Death by annihilation

[ada]

26.23 Questioner: Could you please give me an example from, let us say, Hiroshima or Nagasaki of how this is done?

Ra: I am Ra. Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. This we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic Infinite One.

Can a creator be lost entirely?
I lined out the last part because it's irrelevant, when a galaxy is born the first conscious mind/body/spirit complex wouldn't have yet established a confederation.
Meaning that somewhere in the universe right now there are creators being lost due to whatever abnormality. (e.g. asteroid, nuclear, black hole)

[anagogy]

Entirely? No. Not in my opinion.

I believe that all variations of individuality are eventually dissolved into the absolute though, it is just not allowed to happen through weaponry such as this because its robs the creator of the journey of self knowing (through that particular branch). All things are like ice cubes. Eventually they will melt, their time will come. But awareness itself (like the water in the ice cubes), as the eternal ontological primitive, cannot be reduced any further, no matter how many nuclear bombs go off or whatever.

But to the part you lined out, I don't think its irrelevant, because time doesn't apply in those situations, and regardless of whether there was a confederation or not, there is a line or continuum of higher selves between oneself and the creator at every stage of evolution, no matter how far back (even when we were 1st density mineral beings), and it looks out for the ultimate karmic well being of its past selves.

[Plenum]

well, the issue is not necessarily about annihiliation, but more about annulment.

[ada]

Entirely? No. Not in my opinion.

I believe that all variations of individuality are eventually dissolved into the absolute though, it is just not allowed to happen through weaponry such as this because its robs the creator of the journey of self knowing (through that particular branch). All things are like ice cubes. Eventually they will melt, their time will come. But awareness itself (like the water in the ice cubes), as the eternal ontological primitive, cannot be reduced any further, no matter how many nuclear bombs go off or whatever.

But to the part you lined out, I don't think its irrelevant, because time doesn't apply in those situations, and regardless of whether there was a confederation or not, there is a line or continuum of higher selves between oneself and the creator at every stage of evolution, no matter how far back (even when we were 1st density mineral beings), and it looks out for the ultimate karmic well being of its past selves.

What kind of energy/light could remain intact after being diffused by a black hole?

[anagogy]

What kind of energy/light could remain intact after being diffused by a black hole?

Can the dream kill the dreamer?

The contents of the dream (i.e. the black hole) are an illusion so they may only affect other dream components. The base of our consciousness is absolutely and completely nonphysical and cannot be specified by any physics or be affected by anything within the space/time illusion.

If you were to dream that you were torn apart by a black hole, or blown up by a nuclear bomb, only those things that fell within the context of the dream could be "disorganized" or "depatternized" by such a construct of illusion. Admittedly, a lot of what we think is "us" is dreamed up, but the spirit itself, the formless background of awareness upon which the tapestry of the universe is painted, is not a part of the dream. It is completely outside of it.

That part of you cannot be touched by the dream.

[ada]

What kind of energy/light could remain intact after being diffused by a black hole?

Can the dream kill the dreamer?

The contents of the dream (i.e. the black hole) are an illusion so they may only affect other dream components. The base of our consciousness is absolutely and completely nonphysical and cannot be specified by any physics or be affected by anything within the space/time illusion.

If you were to dream that you were torn apart by a black hole, or blown up by a nuclear bomb, only those things that fell within the context of the dream could be "disorganized" or "depatternized" by such a construct of illusion. Admittedly, a lot of what we think is "us" is dreamed up, but the spirit itself, the formless background of awareness upon which the tapestry of the universe is painted, is not a part of the dream. It is completely outside of it.  

That part of you cannot be touched by the dream.

Through your understanding what is the loss to the Creator?

This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator

[anagogy]

Through your understanding what is the loss to the Creator?

The loss to the creator is the loss of the free will exploration of individuation. We are all the creator knowing itself. If the individuation is dissolved due to the trauma of nuclear energy, then that consciousness rejoins the creator, but because it is against free will, the creator does not allow such an infringement to be permanent (hence why sixth density beings perform a kind of "soul reintegration" on such beings or just snatch up their m/b/s complexes before the blast occurs).

However, Ra says repeatedly in the material, "It is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss"  

[ada]

Through your understanding what is the loss to the Creator?

The loss to the creator is the loss of the free will exploration of individuation. We are all the creator knowing itself. If the individuation is dissolved due to the trauma of nuclear energy, then that consciousness rejoins the creator, but because it is against free will, the creator does not allow such an infringement to be permanent (hence why sixth density beings perform a kind of "soul reintegration" on such beings or just snatch up their m/b/s complexes before the blast occurs).

However, Ra says repeatedly in the material, "It is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss"  

You always hold the answers to my complexities, thank you anagogy.

[Dekalb_Blues]

On a related note, this personal anecdotal bit (for whatever it's worth to whomever it may concern): Three years ago, when I underwent the late Dolores Cannon's "Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique" (administered by a sensitive who had been trained by Mrs. Cannon), mere seconds into the process I found myself abruptly and completely unexpectedly "tuning in" to an absolutely realistic experience of living (or "re-living", or perhaps "pre-living" or "also-living", 5-D-relative to the local time we call Year 2013 of the Christian Era; other dispensations call it such things as 5773, or 1434, or even The Year of the Snake) the last half-minute of my life as someone in human-like form on an Earth-like water-planet. This environment was as "real" as the physical room in which I (the Earthling undergoing the Cannonian hypno-process) was in, bodily; in this "other" experience's world there came an amazingly rapidly-moving and totally annihilative atmospheric shock-wave, as would commonly spread out with the concussive energy from, say, the impact-point of a massive asteroid-strike or the planetary application of some other high-energy source. In this little slice-of-life event there were just a few seconds of quickly-crescendoing roaring as air was compressed around me by the shock-front's approach; this immediately grew lethally loud, I'd say 250 dB or so (roughly four times as loud as a full-tilt rock concert, equal to a 747 at engine-destroying overspeed screaming by just over your head). Then-- imagine abruptly putting a mouse in the exhaust of a fighter-jet engine running full-blast. Wow, did I atomize in a split-second! And all this unpleasantness coming out of the clear blue on a perfectly splendid, balmy, utterly normal sunny day, not a hint that things would not go merrily on thus, indefinitely. It was borne in on me, through this edited hyper-strength glimpse, how a Wanderer (in its higher-self aspect, or higher-density quantum-level of being) may use especially elucidative elements from its multi-life repertoire in composing the demanding incarnative design requisite for embodiment in such a fantastically challenging time and place as this planet, now. [Cue Joni Mitchell's Big Yellow Taxi: "Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?..."-- well, Wanderers f***ing well do know, 'cause been-there-done-that-&-got-the-bloody-Tshirt.] At this juncture those here of this kind (i.e., specialists in promoting human durability) are fundamentally, intimately, viscerally aware of and professionally, as it were, comfortable with the ultrapoignant idea of the  vulnerability and inherent proneness to ephemerality of even the most seemingly durable ecological living-systems underwriting the very mortal framework of the Terran sentient species (homo sapiens being but one of them). Needless to say, this viewpoint is not that of the generality of homo sap/mankind, which tends to get a bit... discomfited at such notions.

http://www.dolorescannon.com/about-qhht



Just for the lulz of it, contemplate the magnitude of raw energy represented by the impact of an object the size of the asteroid depicted in the above video -- we're talking here about the unleashing of a force comparable to an explosion on the order of several hundred million -- repeat, several hundred million -- times that of the largest man-made nuclear device ever detonated on this planet, the old U.S.S.R.'s "Tsar Bomba" (a mere 50-megaton piece of work). That's pretty big, big enough to get your attention no matter how engrossed you are in whatever Pokémonish chimera you may be pursuing as you plod zombie-like through the streets, dissociatively risking life and limb as you stare entranced at your hand-held entrancement device. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVn7hBPq07M







https://sites.google.com/site/nmenthswas...equivalent





 

  

  Wanderer's theme song.


"A Cultivated Scholar 

"A brilliant nuclear physicist, with a comprehensive grasp of his field, Dr. Oppenheimer was also a cultivated scholar,
a humanist, a linguist of eight tongues and a brooding searcher for ultimate  spiritual values. And, from the moment
that the test bomb exploded at Alamogordo, N.M. [the Trinity test-firing, 16 July 1945, which project he oversaw as well
as having made crucial R & D contributions to as a nuclear physicist] he was haunted by the implications for man in the
unleashing of the basic forces of the universe.

"As he clung to one of the uprights in the desert control room that July morning and saw the  mushroom clouds rising
in the explosion, a passage from the Bhagavad-Gita, the Hindu sacred epic, flashed through his mind. He related it later as:
'If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One.' And as
the black, then gray, atomic cloud pushed higher above Point Zero, another line-- 'I am become Death, the shatterer of worlds ' --
came to him from the same scripture.

"Two years later, he was still beset by the moral consequences of the bomb, which, he told  fellow physicists, had 'dramatized 
so mercilessly the inhumanity and evil of modern war.'

" 'In some sort of crude sense which no vulgarity, no humor, no overstatements can quite extinguish,' he went on, 'the physicists
have known sin; and this is a knowledge which they cannot lose.' "

[from http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/.../0422.html ]


 

[Ashim]

If you had created something so terrible, so awful and abhorrent as to cause you nightmares, would it not be within the compassion and love of the one infinite creator to be able to exercise the ability to forget these events. Do we have the right to forget? It is not the right of every entity to be able to un-create?

[Plenum]

If you had created something so terrible, so awful and abhorrent as to cause you nightmares, would it not be within the compassion and love of the one infinite creator to be able to exercise the ability to forget these events. Do we have the right to forget? It is  not the right of every entity to be able to un-create?

I think so.  And I think the process is facilitated, in an interactive sense, by the mechanism of balancing.

[Fastidious Emanations]

There is the possibility that the creator wills the absolute destruction of all that is eternally which is really the core inspiration for creation