Do we have to begin from scratch, in 8th density?

[Changa Mane]

8th density is seen as the first density of the second octave, does that mean you have to start from scratch, in another universe?
Do you have to learn everything again do you continue learning, from where you left off of?

I've heard blue avians, be described as 6th-9th density beings, that came from another universe. Does this mean, you develop further, from 7th density?

What are your opinions on this?

[AnthroHeart]

Well, in the previous Octave the polarities were mover and moved.
In this Octave polarities are service to self (non-acceptance) and service to others (acceptance).
There will most likely be polarities/duality in the next Octave that's another jump from this one.

Guardians from the next Octave provide love/light to this Octave in exquisite detail according to Ra.

I think in 8D you become a Universe, and then do whatever you want.

[ada]

My opinion is that even those who gave us this information don't know what is beyond 7th density or when you merge with the whole universe. In a way, we have been doing this for an infinite amount of time, creating and exploring new universes, creation has no boundaries and anything should be possible, so it needn't be the very same universe with the same patterns as this one, hence a mystery.


Relevant quotes:

28.16 Questioner: Are you saying then there are an infinite number of octaves of densities one through eight?

Ra: I am Ra. We wish to establish that we are truly humble messengers of the Law of One. We can speak to you of our experiences and our understandings and teach/learn in limited ways. However, we cannot speak in firm knowledge of all the creations. We know only that they are infinite. We assume an infinite number of octaves.

However, it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins. Thus we can only say we assume an infinite progression though we understand it to be cyclical in nature and, as we have said, clad in mystery.

81.16  Questioner: Ra states that it has knowledge of only this octave, but it seems that Ra has complete knowledge of this octave.

Can you tell me why this is?

Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we do not have complete knowledge of this octave. There are portions of the seventh density which, although described to us by our teachers, remain mysterious. Secondly, we have experienced a great deal of the available refining catalyst of this octave, and our teachers have worked with us most carefully that we may be one with all, that in turn our eventual returning to the great allness of creation shall be complete.

[unity100]

A new octave is a different existence. Even if one starts from scratch, things will still be new. Just like they were in this current octave.

Everything that was discovered before, of course, will be part of the 'being' of the entities. The normal modus operandi.

[Minyatur]

52.12 ▶ Questioner: Thank you. In mentioning, in the previous session, the harvest, you mentioned the light-bringers from the octave. Am I to understand that those who provide the light for the gradation of graduation are of an octave above the one we experience? Could you tell me more about these light-bringers, who they are, etc.?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working.

This octave density of which we have spoken is both omega and alpha, the spiritual mass of the infinite universes becoming one central sun or Creator once again. Then is born a new universe, a new infinity, a new Logos which incorporates all that the Creator has experienced of Itself. In this new octave there are also those who wander. We know very little across the boundary of octave except that these beings come to aid our octave in its Logos completion.

Is there any brief query which you have at this time?

[Kaaron]

Infinite space
Probably enough room to learn our s*** here n go start our own retarded illusion of free will.
Although ima put a governor on mine...like nah fool C4 is all you need. I ain't about to be watching some more Hiroshima or Maldek s***.
Keep the delusion manageable.
f*** full spectrum free will. You can shoot bullets...but they miss people...everytime.
You can blow s*** up...but only your own s***.
I should be God.
The nigga making the rules is whack.

[Someone from Far Away]

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[Nau7ik]

8th density is seen as the first density of the second octave, does that mean you have to start from scratch, in another universe?
Do you have to learn everything again do you continue learning, from where you left off of?

I've heard blue avians, be described as 6th-9th density beings, that came from another universe. Does this mean, you develop further, from 7th density?

What are your opinions on this?

The heart of Creation beats again. This is an infinite and eternal process of knowing the self that our Lord (and consequently ourselves) are involved in. 8th density is basically the level of the Logos. We return to Source with a full harvest of experience throughout the densities of this particular Creation. This harvest informs the next Creation, it’s build upon the findings and learnings of the previous venture into manifestation. There is only One Being here, the Infinite Creator. Nothing of value is lost, ever.
But there is no exhausting Infinity. This is truly an infinite and eternal process.

So we are sent out again. Time has no meaning at this level. Time is an illusion of manifestation. 8th density represents a new octave of experience. I think it might by dual, in that we reach 8th density and then set out again from that position. Which is then a new octave, therefore 1D of the next octave.

As for the so-called blue avians, I do not subscribe to those ideas. In the model of octaves of densities, there cannot be a “9th density”. Octo means 8. From what I’ve read in the L/L channeling archives, Ra was aware of beings from a subsequent Creation. Why they visit and what purpose I cannot say, but it’s not blue avians. Blue Avians are not Ra nor are they connected to the Law of One: Ra Material.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm not sure if Ra is Sirian. Because I have heard that the Sirians built the great pyramid.
Sirius B is sixth density, a white dwarf star to us.

[Thoth73]

I'm not sure if Ra is Sirian. Because I have heard that the Sirians built the great pyramid.
Sirius B is sixth density, a white dwarf star to us.

Ra said that they were originally from Venus.

[AnthroHeart]

I'm not sure if Ra is Sirian. Because I have heard that the Sirians built the great pyramid.
Sirius B is sixth density, a white dwarf star to us.

Ra said that they were originally from Venus.

Yes, though they may have evolved to Sirius.
I saw a Horus channeling and another video that said that Ra may have migrated to Sirius, the spiritual home of the sun.

[loostudent]

8th density is seen as the first density of the second octave, does that mean you have to start from scratch, in another universe?
Do you have to learn everything again do you continue learning, from where you left off of?

I've heard blue avians, be described as 6th-9th density beings, that came from another universe. Does this mean, you develop further, from 7th density?

What are your opinions on this?

Something is kept something is new. At the end of this octave is a harvest for the next octave.

God does three things: He creates, He preserves, and He dissolves. Death is inevitable. At the time of universal dissolution, everything will be destroyed, nothing will survive. But the Divine Mother will preserve some seeds of creation. She will take them out again at the time of the new creation. It is just like the mistress of the house with her hotchpotch pot. (All laugh.) In it She preserves cucumber seeds, sea-foam and indigo pills in small bags. (Ramakrishna)

[Aion]

Gonna be a big surprise to discover the end is the beginning and you never took any journey at all. It was but a dream.