New Radiation Belt

[Parsons]

It's quite clear from the Ra channelings that the council watches over Earth and makes sure we are protected from complete annihilation. It follows then that is there were a massive danger to Earth, there would be "inexplicable" phenomenon that protect us.

No, in fact, Ra says that souls get help if they are nuked, but even in this scenario we have free will - i.e., we're on our own.
Civilizations have done this over and over - blown themselves up before they finished 3D. Mars is a prime example. If we blow ourselves up, we face 100% of this.
The council does just that - it provides counsel and guidance. It isn't the idiot brigade

I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't find the quote to be sure of what it said. I just remember initially thinking what Guardian said then examining the quote more closely and realized that our world and its inhabitants are NOT protected from blowing ourselves up but our souls ARE protected from getting somehow damaged by a nuclear blast.

[kdsii]

I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't find the quote to be sure of what it said. I just remember initially thinking what Guardian said then examining the quote more closely and realized that our world and its inhabitants are NOT protected from blowing ourselves up but our souls ARE protected from getting somehow damaged by a nuclear blast.

9.8 Questioner: Then I’m— I’m assuming what you’re saying is that the guardians transferred the race here after the race had died from the physical as we know it on Mars. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?
Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

So, I get the impression that if something happened at this crucial time in our history, an exception for intervening MIGHT be made (given the planet is undergoing the shift and our Harvest is occurring). Still, we are still very capable of royally screwing up, and have started over in the past.

[reeay]

I didn't find any passages that point towards confederation protecting earth from radiation or other types of harm. Could it be a violation of free will if the confederation were to e.g., make radiation barriers so we would not be over-exposed to radiation/harmful things or 'fix' the atmosphere, etc. etc.?

[Ankh]

It's quite clear from the Ra channelings that the council watches over Earth and makes sure we are protected from complete annihilation. It follows then that is there were a massive danger to Earth, there would be "inexplicable" phenomenon that protect us.

No, in fact, Ra says that souls get help if they are nuked, but even in this scenario we have free will - i.e., we're on our own.
Civilizations have done this over and over - blown themselves up before they finished 3D. Mars is a prime example. If we blow ourselves up, we face 100% of this.
The council does just that - it provides counsel and guidance. It isn't the idiot brigade

I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't find the quote to be sure of what it said. I just remember initially thinking what Guardian said then examining the quote more closely and realized that our world and its inhabitants are NOT protected from blowing ourselves up but our souls ARE protected from getting somehow damaged by a nuclear blast.

Ra: I am Ra. Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. This we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic Infinite One.

[Parsons]

Yep, that's it Ankh. I couldn't find that quote for the life of me.

[kdsii]

Yep, that's it Ankh. I couldn't find that quote for the life of me.

On a related note, I read today (The Convoluted Universe, Book III), that Mars' atmosphere blew off due to a nearby planet (Maldek?)'s destruction, caused by the inhabitants there. They were trying to develop something and blew themselves up. This, in turn, harshly affected Mars' atmosphere.

You never know, might be true, might not be. I don't know how accurate information from past life regression is, but I've always wondered the details of what happened to Mars...

[Parsons]

Yep, that's it Ankh. I couldn't find that quote for the life of me.

On a related note, I read today (The Convoluted Universe, Book III), that Mars' atmosphere blew off due to a nearby planet (Maldek?)'s destruction, caused by the inhabitants there. They were trying to develop something and blew themselves up. This, in turn, harshly affected Mars' atmosphere.

You never know, might be true, might not be. I don't know how accurate information from past life regression is, but I've always wondered the details of what happened to Mars...

Not to derail further, but if that truly is a separate source from anything L/L, it matches up nicely with this:

9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?

Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

[Ankh]

On a related note, I read today (The Convoluted Universe, Book III), that Mars' atmosphere blew off due to a nearby planet (Maldek?)'s destruction, caused by the inhabitants there. They were trying to develop something and blew themselves up. This, in turn, harshly affected Mars' atmosphere.

You never know, might be true, might not be. I don't know how accurate information from past life regression is, but I've always wondered the details of what happened to Mars...

Don't want to derail this thread either. But here is what Ra said about Maldek and when they destroyed their planet:

The peoples of Maldek had a civilization somewhat similar to that of the societal complex known to you as Atlantis in that it gained much technological information and used it without care for the preservation of their sphere following to a majority extent the complex of thought, ideas, and actions which you may associate with your so-called negative polarity or the service to self. This was, however, for the most part, couched in a sincere belief/thought structure which seemed to the perception of the mind/body complexes of this sphere to be positive and of service to others. The devastation that wracked their biosphere and caused its disintegration resulted from what you call war.

The escalation went to the furthest extent of the technology this social complex had at its disposal in the space/time present of the then time. This time was approximately seven oh five, oh oh oh, seven hundred and five thousand [705,000] of your years ago. The cycles had begun much, much earlier upon this sphere due to its relative ability to support the first-dimensional life forms at an earlier point in the space/time continuum of your solar system. These entities were so traumatized by this occurrence that they were in what you may call a social complex knot or tangle of fear. Some of your time passed. No one could reach them. No beings could aid them.

Mars on the other hand, as I understand it, destroyed their planetary sphere about 75,000 years ago:

9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?

Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

9.11 Questioner: How long ago did this transfer occur from the Red Planet to Earth?

Ra: I am Ra. In your time this transfer occurred approximately seven five zero zero zero [75,000] years ago.

9.12 Questioner: 75,000 years ago?

Ra: I am Ra. This is approximately correct.

[Parsons]

@Ankh, are you trying to say the timing is off? If that's the case, one could argue a chunk of Maldek could have orbited the solar system several times(thousands of years) before passing too close to Mars.

[Ankh]

@Ankh, are you trying to say the timing is off? If that's the case, one could argue a chunk of Maldek could have orbited the solar system several times(thousands of years) before passing too close to Mars.

Well, yeah, that too. But Ra also said this:

However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle.

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

[zenmaster]

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

[Wander-Man]

From a psychological perspective, I think the root or major thoughtform of this thread is: We have open minds and feel a sense of security.

And maybe the positive energy mobilized by this thread goes into the planet, helping to protect us from danger. The council empowers us to protect ourselves. WE are the guardians, technically.

:idea:

[zenmaster]

We have open minds and feel a sense of security.

[Wander-Man]

What are you saying?

[zenmaster]

What are you saying?

We can and do make up anything we want to have a sense of security.

[Wander-Man]

I agree, and I like it.

[Ankh]

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

I would also think that the sun would protect a planet from any random stuff that would hit a planet and destroy the environment for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle, but that's just a theory, or logical thought. It might be wrong.

[zenmaster]

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

Yes, I remember starting a thread on the subject. There was someone wondering why we hadn't found evidence of such a Martian civilization. Well, I read here that all traces of a city, such as NYC, would be gone on earth in only 25,000 years without man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath:_Population_Zero
There's also this: http://speculativeevolution.wikia.com/wi...ter_People

Interestingly, Maldek had no such bellicose actions and were sincerely acting according to service to other intentions. Yet they managed to literally explode their planet.

[Ankh]

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

Yes, I remember starting a thread on the subject. There was someone wondering why we hadn't found evidence of such a Martian civilization. Well, I read here that all traces of a city, such as NYC, would be gone on earth in only 25,000 years without man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath:_Population_Zero
There's also this: http://speculativeevolution.wikia.com/wi...ter_People

Interestingly, Maldek had no such bellicose actions and were sincerely acting according to service to other intentions. Yet they managed to literally explode their planet.

What does this have to do with what I said?

[zenmaster]

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

Yes, I remember starting a thread on the subject. There was someone wondering why we hadn't found evidence of such a Martian civilization. Well, I read here that all traces of a city, such as NYC, would be gone on earth in only 25,000 years without man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath:_Population_Zero
There's also this: http://speculativeevolution.wikia.com/wi...ter_People

Interestingly, Maldek had no such bellicose actions and were sincerely acting according to service to other intentions. Yet they managed to literally explode their planet.

What does this have to do with what I said?

The inhabitants destroying their planet, and so forth.

[Aaron]

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

I would also think that the sun would protect a planet from any random stuff that would hit a planet and destroy the environment for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle, but that's just a theory, or logical thought. It might be wrong.

Don't you think it would be the higher density entities protecting earth from cosmic disasters? :p (like Ra? )

[zenmaster]

So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

I would also think that the sun would protect a planet from any random stuff that would hit a planet and destroy the environment for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle, but that's just a theory, or logical thought. It might be wrong.

Don't you think it would be the higher density entities protecting earth from cosmic disasters? :p (like Ra? )

I don't know. We know the confederation puts back-up bodies in place in case of disaster. The time to recoup is not long in the grand scheme of themes, and there is no rush. The only problem requiring any intervention whatsoever seems to be where an entity may get stuck in a situation where there is no possibility for advancement.

[Ankh]

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

I would also think that the sun would protect a planet from any random stuff that would hit a planet and destroy the environment for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle, but that's just a theory, or logical thought. It might be wrong.

Don't you think it would be the higher density entities protecting earth from cosmic disasters? :p (like Ra? )

Could be too. I have no idea. I just thought of the sun, since it is the "caretaker", the one in which care we are as the mind/body/spirit complexes. So why would it "allow" any random stuff which is out there in the cosmos to hit a planet and make in inhospitable for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle? But it could be higher density entities too. :p