The Lightbringer

[Unbound]

Silence speaks.

[Oldern]

Very interesting, so to speak.

My mind immediately translated the Kerub guarding the inner spheres as the Quarantine, for some reason. Although I know it is more like a treshhold, from that point on, one has no shred of fear left.

[Marc]

I've been meditating on this concept for the last three days and my heart needed to read these words. I've been having the realization of the goodness of the demiurge through its trials. The demiurge is like an abusive father but behind it the works of Sophia are carried out.

One thing I'm struggling to understand is the gnostic way of salvation. How did the cross save? Was it just showing that we were eternal and gave a way to realize that and thus come to salvation, not by atonement, but knowledge? From reading the gnostic gospels it seems to be that Jesus (whose name means savior) saved by awakening man to their true nature. So what was the need for crucifixion?

[Guardian]

There was no need for crucifixion. It was simply one outcome. However Ra says that Jesus chose the martyr path in his soul contract.

[Ashim]

There was no need for crucifixion. It was simply one outcome. However Ra says that Jesus chose the martyr path in his soul contract.

This is part of what Ra said:

17.20 Questioner: How did this aggressive action against a playmate affect Jesus in his spiritual growth? Where did he go after his physical death?

Ra: I am Ra. The entity you call Jesus was galvanized by this experience and began a lifetime of seeking and searching. This entity studied first day and night in its own religious constructs which you call Judaism and was learned enough to be a rabbi, as you call the teach/learners of this particular rhythm or distortion of understanding, at a very young age.

At the age of approximately thirteen and one-half of your years, this entity left the dwelling place of its earthly family, as you would call it, and walked into many other places seeking further information. This went on sporadically until the entity was approximately twenty-five, at which time it returned to its family dwelling, and learned and practiced the art of its earthly father.

When the entity had become able to integrate or synthesize all experiences, the entity began to speak to other-selves and teach/learn what it had felt during the preceding years to be of an worthwhile nature. The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self when it was in its last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.

[Spaced]

I get the feeling that forgiveness, especially of those who would seek to do you harm, might have been a somewhat foreign concept on this planet before Christ. (at least in the Southwest Asia and Europe.)

[Marc]

I understand Ra's perspective on the issue and in the manner of the LOO I see it was just a fate he chose for himself. I wish to see in a gnostic/esoteric way what the meaning of crucifixion was. I'm pretty sure there is some meaning behind the cross itself, and that's what I wish to understand.

[GentleReckoning]

I've seen the cross referenced with pyramids and sacred geometry. This video connects the three, but doesn't adequately describe their connection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_2Y_l93KmU

[Spaced]

I think the cross might also be a symbol for the intersection between time and space.

[Ashim]

I think the cross might also be a symbol for the intersection between time and space.

As above.....

[βαθμιαίος]

I understand Ra's perspective on the issue and in the manner of the LOO I see it was just a fate he chose for himself. I wish to see in a gnostic/esoteric way what the meaning of crucifixion was. I'm pretty sure there is some meaning behind the cross itself, and that's what I wish to understand.

Just a guess...

94.26 Questioner: I’ll have to work on that.

Then I am guessing that the crossed legs of the entity in Card Four have a meaning similar to the crux ansata. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The cross formed by the living limbs of the image signifies that which is the nature of mind/body/spirit complexes in manifestation within your illusion. There is no experience which is not purchased by effort of some kind, no act of service to self or others which does not bear a price, to the entity manifesting, commensurate with its purity. All things in manifestation may be seen in one way or another to be offering themselves in order that transformations may take place upon the level appropriate to the action.

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95.27 Questioner: The possibility of the legs of the entity of Card Four being at right angles was linked with the tesseract, mentioned in a much earlier session by Ra, as the direction of transformation from space/time into time/space and I was thinking that possibly it was also linked with the crux ansata. Am I in any way correct in this observation?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last query of this working, as transferred energy wanes. The observation of the right angles and their transformational meaning is most perceptive, O student. Each of the images leading to the Transformations of Mind, Body, and Spirit and ultimately to the great transformative Choice have the increasing intensity of increasing articulation of concept; that is to say, each image in which you find this angle may increasingly be seen to be a more and more stridently calling voice of opportunity to use each resource, be it experience as you now observe or further images, for the grand work of the adept which builds towards transformation using the spirit’s bountiful shuttle to intelligent infinity. Please ask any brief queries at this space/time.

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103.11 Questioner: Would Ra comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. The use of the tau and the architect’s square is indeed intended to suggest the proximity of the space/time of the Great Way’s environment to time/space. We find this observation most perceptive.

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103.14 Questioner: The bent left leg of the sphinxes indicates a transformation that occurs on the left that doesn’t occur on the right, possibly an inability in that position to move. Does this have any merit?

Ra: I am Ra. The observation has merit in that it may serve as the obverse of the connotation intended. The position is intended to show two items, one of which is the dual possibilities of the time-full characters there drawn.

The resting is possible in time, as is the progress. If a mixture is attempted, the upright, moving leg will be greatly hampered by the leg that is bent. The other meaning has to do with the same right angle, with its architectural squareness, as the device upon the breast of the actor.

Time/space is close in this concept complex, brought close due to the veiling process and its efficaciousness in producing actors who wish to use the resources of the mind in order to evolve.

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More...

"...the cross which is of perfect sacrifice..."

"...evocation of the great cross of life..."

"...the circle indicating the magic of the spirit, the cross indicating that nature of manifestation which may only be valued by the losing."

[Unbound]

Silence speaks.

[Spaced]

You're one wise fella TheEternal

[Unbound]

The wisdom is available to all, "ask and ye shall receive".

[AnthroHeart]

For some reason I feel wrong with Luciferian wisdom. Is all knowledge therefore Luciferian?

[Marc]

For some reason I feel wrong with Luciferian wisdom. Is all knowledge therefore Luciferian?

Luciferian wisdom is just a certain lense with which you can look through to see the intelligent infinity (wisdom), not wisdom itself.

[Unbound]

Silence speaks.