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11-08-2012, 11:53 PM
It's a common enough issue with cloudflare that they have a FAQ about it:
https://support.cloudflare.com/entries/2...navailable I guess it's happened to Icke's site before: http://www.google.com/search?q=icke+clou...is+offline Quote:www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1061129335
11-09-2012, 07:38 AM
David Icke. Lol.
01-10-2013, 09:07 AM
I'm going on David Icke's site right now because of this post!
01-10-2013, 10:11 AM
In my thinking we see in these 'prophets' weaknesses which are no different than what all of us would manifest in our efforts to comprehend our spiritual existence.
These people, regardless of the fact that the information which they provided has not been affirmed by a specific date in time, and regardless of their greed in trying to benefit from their offerings, should still be given the benefit of the doubt with regard to whether or not they really believed what they professed. Falling victim to self satisfaction in the process of their belief structuring, is a matter to which countless others also succumb. Do any of us suppose that we would be so able to avoid the same that we can now mock them? Did those who believed them not also fall victim to their own beliefs? There may come some evidence to reveal that some of these actually did not believe what they taught, and then they would be open to ridicule and condemnation. But in lieu of that evidence, I think we should be cautious about directing our frustration and anger in any direction other than selfward. In fact, if we really think about their experience, it seems that Icke and Wilcock, in the pursuit of their beliefs, became more distracted with conspiracies which they believed they uncovered than their actual spiritual discoveries. Whether those conspiracies hold water or not, has not the mass rebellion of the following now become the perfect opportunity for any possible force behind conspiracy to sneak back into hiding? Once again, does our human tendency become our worst enemy if these conspiracies are true? The very fact that religion is able to gather us in mass scale, and that people like Icke and Wilcock gained such a massive following, should point less toward their inaccuracy or greed, and more toward human tendency and vulnerability. And as well, to the great ingrained human desire to seek answers to Mystery. If we can look at that component of the 'sheep following', and compare it to the 'shepherd leading', we can use their efforts, selfish or not, as opportunity to learn more about our state of being as human, and the folly of guides that are not really connected to our own personal walks. Cows will not follow the sheep herder. Sheep do not follow the horse wranglers. Turtles do not walk with the crocodile handlers. Why do humans tend to follow their particular herders? There are two reasons. Self appeasement or cultural affliction. Its either imposed on us, or we feel drawn to it and it pleases us. Either we were born grazing in the grasses of that field, or in our wandering we tasted of a certain grain and settled there to continue with the agreeable flavor. Were any of us born into the grazing field of Icke or Wilcock following? If not, then what does that leave? Self appeasement. Self satisfaction. STS as the Ra material refers to it. I do not offer this as criticism for any of our judgements of these men. They brought such discernment of their followers on themselves by teaching theory and claiming it to be prophecy. But, is this not more the consequence of 'sheep following'? Be sure we bear this in mind as we study the Ra material and find ourselves more often referring to it as 'Ra', and to 'Ra says', then we do as a 'three other evolving beings' existing in a different way of life, but caught within the same Divine Design and Mystery. Regardless of where information comes from, how much it seems to appeal to us, and/or how accurate it may appear, if it is offered as conclusion and absolute truth, rather than speculation, it immediately denies The Mystery. So when we criticize others for their walk, we should remind our own fields that we seek to chase an ongoing Mystery, not follow some claim to solve that Mystery. All who believe to have solved Mystery, fail to evolve at a higher vibration, and drive much slower along the side of the road, applauding their achievement, whilst watching as the other passes quickly by on the freeway. I would speculate that this analogy accurately portrays the human experience as a pit stop on the road to higher being. A small park area where travelers can gather to share their journeys and acquire the groceries they will need to once again engage the freeway. How long each one chooses to remain in the pit stop before they once again take to the center line depends entirely on their interactions here, the influences they meet, and how they let those influences delay them. The real question we should ask ourselves regarding Icke and Wilcock, or any influence, is "Are we being delayed, or not?" How we answer that question will reveal the difference between being human, or a process of higher being.
01-10-2013, 10:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2013, 10:55 AM by AnthroHeart.)
I had spiritual experiences of totally banishing negative energies in myself. Now just waiting for it to manifest in the outside world. Still building inertia.
01-10-2013, 01:20 PM
Funny I was there today browsing the forums. Some very informed folk out there.
David, like me needs to loose a few pounds though. |
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