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    Thread: Wanderer Question


    Ocean (Offline)

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    #31
    02-27-2011, 06:32 PM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2011, 06:32 PM by Ocean.)
    (02-27-2011, 11:31 AM)Confused Wrote: Not entirely in keeping with the spirit of the LOO, I would opine.

    how so? are black people not different from white people? they do have their own set of struggles. i don't know what it's like to be constantly judged by others because of my skin color. they take comfort in their group and know they are not alone. likewise most people who are in the game don't know what it's like to be someone who sucks at playing the game/refuses to and whose head is in the clouds. all my life i've looked for people who get it, who get me. why is that bad?

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    Confused (Offline)

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    #32
    02-27-2011, 06:37 PM
    (02-27-2011, 06:32 PM)Ocean Wrote:
    (02-27-2011, 11:31 AM)Confused Wrote: Not entirely in keeping with the spirit of the LOO, I would opine.

    how so? are black people not different from white people? they do have their own set of struggles. i don't know what it's like to be constantly judged by others because of my skin color. they take comfort in their group and know they are not alone. likewise most people who are in the game don't know what it's like to be someone who sucks at playing the game/refuses to and whose head is in the clouds. all my life i've looked for people who get it, who get me. why is that bad?

    I do not have the answer, my friend.

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    kycahi (Offline)

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    #33
    02-27-2011, 08:11 PM
    IMO, being different is in the spirit of the distortions of the Law, though not the Law itself. Lots of catalysts fly around with all of the differences.

    Being pale-skinned and arrogant in the post-Civil War U.S. South was very heavy experience, even though it might not have caused survival stress.

    I submit that being an "outsider" in 3D societies would push a Wanderer toward sympathy, empathy and humility, whereas bringing in a lot of awareness of the traits that came from higher-density existence might tempt a Wanderer toward a happy successful 3D life instead of one of service to others. We can agree on the urgent need for that, I think.

    Geez, I have to add gratitude to the above three. RollEyes
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    Ocean (Offline)

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    #34
    02-27-2011, 10:06 PM
    i'm confused by what you are saying. what do you mean bringing in awareness of the traits that came from higher-density existence?

    and how is a happy successful life somehow STS? i know happy successful 3D people who are very much service to others and loving.

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    Etude in B Minor (Offline)

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    #35
    02-27-2011, 11:51 PM
    Happiness is just fine for STO. The secret is to thank the creator for it. Usually people only think of the creator when something bad happens (oh god, help me out here.). When something good happens they just enjoy it without thanking the creator. So, the creator only gets called on for a lot of people when bad things happen. That is good, from the point of view that the creator is glad to help, but when you don't thank the creator when good things happen, then the creator isn't given the opportunity to respond to your call for more good things! So, in my view the right response to happiness (or anything pleasant) is to thank the creator for it and ask for more!

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    Ocean (Offline)

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    02-28-2011, 12:48 AM
    isn't appreciating something a thank you? why do you have to verbally say it? if i have to say thank you all the time it takes away from my enjoying stuff. i try to remember to bless and thank when i eat etc but if i do that all the time then it just gets distracting.

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    #37
    02-28-2011, 02:36 AM
    (02-28-2011, 12:48 AM)Ocean Wrote: isn't appreciating something a thank you? why do you have to verbally say it? if i have to say thank you all the time it takes away from my enjoying stuff. i try to remember to bless and thank when i eat etc but if i do that all the time then it just gets distracting.

    i think appreciating it can be a valid way of your own form of thank you as everything and all is infinitely love. it's just saying it matters in third density when addressing other individuals cause obviously not everyone can read ur thoughts.. hahaha

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    kycahi (Offline)

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    #38
    02-28-2011, 03:55 AM
    (02-27-2011, 10:06 PM)Ocean Wrote: and how is a happy successful life somehow STS? i know happy successful 3D people who are very much service to others and loving.

    I'm sorry for being so unclear. Happiness and success can (not must) lead to hubris which, while not causing STS, can take someone off their track of STO. OTOH success can indeed enable people to do good things, including being an example of STO.

    A new (naive?) Wanderer might mark some boxes on a list, metaphorically, that look like a good mix for the coming 3D STO life, including being odd. Or maybe those things are automatically chosen unless the newbie opts out. :-/

    Anyway, I really just wanted to say that if you hate being an oddball, maybe it's on purpose. So forgive whatever the cause and try to make lemonade out of the lemons. This isn't easy at all. I'm still working on it. Huh

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    Ankh (Offline)

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    #39
    02-28-2011, 08:07 AM
    (02-28-2011, 03:55 AM)kycahi Wrote: A new (naive?) Wanderer might mark some boxes on a list, metaphorically, that look like a good mix for the coming 3D STO life, including being odd. Or maybe those things are automatically chosen unless the newbie opts out. :-/

    It seems to be so, my brother.

    "48.7 Questioner: Who supervises the determination of further incarnation needs and sets up the seniority list for incarnation?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is a query with two answers.

    Firstly, there are those directly under the Guardians who are responsible for the incarnation patterns of those incarnating automatically, that is, without conscious self-awareness of the process of spiritual evolution. You may call these beings angelic if you prefer. They are, shall we say, “local” or of your planetary sphere.

    The seniority of vibration is to be likened unto placing various grades of liquids in the same glass. Some will rise to the top; others will sink to the bottom. Layers and layers of entities will ensue. As harvest draws near, those filled with the most light and love will naturally, and without supervision, be in line, shall we say, for the experience of incarnation.

    When the entity becomes aware in its mind/body/spirit complex totality of the mechanism for spiritual evolution it, itself, will arrange and place those lessons and entities necessary for maximum growth and expression of polarity in the incarnative experience before the forgetting process occurs. The only disadvantage of this total free will of those senior entities choosing the manner of incarnation experiences is that some entities attempt to learn so much during one incarnative experience that the intensity of catalyst disarranges the polarized entity and the experience thus is not maximally useful as intended.
    Category: Third Density: Programming

    48.8 Questioner: An analogy to that would be a student in college signing up for more courses than he could possibly assimilate in the time they were given. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct."

    The Lesser self can only pray that cosen programming was wise enough. Tongue

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    Ocean (Offline)

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    #40
    02-28-2011, 09:52 AM
    i will make lemonade and i hope it's not too bitter.

    i read somewhere helpers offer to help naive bozos to choose stuff but if they refuse they can't do anything about it. Tongue

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    #41
    02-28-2011, 02:32 PM
    I write the following as if I really know what I'm talking about. That is just a writer's device, so add salt to taste. Wink

    Look around for an opportunity serve Wanderingly. As you plan (or just jump in), tell your higher self that you will accept any help or advice. Be open to it and proceed. Continue the openness to HS even as you are flexible and open to the unfolding process. Smile a lot.

    What I wanted to say there was that maybe your purpose will become clearer as you take action. Even if this attempt doesn't seem to work, it will give you new data to process for next time.

    Thanks in advance from your humble servant. Heart

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    #42
    03-04-2011, 08:44 PM
    (02-28-2011, 12:48 AM)Ocean Wrote: isn't appreciating something a thank you? why do you have to verbally say it? if i have to say thank you all the time it takes away from my enjoying stuff. i try to remember to bless and thank when i eat etc but if i do that all the time then it just gets distracting.

    Well, I think there's a balance that has to be found between silently appreciating the experience for the self perceived as Creator, and sending a message of thanks for the experience to the Creator perceived outside the self.

    It's healthy and leads to optimal balance to send energy in both ways. If one way is overemphasized, that leads to imbalance.

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