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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters The ego/persona path of control.

    Thread: The ego/persona path of control.


    Bat

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    07-17-2013, 09:54 AM
    I have been contemplating the idea of the Ego or rather the persona and how it effects each and every one of us during incarnation in 3rd density.

    It seems to be based on the aspect of judgement. When we judge things we are creating separation. More specifically the categorization of thoughts into things i approve of and things i do not approve of.

    We then seek at almost all costs to for fill the desires of what we approve of thus resulting into i like, i want and when things don't always work out the way we want them, there is some suffering at one level or another, (unless you have balanced the idea of suffering/love)

    Likewise when we look at the idea of things i do not approve of, it simply becomes i don't like and i don't want and we can't always get away from the things we don't want, resulting in suffering.

    The most interesting thing is that most people from my eyes are following a basic STS path, they suppress the feelings and emotions they don't like or try and control them. When they see others doing things that don't fit in there "box" of appropriate, they will almost always try and debate you, trying there best to turn your persona into there own ideas of how things should be, this is controlling others for the self.

    This then becomes another level when movements and society's are created based on what i would call a "super ego", which is really just a mass version of the same thing or parameters of approve/disapprove.

    These groups or society's will use all of there faith/will power to over power other groups having a different idea of how things should be. politics is a great example.

    All of this is when heading to the idea of one group over powering all others into there idea of approve/disapprove and thus creating a social memory complex based on a hierarchy.

    I find people doing this all the time without really realizing that they are doing it.

    I guess the true genius is seeing both aspects of approve/disapprove as two different parts of the same whole, accepting them both in balance as the creator.

    Your thoughts?

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    xise (Offline)

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    07-17-2013, 10:00 AM
    Quote:The most interesting thing is that most people from my eyes are following a basic STS path, they suppress the feelings and emotions they don't like or try and control them. When they see others doing things that don't fit in there "box" of appropriate, they will almost always try and debate you, trying there best to turn your persona into there own ideas of how things should be, this is controlling others for the self.

    I think there was support in the Ra material to the notion that the average default polarization of people on Earth was 72% service to self, hence why 95% service to self was negative graduation (+23% negative) and why 51% service to others was positive (51% sto = 49% sts, 49% sts is -23% negative from 72%).

    Quote:I guess the true genius is seeing both aspects of approve/disapprove as two different parts of the same whole, accepting them both in balance as the creator.

    Do you view a coastal shark attack as some great evil that needs to be smitten? Or do you accept it as part of the universe while still taking measures to not get bitten? I think that's part of the distinction between moving to a place of non-judgement, yet still being grounded in reality and being able to take actions necessary to survive.

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    Bat

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    07-17-2013, 10:07 AM
    Quote:Do you view a coastal shark attack as some great evil that needs to be smitten?

    Sharks do not have a persona/yellow ray complex like we do in 3rd density, imo.

    Quote:I think there was support in the Ra material to the notion that the average default polarization of people on Earth was 72% service to self, hence why 95% service to self was negative graduation (+23% negative) and why 51% service to others was positive (51% sto = 49% sts, 49% sts is -23% negative from 72%).

    I haven't seen the 72% idea before, can you quote it? It seems interesting.


    Thanks.

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    BlatzAdict (Offline)

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    07-17-2013, 10:25 AM
    of course sharks are a threat, don't you know they can jump out of the water and tear down ufos and blimps and huge air bus planes man

    they are a menace..

    Especially in Miami.

    http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/513760

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    xise (Offline)

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    07-17-2013, 11:07 AM (This post was last modified: 07-17-2013, 11:08 AM by xise.)
    (07-17-2013, 10:07 AM)Bat Wrote:
    Quote:Do you view a coastal shark attack as some great evil that needs to be smitten?

    Sharks do not have a persona/yellow ray complex like we do in 3rd density, imo.

    Are you looking for separation, or are you looking for unity? You can find either if you look. I find it useful to find unity between "intelligent evil" and "natural evil," because I am more accepting of natural evil. There are however, multiple paths to acceptance, and this sort of understanding is not the only one, so yours may well be different.

    (07-17-2013, 10:07 AM)Bat Wrote:
    Quote:I think there was support in the Ra material to the notion that the average default polarization of people on Earth was 72% service to self, hence why 95% service to self was negative graduation (+23% negative) and why 51% service to others was positive (51% sto = 49% sts, 49% sts is -23% negative from 72%).

    I haven't seen the 72% idea before, can you quote it? It seems interesting.


    Thanks.

    On a quick check I don't think the 72% average is accurate. The material only seems to indicate the sinkhole of indifference is from 50% service to self to 94% service to self, and that the vast majority of people of earth are in that (so throwing any specific percentages aside, the vast majority of unawakened people will take "selfish" action most of the time). But here's the quote where I think I got that impression:

    Quote:17.32 Questioner: What must be the entity’s percentage, shall we say, if he is to be harvested for the negative?

    Ra: I am Ra. The entity who wishes to pursue the path of service to self must attain a grade of five, that is five percent service to others, ninety-five percent service to self. It must approach totality. The negative path is quite difficult to attain harvestability upon and requires great dedication.

    17.33 Questioner: Why is the negative path so much more difficult a path to attain harvestability upon than the positive?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is due to a distortion of the Law of One which indicates that the gateway to intelligent infinity be a gateway at the end of a strait and narrow path as you may call it. To attain fifty-one percent dedication to the welfare of other-selves is as difficult as attaining a grade of five percent dedication to otherselves. The, shall we say, sinkhole of indifference is between those two.

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    Bat

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    07-17-2013, 11:23 AM
    I am a seeker of unity at heart, although i do have thoughts of separation often. I guess we could look at the idea of separation/unity being the same thing at the end of the day.

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    avirgintomorrow (Offline)

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    04-03-2018, 01:35 AM
    450 millions years and still not 3rd density? Must be a reason. Third density sharks would be a handful that's for sure.

    (07-17-2013, 10:07 AM)Bat Wrote:
    Quote:Do you view a coastal shark attack as some great evil that needs to be smitten?

    Sharks do not have a persona/yellow ray complex like we do in 3rd density, imo.


    Quote:I think there was support in the Ra material to the notion that the average default polarization of people on Earth was 72% service to self, hence why 95% service to self was negative graduation (+23% negative) and why 51% service to others was positive (51% sto = 49% sts, 49% sts is -23% negative from 72%).

    I haven't seen the 72% idea before, can you quote it? It seems interesting.


    Thanks.

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