Questions about the soul

[Cimi]

Hello

I have pondered about this topic a bit. And I wonder if this is correct: Our higher self is where we strive to evolve to through our journey through densities. Our higher self "split" a part of itself so that I could incarnate in a human body. Is this somewhat correct?

So going on with this, am I an individual part of my higher self, and are my higher self in-itself an individual as percieving things from a single unit perspective?

If I where to leave my physical body through death, where does my soul go? This portion of my higher self will be seen as "me" still having an individual free will? Will I be able to make choices as freely as I do now in my human experience?

I just want a perspective on this, if it's found throughout the Law of One series or if it's understood anywhere else, I would be most grateful for some explanations . I understand it may be hard to answer all this and I understand nothing can be "proven". So just give me your personal view on these questions I don't mind .

I have a hard time to think that only the physical body is giving concioussness a chance to be individualized and would think that I am what I am even when I leave my physical body maybe choosing to reincarnate again. By the way, are these questions ego-based in a sense?

Namaste

[norral]

man what great questions cimi. as i understand it the higher self is the part of us that is totally divine. this is the divine spark that transmits its life to us thru the silver cord. this higher self interestingly enuf does not get involved in the world of men. in between the higher self and us is the holy christ self. the holy christ self is the mediator between the higher self and the human. so we could say the holy christ self steps down the energy form the higher self just like a transformer steps down the voltage going into our houses. the souls as i understand it is the composite of all of our experiences from all of our previous lives. this is what gives us our individuality so to speak and makes us what we are. and please dont take this as gospel this is just my personal understanding others i am sure have different ones, this happens to make sense to me

norral

[Cimi]

Thank you Your understanding is very much appreciated.

Just now I came to think of another question. Do we need to "do" anything or is anything expected from us when we incarnate? This is a large question and if it can be explained simple I do not know. Sometimes all my philosophical thoughts seem to be tearing my mind apart

Namaste

[norral]

ha ha welcome to the club . as i understand it our mission or task for this life is to be true to ourselves and not to what others would like us to be. there is tremendous pressure in society to conform but the truth is the higher self and the holy christ self will never lead us astray. no human can possibly know us like the hs and the hcs can so i would say the goal, the mission , is to trust the inner guidance that we receive and to act on that. meditation, contemplation, reading of holy books, prayer, all put us in a place to receive guidance from the divine

norral

[Cimi]

Yeah that sounds pretty good to me I have never liked pretending to be someone I am not truly. It's hard to go out with friends and not try to form yourself so that you "suit in". Also I don't fit in very well in society, I have never liked the idea of applying for a job you won't enjoy doing just to get an income to survive. And if you don't take that job for no "good" reason they will cease even the little money you get from government. Bleh.. I just want to be able to exist without a pressure that I "need" to do something if you understand me. I would want to spend my time 100% full of joy doing whatever I like without the boundaries of society placed upon me, it's really hard to free yourself in this current time it feels like.

Namaste

[Oldern]

Hey Cimi! Welcome in this forum, first of all! : )

I consider myself lucky as for some reason, I have totally accepted the idea that I am not Me, but I am something greater that decided to experience being Me in the first place. I have faith in that I will absolutely enjoy being Me in a different way. After all, when one experiences certain feelings, those fill you up in a way that does not really allow any personality to exist. When you feel love, feel loved, or feel pain, for that matter, there is not much room for complex personalities to cling to anyway.

But, regardless of how I feel about this, I have seen many who struggle with the idea that this existence, as a role for an actor, will be put down once for some reason. Know this, then: just as we all remember the great heroes in our stories, and those that really love them could recite their every action, every thought, intent and struggle, just as easily will our higher self remember, accept and embrace everything we did in our lives - and even more so, as they will literally be able to tap back into our experiences for a moment-to-moment basis, if the concepts of non-veiled existence are anything to base this theory on.

So worry not, I say. Also, it is good to get used to the idea of the soul not "leaving the body" (as you asked: where does our soul go), but the body leaving the soul once it is not able to function properly, for one reason or another. Or once the soul decides that it is time to hang the mantle. The soul does not go anywhere, as there is nothing to go but here, and there is nothing but now.

[Cimi]

Thank you for your welcome Oldern . I got a good feeling that I will stay on this forum, seems to be so much nice people with respect for eachother, no dramas and no dogmas.

I really like what you say here, it gave me a new way to look at things, it makes so much sense. After all I'm doing my best not to worry, I also have faith that everything is as it should be and always has. No rights/wrongs, it's all just a grand dance through existence. I tend to like the analogy that we play an advanced video-game being humans - but it's purpose is other than to be the best or "win" by struggling to accomplish things. I read somewhere that the key in life is to be able to see love in every single thing or situation.

Namaste

[Cyan]

Best analogue i came up with is a old computer game that is simply not run anymore, doesnt mean it cant be run but its not run right now.

If you think of the various components and their relative positions you'll see its quite the same structure. Methinks.

[Cimi]

Best analogue i came up with is a old computer game that is simply not run anymore, doesnt mean it cant be run but its not run right now.

If you think of the various components and their relative positions you'll see its quite the same structure. Methinks.

I'm sorry I didn't quite understand this analogy Could you make it a bit more simplistic you think? What should this analogy represent?

Namaste

[Cyan]

You have spinning disk (harddrive) on it you have programs that are distributed in one way (fragmented) and unified in another (still one program functionally) that dont run on the surface (disk itself) but are scanned/projected away from the disk (read) and then projected onto a screen (3rd eye) for the amusement of the self (player).

When you (current program) dies it is still just as the way it was before, it is simply not currently running (not currently being projected). Soul itself is some... combination... of the current, matrix (data in) and potentiator (user of computer).

so, what happens is anyones guess really but the computer way of looking at it is amongst the best.

[BrownEye]

My higher self is incarnated simultaneously in multiple time periods. While not able to have two simultaneous incarnations in a single time period.

My soul (lesser) is a portion of oversoul. The oversoul has mutiple incarnations parallel and simultaneously.

I can't say i grasp how it works, yet most swap these terms around without much meaning.

I do know that the only thing i can expect is to "become", not end.

[Cimi]

Thanks I understand a bit better now. But as I said, some concepts just feels too much for me to grasp right now, esepcially the multiple-time concept.

Yesterday I got a thought; what if it's like to relive any "past" or "future" but when doing it as an individual, at that particular moment you step in you forget everything before you "jumped in". That would explain that time doesn't exist but it does seem linear for us here now. But one thing that got me wonder too, is that if the universe itself is linear or if you as easily could just take a step back to the beginning of creation? I mean, in the NOW moment, must that really be where the earth are right now in it's evolution? Couldn't this NOW moment have happened before just as easily as it has not happened?

Namaste

[BrownEye]

I found some links last night that describe my own findings, in a much better way than I could describe.

http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/rc4/hrc4-07.shtml

http://www.melora.org/Soulgroups2.html

[Horuseus]

^ Thanks. That is pretty much what I got today morning when I asked myself.

I can say the Fractal analogy would be a good method for representing the concept. Though I should note the 'top-down' is only applicable in hierarchical terms rather than 'linear time', should one choose to model it as such.