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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Theory: The "One Infinite Creator" is a veiled statement.

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    AnthroHeart (Offline)

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    #31
    09-28-2013, 12:14 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2013, 12:14 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I believe it was Lucifer who tricked me in to thinking he was God, and had me doing some stupid stuff because I believed the voice in my head. I've read the Hidden Hand material in the past.

    (09-27-2013, 11:06 PM)volicon Wrote: @GeminiWolf,

    I'm curious, and if this is too personal and too invasive, please simply ignore. How were you "burned" by Lucifer?

    Earlier this year I've read something called "The Hidden Hand Material". It's from Lucifer. You may want to take a look at it; it's positively oriented, and have some nice information. I really like the manner in which Hidden_Hand (Lucifer's channel) handled himself in the face of the naysayers. "Believe, or not believe, we are divinely indifferent." That strength of character alone is worth the reading.

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    #32
    09-28-2013, 01:50 PM
    (09-27-2013, 03:28 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So how can the schizophrenic become the mystic? I've had some very profound experiences, but saw them through the lens of fear.

    To be honest Gemini, I think you already know the answer to that question.

    Oftentimes, in the schizophrenic they are very open in the higher centers while being very blocked in the lower centers. This has various reflections in the physical body. So the answer is, you need to ground yourself in the lower centers to give yourself a platform of stability for when the higher centers are open. Otherwise, the higher centers being open just results in madness/delusion.

    We all have access to omniscience as expressions of intelligent energy, but the reliability of that omniscience is in direct proportion to the clarity of your own mind.

    I find it enlightening to try to get to the bottom of my desires. Why do I like the things that I like? Why am I oriented in this particular direction, as opposed to some other direction? Do some serious introspective meditation. Perhaps find the roots of your fascination with Anthros. The roots are where the power is, and where the fear, which is the result of (separation/ignorance/not knowing) dissolves through understanding.

    (09-27-2013, 03:28 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Anagogy, you're one of my favorite posters on b4th. Your posts always seem relevant and enlightening.

    Thankyou GW, I appreciate the sentiment greatly. Smile
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    #33
    09-28-2013, 02:55 PM
    (09-28-2013, 01:50 PM)anagogy Wrote:
    (09-27-2013, 03:28 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: So how can the schizophrenic become the mystic? I've had some very profound experiences, but saw them through the lens of fear.

    To be honest Gemini, I think you already know the answer to that question.

    Yes, I know that. Sometimes hard to put into practice when you can't feel your lower chakras.

    (09-28-2013, 01:50 PM)anagogy Wrote: We all have access to omniscience as expressions of intelligent energy, but the reliability of that omniscience is in direct proportion to the clarity of your own mind.

    Thank you for clearing that up.

    (09-28-2013, 01:50 PM)anagogy Wrote: I find it enlightening to try to get to the bottom of my desires. Why do I like the things that I like? Why am I oriented in this particular direction, as opposed to some other direction? Do some serious introspective meditation. Perhaps find the roots of your fascination with Anthros. The roots are where the power is, and where the fear, which is the result of (separation/ignorance/not knowing) dissolves through understanding.


    Thank you for mentioning anthros. It feels good coming from another person. Yes, the underlying issue could be due to a preferential bias.

    I came into this life to find structure. That was revealed to me in an interim-life hypnotic regression. It was totally my free will choice.
    I like anthros even more than dogs. But the anthro needs to be a specific type of anthro, like a 1/2 wolf 1/2 human. Or 1/2 fox, or the like.

    My fear has been that I might hurt one unintentionally. I feel a bit better now talking about them. Though with meditation I haven't been able to go that deep in order to explore. But meditation does sometimes reveal dreams I have had. When I dream about furries, it always gives me the warm fuzzies when I wake up. Because I see furries/anthros as kind and benevolent creatures. Not quite angels, but close.

    I've found in my life though my main choice has been to choose between God and Ra. I don't know why I don't just put God first. I feel closer to Ra because of their social memory complex. I realize I am Creator, so seeking God isn't as strong a priority as finding out my own nature. I think I resonate with anthros because I have been one in a past life and it was a stellar experience. Then I wanted to try something different in this life. Anthro life is a little tougher in some situations because of fleas, and the fact you can only pee upwards.

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    09-28-2013, 05:41 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2013, 05:41 PM by Parsons.)
    (09-28-2013, 02:55 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've found in my life though my main choice has been to choose between God and Ra. I don't know why I don't just put God first. I feel closer to Ra because of their social memory complex. I realize I am Creator, so seeking God isn't as strong a priority as finding out my own nature. I think I resonate with anthros because I have been one in a past life and it was a stellar experience. Then I wanted to try something different in this life.

    You don't have to choose between them. Ra in contained within what you refer to as God. If you realize you are the Creator, you will know that seeking your own nature is Seeking the Creator.
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    09-28-2013, 05:45 PM (This post was last modified: 09-28-2013, 05:47 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    It's exciting being the creator. Empowering and humbling at the same time. Thank you parsons. You may have also answered my question in the other thread about 4D judgment in your signature.

    (09-28-2013, 05:41 PM)Parsons Wrote: You don't have to choose between them. Ra in contained within what you refer to as God. If you realize you are the Creator, you will know that seeking your own nature is Seeking the Creator.
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    #36
    10-04-2013, 07:52 PM
    The term 'One' in this context has been bastardized within various new age circles. The statement is self explanatory with each term implying/supporting/providing foundation for the other. Quite simply, there are no 'boundaries' to Infinity as the Infinite encompasses/gives rise to all (lest it be considered finite), and so there can only be 'One' in sense that there is no other possibility. It is not a numerical identifier as such but rather describing a self emergent property of Infinity. The term 'Oneness' on the other hand tends to pertain to a certain transcendent all encompassing 'state' which can be attained through acceptance and surrendering to the true nature of the Self, though it's actual identifier is much different when taking into account the fractal nature 'consciousness' takes in it's expression.

    'The creator' is simultaneously the created. There is no singular entity that is aware of all as that is inherently not possible (You cannot be fully aware of that which has no bounds), but rather graduations of knowing and awareness which will continue to expand infinitely. All concepts, ideas, and spectrum of experience are both simultaneously within the 'Infinite' and the result of Infinity exploring all potentials. Even the concept of 'awareness' is within Infinity and only one branch of exploration. It is however seen as 'primary' as the root genesis of 'creation' due to intelligent focussing of Infinity allows a greater number of potential of probabilities to be explored, unlike other areas of existence which are unconscious, random and do not contain 'awareness' directing experience as we define it.
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    #37
    10-04-2013, 08:10 PM
    Horuseus, so is there a "Creator" being that has the awareness of every being in the Universe (and beyond)?

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    10-05-2013, 10:02 AM (This post was last modified: 10-05-2013, 10:04 AM by Horuseus.)
    (10-04-2013, 08:10 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Horuseus, so is there a "Creator" being that has the awareness of every being in the Universe (and beyond)?

    Well, 'It' (The Absolute/Origin) is only aware of a very small portion of itself, if we are to quantify it any way, so the answer to your question would be no. There is always 'more' - this is a gift.

    A very simple way of looking at is that Infinity can inherently have no bounds, so how can you have total sum awareness of that which can never be grasped in it's entirety?

    Now, if you're asking about 'this' Universe, than sure, you could say that.

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    10-05-2013, 01:36 PM
    (09-27-2013, 03:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Pantheism is much closer to my belief of Creator being the Creation.

    Consider the idea of panentheism, which is close, but takes God farther outside of the creation as well. I think a good way of wording it would be pantheism is the belief that God and creation are one. Panentheism is the believe that God is all creation and then some (say, infinity).

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    10-05-2013, 02:00 PM (This post was last modified: 10-05-2013, 04:21 PM by jivatman.)
    Consider the number 108. God is paradoxically described as One thing, Nothing, and Everything (or infinity).

    In regards to Nothing:

    Quote:6.7 Questioner: How were you able to make the transition from Venus, and I assume the sixth dimension, which— would that be invisible when you reached here? Did you have to change your dimensions to walk on the Earth?

    Ra: You will remember the exercise of the wind. The dissolution into nothingness is the dissolution into unity, for there is no nothingness. From the sixth dimension, we are capable of manipulating, by thought, the intelligent infinity present in each particle of light or distorted light so that we were able to clothe ourselves in a replica visible in the third density of our mind/body/spirit complexes in the sixth density. We were allowed this experiment by the Council which guards this planet.

    Quote:13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the earliest, first known thing in the creation?

    In regards to Everything:

    Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.

    The Unity of the absolutely transcendent God is the First thing, the last thing, the only thing. The Creator is One.

    This Being discerned another concept: Non-Being, or Nothing. It is 0

    Finally, from the potential, or multiplication between Being with Non-being there arose a third concept, It is Infinity, or Creatio Ex Nihilo, The Infinite Creation, from Nothing.

    The Monotheist works with Unity, the Shramanas (Buddhism, Jainism) work with Emptiness, and the Pantheist works with Infinity. So, consider each concept separately, but also meditate on the Non-Duality between: The Being and Non-Being, Nothing and Everything, or The Creator and The Creation.

    At the same time, God is supreme. I concur with Kainous that Panentheism is the best of the orthodox philosophical terms.

    I just looked up at the Clock: 108

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    10-05-2013, 02:54 PM (This post was last modified: 10-05-2013, 02:56 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (10-05-2013, 10:02 AM)Horuseus Wrote: Now, if you're asking about 'this' Universe, than sure, you could say that.

    Or if you're talking about the Absolutum Universe of 10^49 universes, there must be a being aware of that. As long as we set a limit, there can be one that is aware of all.

    (10-05-2013, 01:36 PM)kainous Wrote:
    (09-27-2013, 03:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Pantheism is much closer to my belief of Creator being the Creation.

    Consider the idea of panentheism, which is close, but takes God farther outside of the creation as well. I think a good way of wording it would be pantheism is the belief that God and creation are one. Panentheism is the believe that God is all creation and then some (say, infinity).

    Yes, I agree with panentheism. Much of our Logos is not manifest. Did Ra say that our Logos used most of it's creative ability for manifesting, or most of our Logos is unmanifest?

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