dual activated question

[AnthroHeart]

I feel like an Indigo, although I am too old (37) to be one. I feel more like a Wanderer, as in Lost.

I'm pretty sure there are Q'uo transcripts within the past decade stating that all births are dual activated at this point. I think, for the most part, those with extreme 'harvest-karma' are not incarnating anymore. Many are still alive and their structures will be for a long time, but I think it'll only be a couple generations before "the new breed" is undeniable.

I agree with you on this one. It will probably take a couple of generations for it to become effective. I remember reading that crystal Aura people incarnated from 2000's on ward.

[Sabou]

I also indentify somewhat as an indigo, but i have read and been told, stephen guy needler actually said as well that you can be born indigo or an indigo is also someone who has become aware of the higher reality and aware of thier higher self etc.. Something to think about

[Jade]

"The veil is thinner for Wanderers" = an entity who is born with their Higher Self closer to the forefront of the consciousness, therefore it's easier to "penetrate the forgetting". I think as soon as anyone penetrates the forgetting the pure nature of expansiveness allows the infinite variety of energies to filter their ways through our instrumentation.

[Bluebell]

37 isn't too old. it's just more rare.

[Ankh]

wanderers actually can't be duals.

As far as I'm aware, Ra never specifically said that wanderers cannot be duals. However, it is true that many wanderers are not duals, especially since they began incarnating prior to the spiral into fourth density space/time.

But as the process of physical evolution gives rise to a race of predominantly dual bodied physical vehicles, you can see the near certain inevitability of any wanderers that do incarnate eventually being required to inhabit a dual body in order to have any beingness on this plane of existence.

My understanding of the Ra material is as Bluebell's, i.e. Wanderers can never be dual-activated.

Ra: As we have said before, Wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex.

Ra: 66.7 ▶ Questioner: What about the ones with the dual, not the Wanderers but the harvested and dual-activated third- and fourth-density bodies entities? Are they able to heal using the techniques that we have discussed?

Ra: I am Ra. In many cases this is so, but as beginners of fourth density, the desire may not be present.

Ra: 65.19 ↥ Questioner: [chuckles] Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvestable did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory?

Ra: I am Ra. The reason is twofold. First, the genetic properties of the connection between the mind/body/spirit complex and the cellular structure of the body is different for third density than for third/fourth density.

Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory. There are always a few exceptions, and we ask your forgiveness for constant barrages of over-generalization.

[Matt1]

wanderers actually can't be duals.

As far as I'm aware, Ra never specifically said that wanderers cannot be duals. However, it is true that many wanderers are not duals, especially since they began incarnating prior to the spiral into fourth density space/time.

But as the process of physical evolution gives rise to a race of predominantly dual bodied physical vehicles, you can see the near certain inevitability of any wanderers that do incarnate eventually being required to inhabit a dual body in order to have any beingness on this plane of existence.

My understanding of the Ra material is as Bluebell's, i.e. Wanderers can never be dual-activated.

Ra: As we have said before, Wanderers become completely the creature of third density in mind/body complex.

Ra: 66.7 ▶ Questioner: What about the ones with the dual, not the Wanderers but the harvested and dual-activated third- and fourth-density bodies entities? Are they able to heal using the techniques that we have discussed?

Ra: I am Ra. In many cases this is so, but as beginners of fourth density, the desire may not be present.

Ra: 65.19 ↥ Questioner: [chuckles] Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvestable did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory?

Ra: I am Ra. The reason is twofold. First, the genetic properties of the connection between the mind/body/spirit complex and the cellular structure of the body is different for third density than for third/fourth density.

Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory. There are always a few exceptions, and we ask your forgiveness for constant barrages of over-generalization.

Makes sense, but i would add the possibility of 4th density wanderers. Who maybe have reached a harvest-able level of being but have a 3rd density planet unsuitable to reach a 4th density environment, thus having to find a suitable 4th density planetary experience on Earth. I could assume that wanderers of 4th , 5th or 6th density should be able to activate the green ray body to do work in the physical that may be seen as paranormal just like dual activated entities but will be limited in accessing higher density bodies such as 5th and 6th.