed.

What is the relationship between dreams, lucid dreams, and astral projection?

My experience is that dreams take place more "inner" than an out of body projection does. A normal out of body projection is close to the physical plane, whereas dreams take place higher up in the subtle planes (usually not very much higher up from the physical, normally just barely out of phase with red ray physical). The more conscious you become within the experience, the higher in the subtle planes you may will yourself to go. You ordinarily won't unconsciously dream in the higher levels, though, it does sometimes occur.

[AnthroHeart]

I don't know the relationship, but I had a dream character tell me I was dreaming, and I didn't believe him.

[Horuseus]

Decided to get into this again after this thread. Due to my current schedule I'm going to sleep around 3-4 which I'm finding is a a good time to practise. The body and mind is tired and so is likely to go into the state of initial 'paralysis' easier.

Hit bed pretty late last night (4:30am) and was able to relax quickly. Sensations of the Body reduced until I could barely feel them. Normally I knock off after this however I managed to stay fairly alert. This time I got further than I had in my previous attempts as around 20-30 minutes in my Heart starting beating rapidly. Seriously, it feels as though it was about to explode however from what I understand this is a common pre-OBE sensation and is indicative of the Heart Chakra projecting energy into the Astral Body to detach.

The rapid thumping soon went away though I didn't manage to project this time. I was waiting for the sudden vibrations I normally would get however this time around they did not appear; seems I was too alert and kept eyes open whereas I should have kept them close. The interesting thing was I had a really curious sensation on the left side of my crown, as if energy was being poured right down through from there. Haven't felt anything like it nor in my meditation sessions. Also felt tingling sensation in my hands. I kept thinking that perhaps I'm already out of phase and that I should 'try' moving though I didn't this time around.

Will try again tonight!

[anagogy]

Had some more astral experiences last night.

These experiences occurred in the middle of the night, after sleeping for a couple hours. I became conscious that my body was asleep at some point. I don't recall the specific instance of departing my sleeping physical form.

Unfortunately, I was extremely tired, and when I came back to my body, I was too lazy to get up and write down my experiences. In other-words, I went back to sleep. As a result, my memories are extremely fuzzy. I do recall some mental notes I made during the experience, however. I recall some frustration that I wasn't seeing in the traditional sense of the word. It was more of the "mind sensing" astral sight, where you don't see things in color, visually, rather, you perceive objects around your body with the whole focus of consciousness without seeing any object in particular. I also recall floating up through the ceiling of my house, and being intrigued at feeling the different layers of the ceiling as they passed through my astral body. Aside from those two events, everything else is a complete haze.

I really need to work on my recall.

I seem to have far more success with astral projection approaching the experience from sleep, rather than inducing it from a fully awake state of consciousness. This probably has something to do with my difficulty in deliberately falling asleep.

Insomnia is the bane of my existence.

[Plenum]

Insomnia is the bane of my existence.

do you have any particular understanding of what this distortion means?

[Horuseus]

I seem to have far more success with astral projection approaching the experience from sleep, rather than inducing it from a fully awake state of consciousness. This probably has something to do with my difficulty in deliberately falling asleep.

Insomnia is the bane of my existence.

Have you tried setting an alarm off a couple hours after sleeping? Certainly great progress though. Practising dram recall helps in developing 'dream memory'. You need to make a conscious intention to open your astral sight if it does not automatically appear. Alternatively practising in the day time will be of benefit as you can 'see' clearly easier.

I'm finding this resource to be useful:

http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/content...projection

[mummy911]

I was reaserching this matter and wondered upon this site and this thread. I know a few things about this matter. I have been astral projecting since I was a child. One day as a teen I was looking at this set of books my olderolder brother had that talked about a range of things. I was researching palm reading in one of them when I stumbled upon astral projection. As I read about what it was I realized I had been doing it for a long time unknowingly. After that I tried to purposely Not go into this state because I was afraid.

Fast forward to when I was about 24, married to a Marine. I met this woman who was the wife of another Marine whom I became close friends with. One day I was telling her about this weird dream I kept having where it seemed as tho I was awake but I wasn't and she goes duh astral projection? I'm like know I mean I think I used to when I was little but... I had tried so hard not to that I even forgot what it was.

She began to tell me how to practice and control it. So I started tried to late at night when the house was quiet. I could never do it purposely. However , it started just happening more and more when I wasn't trying. One night while asleep on the couch in her house I unknowingly left my body. I walked over to the kitchen and was about to cook breakfast. I tried to turn on the lightlight and thought it must have blown. I went to the stairs to tell my friend the light doesn't work. I looked up and she was standing at the top. I said hey I think your kitchen light is out. She didn't say anything. She just had a weird grin on her face. I called her name and chuckled a little. I'm like girl quit playing. She sat down and begin to slowly slide down the stair. I started to meet her halfway. Then I saw her face and her eyes were completely black! I started saying every prayer I could think of. I ended up seeing myself sleep on the couch and closed my eyes and woke up. Every since I have been terrified to keep trying. So if happens I come right back through prayer and closing my eyes.

Fastfoward to today. I have 4children. This is about 8 years later. Now my friend was divorced a few years back. And moved back to her home state. We ended up moving to the same state only an hour away 2years later. She now dates a family member of mine and visits often. This morning my 7 year old comes in to tell us she had a dream that she was awake in her room an saw a wolf. She ran to cuddle up with her sister and saw herself already laying there. She says she ran to our room and as the wolf tried to get her she closed her eyes and woke up. My friend goes....she is you.....lol.

I howeverhowever am thinking oh crap. What do I say or do?

[Bluebell]

i'm abstaining from astral travel but i think once u learn it, it's easy. i don't know because i won't try again after my experience but imo it's all about learning to be aware of ur dream body, aware during falling asleep etc. learning vibration, becoming very acquainted w going in & out of sleep, w drifting in the twilight zone. but i haven't tried because i don't feel ready. but i know i could now.

[Jade]

Mummy, I think for you and your daughter (who it appears astral projection just comes naturally to), you should focus more on protection. Surround yourself in white light whenever you can, especially if you are thinking about or anticipating any leaving of the body. Also, just remember the big bad wolf can't really get you if you're not really in your body.

[anagogy]

I howeverhowever am thinking oh crap. What do I say or do?

Don't worry about it. It is no more dangerous than dreaming. And in fact, dreaming is unconscious astral travel. You leave your body every night.

The only circumstance where astral projection becomes remotely dangerous is for those beings who consciously leave their body with the specific intention to serve others in some powerful fashion. That is generally the only circumstance where strongly negatively polarized beings actually take notice or care.

[third-density-being]

First of all Thank You Anagogy for starting this thread. I am very interested in out-of-body experience and it's very valuable for me to read about experience of Other-Selves in that field.

So far I had no success in this, but I'm reading a lot about that (so Thank You Horuseus for the link )

At this point - as I do not have much experience of my own to share, I would like to quote three exercies proposed by Seth - I've found them in book titled: "Compilation of Exercises - Seth and Jane Roberts" which I've enclosed to my post here:
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...#pid162131
- You can download it if You want.

Below I'm quoting all three exercises:

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From The Early Sessions, Book 1

Astral Projection, Technique 1

These are my instructions. You may consider this your first lesson. We will go by easy stages, for
we do not want you betwixt and between. You may induce a medium trance in whatever way you
choose. On occasion this will be spontaneous, as you know. For best results in the beginning it is
good to make a projection attempt when you already feel physically drowsy, but pleasantly so.
When you have induced the trance state, then begin to examine your own subjective feelings until
you find recognition of the inner self.

This involves a recognition of yourself as distinct from the fleshy fibers in which you reside. Then
begin to imagine this inner self rising upward. You should experience even at this point an
internal sense of motion. This motion may be from side to side, as you gently shake yourself
loose, so to speak.

It may be a rushing upward. Whichever motion you experience there will be a moment where you
feel yourself, your identity and consciousness, definitely withdrawing from the physical organism.
Before you attempt the projection, however, the suggestion should be given that the physical
organism will be well protected and comfortable. Now when you feel the consciousness
withdrawing, there are two things you may do. I suggest the first step I shall give you in
preference to the second. The first step is this. Forget the physical body, or what you are to do
with it. Will yourself out in a quick motion. There is no need to experience the voice hallucinations
mentioned by the author, Fox. If the projection is a success you’ll instantly lose contact
consciously with the physical body. You simply will not be in it.

Now your consciousness will not be in it, but it is hardly lifeless. Its maintenance is being
controlled by the consciousness of the individual cells and organs of which we have spoken. I will
give you alternate methods of projecting, but I will be concerned now with what you can expect
the few moments after you have left the physical body.

Session 265, Page 210

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Astral Projection, Technique 2

Your waking consciousness only participates in projections as a rule when you are in a period of
high vitality, and exceptional health.

On occasion the waking consciousness does participate during other usually very depressed
periods. But generally speaking high energy is needed in order to maintain overall stability, and in
order that the ego is not overstrained. Such conscious projections are automatically spaced out.
In this way there is little danger that problems will arise.

It is the same with the conscious retention of dreams in general. You are indeed exercising what
amounts to an added ability. You are learning to manipulate within other dimensions of
consciousness. Automatic controls are therefore used. You proceed as your abilities and control
develop.

Suggestion given before sleep will greatly add to your chances of conscious projections from the
dream state. It is not necessary, basically speaking, that you notice some small incongruous
detail in order to realize while dreaming that you are dreaming. There is however one good
method to use. The suggestion 'I will realize while dreaming that I am dreaming' can also be
used, as another method, or both of these may be utilized together.

At your stage it is of course easier if the actual separation of consciousness from the physical
body occurs without your awareness. However the experience itself is excellent training. I have
told you that these projections may carry you to different systems. In the beginning you are safer
perhaps in those projections that involve your own reality.

There is not any great matter of danger, only that you could fall into blunders. The north-south
position is most beneficial. It might be of benefit if you concentrate before sleep upon a simple
projection that involves leaving the body, walking out into this room, for example, (the living room)
or perhaps strolling around the block.

When falling off to sleep for example, imagine that you are in your yard, in another room of your
apartment, or in front of the house. When this method is effective you will not be consciously
aware of the actual separation however. I do not suggest at this point that you or Ruburt attempt
to contact me during any projection. Later, when you have more training.

If by chance you blunder (smile, eyes open) into my territory, then I will know it, and seek you out.
Whenever you find yourself in any potentially dangerous dream situation during a projection,
immediately terminate the dream. You will then return to an ordinary state of consciousness.
Now. Mr. Fox is quite correct. When you know you are in a projection do not be tempted to
tamper. There are forces that you do not yet understand. You will find that these projections
become more vivid. I must repeat that these are quite valid. They are not hallucinations.

Conscious projections do not occur with any frequency as far as a large percentage of humanity
is concerned. Note that I speak only now of projections in which you are self-consciously aware.
The reasons are somewhat obvious. Conscious projections are dependent upon abilities and
control. Also this ability and control presupposes a fairly disciplined personality. Otherwise we
would have explosive outbursts of suddenly released aggressions in systems where they do not
belong.

It is quite possible to meet survival personalities, incidentally, during such projections. This does
not happen often, because so many other issues are necessary. It is also possible of course to
move into your own future. - This occurs regularly, though not always with awareness. Projections
into the past are also frequent.

Because of some matters we have not yet discussed, at any rate deeply, it is possible to meet
your own projection. You are accountable for acts committed during projections, of course, and
these alter the personality as any acts do. If you have your wits about you, you can gain
information concerning the future by studying your projection environment, if for any reason you
suppose it to be ahead of you in time.

Some of this is extremely complicated. You may for example request before sleep that you
project into your own future, to see what occurs there. This is legitimate enough, if you are willing
to accept the results of your projections. For what you see will influence what you do in the
present. You will be projecting of course into the probable future as it exists for you at this point.
The very act of projecting will alter these probabilities. I am not saying that this future environment
is not real, however. It is as real as your present.

Session 277, Page 305

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Astral Projection, Technique 3

...he did so, and I highly recommend this method to you both. When you awaken, or seem to in
the middle of the night, try simply to get out of the physical body. Simply try to get out of bed, you
see, and to walk into another room white the physical body stays where it is.

If you keep this in mind, generally speaking, then you will find yourself able to do so within a brief
time. It is a pleasant and easy way to achieve a projection, and with some experience you will
discover that you can maintain good control, walk out of your apartment, and outside. You may
then attempt normal locomotion, or levitation.

There is little strain with this method, and it has benefits from several viewpoints. Simply keep the
method in mind so that you are alert to the initial favorable circumstances. You may be half
awake. You may be in a false awakening. The method will work in either case. It offers good
possibilities in another direction: you can, if you want to do so, look back at your own body.
You must want to do this however. Often you do not want to see the body by itself, so to speak,
and so you choose methods that make this more difficult. Just this one exercise will sharpen your
control greatly. It is an ABC you see.

The experience will be must less startling to the ego than an abrupt projection, and the ordinary
nature of the activities, walking into the next room for example, Will be reassuring. You are more
calm, and in your own surroundings. Of course Ruburt was out of his body when he saw Miss
Callahan, who was in the same condition.

Session 298, Page 143

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If I will gain any experience in this field, You can be sure I'll Share it with all of You in this thread


Take Care

[Cyclops]

I had an out of body experience a couple of years ago when I was still a teen. it did not go particularly well, it did however leave me with an increased belief in the Law of One. Its still posted on these forums actually. When it occurred I spoke to people about it here.

Anyway, I would like to offer a friendly caution. I ask forgiveness if my post makes anyone feel any fear and doubt, but I feel it is important.


Q'uo Special Meditation, September 22, 2009

J: The next one is, “Could you give me advice on out-of-body experiences and how to have one, and are they safe?”

(Side one of tape ends.)

(Carla channeling)

We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. For each entity, the answer to the question of, “Are out-of-body experiences safe,” is different. Indeed, for one entity in incarnation the answer would be variable. To be conservative, we would respond by saying that the moving out of body is safe only when it is a learned experience and that learning takes place in a group wherein there are senior entities who are experienced at collaboration with those who are traveling out-of-body and who are aware of ways to surround such activities with protection.

It may be said that we are conservative when offering this opinion, for in many cases there is an innocence to moving out of the body. Yet in some cases, that innocence can be rudely interrupted, for it is a crowded universe, my brother, and when one is seeking the light with all of one’s heart and soul and mind and strength, one stands close to the light. And when one stands close to the light because of one’s intention to serve and seek the light, that light causes the entity to cast a shadow that is seen by service-to-self entities who are fond of distracting and even destroying entities who are out of body.

It is as though one were taking a walk in a neighborhood that was high in crime and violence, or in a war zone. Perhaps you should be able to move into the farthest reaches that you wish and come home to your body without incident. However, it is also possible that you might be set upon and then you should find it difficult to move back into your physical body. Consequently, we would suggest that you pursue this interest by contacting a trusted source of knowledge and experience, such as the Monroe Institute. [4] We take this information from this instrument’s memory.[/b]

Again, we feel that such interests should be pursued with that organic feeling of resonance. If this is an activity that is resonant for you then we encourage you to follow it, but not by yourself.

Ra The Law of One, Book III, Session 69 August 29, 1981

Ra: I am Ra. Given that the entity is not attempting to be of service in this particular way which is proceeding now, the entities of negative orientation would not find it possible to remove the mind/body/spirit. The unique characteristic, as we have said, which is, shall we say, dangerous is the willing of the mind/body/spirit complex outward from the physical complex of third-density for the purpose of service-to-others. In any other situation this circumstance would not be in effect.

Q'uo Sunday Meditation February 7, 1988

A note about the practice of moving out of the body at will. Most entities which do so are not highly polarized, and are therefore not in particular danger by confrontation with those entities which do not like the light when it is used for compassion, and wish instead to use that light in a controlling and service-to-self manner.

Q'uo Sunday Meditation October 4, 1992

We do not encourage entities to move out of the body without there being a spiritual goal involved, for as many have said before us, it is a crowded universe and many of the citizens of it are particularly interested in those whose life force of spirit and will dims before the life force of the physical vehicle.

Even though you see in my post and the warnings in the quotes, what I didn't quote was the other side to it, the potentials for learning, the positives etc. The transcripts have quite a bit to say about out of body experiences past the advisory notices. It can be done safely as far as the writings show with proper preparation and research and can be a wonderful thing.

[Nuria Luz]

I also think that precaution is a very good advice. I've had a couple of nasty experiences while out of the body and attempting the exit. I havn't tried it for a few years now. I'm more focused in meditation and energy healing. I feel I do not really need it to evolve. But hey, every person is a world in him-herself and I must admit it is so interesting and tempting...

love to all!

[ricdaw]

What do I say or do?

Read "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce and (in order) the three books by Robert Monroe (Journeys out of the Body). These will help you with the fear and give you something concrete to talk to your daughter about, if you choose to.

[third-density-being]

Q'uo Special Meditation, September 22, 2009

(...) and even destroying entities who are out of body.

With all due Respect to All involved, but I simply cannot accept this.
"Astral Projections" are undergone in a vessel/body that carries Consciousness which is an attribute of a Soul - literally. Therefore everything, at its basis, is in fact a Soul - even Our physical bodies at this very moment are a manifestations of a Soul - Thus We Are Soul.

Hence this statement contradicts everything that I've learned from Ra's as well as from Seth's Words.

[Cyclops]

I don't mean to scare anyone, but that's probably the feeling some will surely get reading my posts here. I am truly sorry. It is cautioned for a reason in my opinion.

Ra The Law of One, Book III, Session 69 August 29, 1981

Ra: I am Ra. This is a misperceived concept. The mind/body/spirit complex which freely leaves the third-density physical complex is vulnerable when the appropriate protection is not at hand. You may perceive carefully that very few entities which choose to leave their physical complexes are doing work of such a nature as to attract the polarized attention of negatively oriented entities.

Now, like I mentioned before it is said in the transcripts also (which I have left out) that such activities are fully possible, are done and have been done before for service, for exploration, for learning. I believe it was only suggested that one approach this with respect, research, a group environment for the beginner.

[third-density-being]

I don't mean to scare anyone, (...)

I understand that, and I wasn't referring to "feelings" that brought by You quote might induce.

I was referring to the integrity of The Law of One Teachings/Learnings.

Ra The Law of One, Book III, Session 69 August 29, 1981

Ra: I am Ra. This is a misperceived concept. The mind/body/spirit complex which freely leaves the third-density physical complex is vulnerable when the appropriate protection is not at hand. (...)

By "vulnerable", as I understood it, Ra meant that via deception, an Entity* that left His/Her physical vehicle, may be lead to Service-to-Self/Negative time/space - in that case, third-density existence might be ended (physical death) - but an Entity* It-Self would never be destroyed. And to that alone I was referring in my comment.

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* In my comment - Entity = Mind/Body/Spirit Complex = Soul

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[Bluebell]

I don't mean to scare anyone, but that's probably the feeling some will surely get reading my posts here. I am truly sorry. It is cautioned for a reason in my opinion.

Ra The Law of One, Book III, Session 69 August 29, 1981

Ra: I am Ra. This is a misperceived concept. The mind/body/spirit complex which freely leaves the third-density physical complex is vulnerable when the appropriate protection is not at hand. You may perceive carefully that very few entities which choose to leave their physical complexes are doing work of such a nature as to attract the polarized attention of negatively oriented entities.

Now, like I mentioned before it is said in the transcripts also (which I have left out) that such activities are fully possible, are done and have been done before for service, for exploration, for learning. I believe it was only suggested that one approach this with respect, research, a group environment for the beginner.

this is why i don't travel intentionally. it's always a risk, big or small.

[anagogy]

From my perspective, everything worthwhile has risks associated with it.

If I were fascinated with marine biology, I wouldn't let my fear of drowning stop me from exploring the curiosities I was passionate about.

Each to their own.

Personally, I find the subtle planes absolutely fascinating, and revel in the astral experiences I have.

[Bluebell]

Drowning isn't that bad. =P