What is 4D like ? How is it different?

[oguz]

sometime ago had read that there isn't left and right by 4d

[AnthroHeart]

I think in 4D we will only see and experience what we vibrationally are in resonance with. So each will see their own perfect world.

[Turtle]

I think in 4D we will only see and experience what we vibrationally are in resonance with. So each will see their own perfect world.

I agree with what you say, although I would add that we already do experience what we are vibrationally in resonance in...it's just that in this world we still see very clear examples of what 3rd density veiled life can be like, even if only from afar on the news for example, or in our own neighborhoods....in 4d, the harmony between all is stellar...

[Wai]

I always think it will be like a Disney movie, where the birds and trees and rabbits talk to you in cartoon voices when you walk by them. In fact, sometimes when I walk around now I pretend that the birds and trees are talking to me just like that. For example, a bunch of little birdies would be saying "Hey, it's Etude, yay!! Isn't it a beautiful day today? Our friend Squirrelly found a tree that was giving out delicious nuts and seeds. Wanna go check it out?"

And I can float.

Hey, Etude, Me too!

On most days, I walk past five big trees on my way to lunch. And yes, I talk to the trees. Whenever I have a problem, I will talk to the trees, tell them what happened, and I will get an answer. I always feel good after that. I also sit near them whenever I feel depressed and I will feel much better after ten minutes or so.

[AnthroHeart]

I think in 4D we will only see and experience what we vibrationally are in resonance with. So each will see their own perfect world.

I agree with what you say, although I would add that we already do experience what we are vibrationally in resonance in...it's just that in this world we still see very clear examples of what 3rd density veiled life can be like, even if only from afar on the news for example, or in our own neighborhoods....in 4d, the harmony between all is stellar...

I agree. In 4D you probably want for nothing.

[Conifer16]

I talk to the stars, anyone else do that? just go out at night and chat with them?

And 4D is like how paradise is described in 3D :-)truly an amazing place, and so different. everyone actual cares about everyone else. you can go up to anyone(so to speak) and it won't be like approaching a stranger, it will be like going up to a friend. one who really cares about you :-)

at least that is how it feels to me. what i am doing up above is feeling at the different things that feel "wrong" to me and then deducing what it actually is in 4D. i am attempting this because i am fairly certain that i am a 4D dual body graduate returning for one last jaunt in 3D life to help all you lovely people out and to get a little more personal evolution in. :-)

[AnthroHeart]

I appreciate the warm vibrations you bring Conifer.
I'm here too to serve others through my vibrations.
Whatever 4D is, I'm sure it will be unexpected.
I'll be eager to learn, and seek out the akashic records.
I'm so curious about what's going on with Earth,
and would love to find others of like vibration to me,
that maybe I had missed in this life.
Most of all the love that will be freely shared.
I almost can't wait.
I tended to think I was a 6D wanderer. But I'm not sure.

[Spaced]

I can't wait to meet you all in the flesh in 4D

[AnthroHeart]

I can't wait to meet you all in the flesh in 4D

If we do meet then I'll do my darndest to be in my anthro form. That way we'll know something magical happened.

[Conifer16]

lots of people tell me that i have a "warm" feeling to me :-) thanks :-)

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in the sort of flesh you mean :-P

[Spaced]

in the new flesh

[AnthroHeart]

Is there work in 4D? By that I mean jobs? The Ra Material mentions that Genghis Kahn has a job, but I'm not sure if it's along the same type of work that we do in 3D. Do we only do those things that bring us joy, and not just out of necessity?

[Cyan]

Is there work in 4D? By that I mean jobs? The Ra Material mentions that Genghis Kahn has a job, but I'm not sure if it's along the same type of work that we do in 3D. Do we only do those things that bring us joy, and not just out of necessity?

My opinion, more work because of less possibility to spend time wasted going "hmmm, what should i do now"

[AnthroHeart]

I like to sit and do nothing, but lately my focus has been on watching furry videos and trying to manifest my desires.

[Cyan]

I like to sit and do nothing, but lately my focus has been on watching furry videos and trying to manifest my desires.

if you like to sit and do nothing then your "job" in the 4d as i understand it would be to "sit and do nothing". You'd get paid quite well i imagine since you would create people to pay you quite well

[AnthroHeart]

Creating people. Now that would be impressive.

[Cyan]

Creating people. Now that would be impressive.

Not the people in actuality (the soul) but the masks into your personality field (you say that you accept this and that soul to have this and that body type at this and that time around you and you will love it unconditionally as you know for certain that it is a partial manifestation at least of yourself and thus cant be a danger to you if your original connection/desire was honest)

Its not exactly creating people, more like creating masks for the people that you want to enter to wear with the knoweldge that they enter for the purpose of taking off the mask and talking as spirits. 4d thats easy, 3d not so much, 3d that'd be called Schiso something somethign.

Edit: Creating customers for your business is a good example of this in 3d version. /pray for people to come/

[AnthroHeart]

As long as those masks that I'd be creating feel and seem real to me, it could teach me a great deal about myself.

[Oceania]

you can too create souls. souls are spirit in a mask as you call it. and everything has spirit.

[Patrick]

Sure we have a job in 4d. Our job is to love.

[AnthroHeart]

So would we be able to create these people exactly to look like what we wish? Or will they be elements of our subconscious such as in a dream where there are otherselves that are representations of yourself?

Because I wouldn't mind meeting this individual. Or should I say I wouldn't mind BEing this individual.

Creating people. Now that would be impressive.

Not the people in actuality (the soul) but the masks into your personality field (you say that you accept this and that soul to have this and that body type at this and that time around you and you will love it unconditionally as you know for certain that it is a partial manifestation at least of yourself and thus cant be a danger to you if your original connection/desire was honest)

Its not exactly creating people, more like creating masks for the people that you want to enter to wear with the knoweldge that they enter for the purpose of taking off the mask and talking as spirits. 4d thats easy, 3d not so much, 3d that'd be called Schiso something somethign.

Edit: Creating customers for your business is a good example of this in 3d version. /pray for people to come/

[Cyan]

So would we be able to create these people exactly to look like what we wish? Or will they be elements of our subconscious such as in a dream where there are otherselves that are representations of yourself?

Variable physicality and the ability to choose a catalyst. Seems pretty clear?

[AnthroHeart]

You bring up a good point about choosing a catalyst.
I also never thought about it as variable physicality.
I think I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[christine10]

I think we are already starting to experience some of the effects of 4d, ie thoughts becoming things.

this is most obvious in the example that Ra gave of cancer, where anger (one must imagine it is quite chronic, over a number of years) in response to rejected catalyst leads to bodily dysfunction (direct mind --> body effect).

these cancer rates have been skyrocketing since earth itself moved into 4d energies (since 1945).

mental illness has also been on the rise; and Ra says some of this is due to the self facing the self for the first time, and the individual being quite unprepared for what is seen (a taste of the veil dropping between conscious and unconscious mind).

if one works with these two principles of 4d (thoughts becoming things, and the veil dropping), one can observe changes in patterns in recent times.

sites like kickstarter and indiegogo allow direct funding of projects from interested individuals all round the globe. I've dropped down some cash, and it was so easy to observe the direct connection between attention (mine that is), and a flow of energy to another individual (me offering some monetary support to another's endeavour).

the internet is a quasi, technical social memory complex.

Agreed. Other examples: the Drug Wars (the more attention given to it the more it increases), various types of cancer (you already mentioned this) - the more they are publicized the more they spread. I think our mass communication devices can really help spread various epidemics as people begin to think fearfully about them. Marketers must understand this to some extent as they show on TV mini-dramas of people suffering from disease both "real" and "invented" (restless leg syndrome is an example.) A drug is invented, then a disease is invented to correspond to it. Or the commercials show people suffering dramatically, agonizingly. This taps into fear. On the positive side, our mass communication devices have helped raise the consciousness of the nation rapidly in certain areas through TV shows that spread laughter instead of fear around certain topics. The status of women has certainly been helped by mass communication, as has racial equality.

I totally agree.....MEDIA has THE BIGGEST influence on the masses, its all about distracting us from whats really going on and apparantly they think were all abunch of idiots that wanna watch programs about the exact opposite of REALITY shows, wholly cow if you can chew gum theres a show about it....WTH....hahaha!!!

And oh my do I believe that your attitude or whats going on in your life have such a big effect on your health I have actually experianced this first hand!

In 2001 my life fell apart, was layed off from my job, bf of 6yrs broke off engagment and we split, was his home that we shared so all of asudden was homeless AND while together I had sold my car and purchased truck together but was in his name so now I have no wheels.... and if all that wasnt bad enough.......ya know how they say you can tell who your friends are during adversity.....they werent just akidding....I looked around and couldnt find a soul....AND have 2kids from previous marriage who lived with me but now had to live with my ex which made it hard for me to see them, some times wks with out them and that CRUSHED anything that was left of my spirit!!

Well through out all this(6mths) I had a tumor growing in my belly and growing and growing,I had no idea and didnt feel sick besides depression and just figured was getting fat from lack of any physical activity.....I was in such a state that I couldnt deal with this.... I went into denial...till I had no choice but to face it....went from 120lbs to looking like I was a HUGE 9mths pregnant(knew that I wasnt tubes tied) but I was soooooo emotionally,mentally and financially bankrupt that I LITERALLY didnt even know HOW to get outta bed, I wasnt capable of doing nor caring about anything!!
I was living in vegas when all this happened and wasnt till I had no choice but to move back to home state of MN and my family took control,dragging me to hospital, were after 24hrs of tests and ultrasounds and drs comparing notes I was told that it was from what they could tell approx. a 20lb mass and that I needed emergency surgery NOW and that I would start treatment(cemo) immediatly following, and that if I had anyone(family) I wanted to talked to I needed to do so now....its very frightening when drs say that to you...my kids were in vegas and my mom was in w virginia, poor kids made ex drag them outta bed at 4am vegas time so I could just,what I thought was,say goodbye...poor things...and mom didnt answer which was sad but my big brother who was with me was very comforting with his twisted sense of humor(which runs rampant in my family....especially with me) says to me "She doesnt like you anyways" "She told me,your her least favorite of us all" hahahahahahahhahaha.......I know I know some may find that cruel but NOT us, we're as I said twisted...... its the way of our people....his way of saying "You have nothing to worry about youll be fine and you can talk to mom tomorrow" and I was fine, turned out to be 20lb mass of nothing or as I refer to it a.... MASS OF CRAP........I believe it was all the stress,worry,saddness,CRAP going on in my life it had to go somewhere, it just balled up and grew for what they say was probably a yr, its poison,carrying around so much garbage for so long......Iam soooo greatful it could have been so much worse, Im sure if I had let it go any longer it would have become cancer!!

So moral of the story .......LET GO...FORGIVE....FORGET....DONT CARRY AROUND ANGER and HURT....ITS POISON....LIVE AND LET LIVE.....DONT WORRY BE HAPPY and of course most importantly IF YOU CANT BE WITH THE ONE YOU LOVE, LOVE THE ONE YOUR WITH!!

[GentleReckoning]

Hello OP and others, I can only offer what my daydreams and imagination show me when it comes to how 4D will be experienced.

I had a little daydream about 4D recently, which presented itself in the form of a comic book. There were no words, all the characters were simply radiating energy at various frequencies and velocity. The energy had both colour and sound (the sound was almost like monks chanting or throat singing). Simply by existing and having thoughts they were putting out huge amounts of energy by our standards. It seemed to me that there would be no concealing thoughts since they would radiate from you instantly in a form which is tangible and visible to other 4Ders. The narrative of this little comic strip involved an argument between an individual and a group, the group held one idea and the individual held another. The force of the disagreement caused a sort of friction, literally causing sparks to fly until the force of the group's convictions won out and pushed the individual a great distance (though he didn't seem to get harmed when he crashed back down to earth, just a little crestfallen. Perhaps a lighter 4D body would make this the case).

From this I would deduce that the largest problems challenge facing 4D humans would be to 'tune in' to the same frequency, perhaps creating a social memory complex through their harmony.

Just a little idea I am putting out here for all of you

Well, I'm looking forward to it then! I'll of course be the stubborn outsider

I can't wait to get sent flying!

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I talk to the stars, anyone else do that? just go out at night and chat with them?

And 4D is like how paradise is described in 3D :-)truly an amazing place, and so different. everyone actual cares about everyone else. you can go up to anyone(so to speak) and it won't be like approaching a stranger, it will be like going up to a friend. one who really cares about you :-)

at least that is how it feels to me. what i am doing up above is feeling at the different things that feel "wrong" to me and then deducing what it actually is in 4D. i am attempting this because i am fairly certain that i am a 4D dual body graduate returning for one last jaunt in 3D life to help all you lovely people out and to get a little more personal evolution in. :-)

I tend to think that people will still have discordant or negative thoughts about other people. The difference is that they won't be able to hide them. So if you are near someone that strongly doesn't like the hat you are wearing, you can immediately recognize this and choose to not talk to them if you wish. What we gain isn't heaven...we're already there. What we gain an existence that much closer to truth.

[zenmaster]

Because I wouldn't mind meeting this individual. Or should I say I wouldn't mind BEing this individual.

Literally like a half-human / half-canine cartoon character?

[AnthroHeart]

Literally like a half-human / half-canine cartoon character?

Yesh.

As long as I were fully real (3 dimensional) and still had free will.
Plus being able to reproduce, eat, 5 senses, and such.

Though, even without these, the prospect is still very tempting.
Of course I wouldn't want to be flat and lifeless.

Honestly though, I feel like it would fulfill me.

Glad you asked.

[AnthroHeart]

I forgot to mention intelligence.
If I were this half human half canine cartoon being, I'd want at least human level intelligence. That's probably a given if I were a 4th density being.