Ra also is seeking without polarity

[airwaves]

That strikes a nerve, do you recall the session?

no i dont. i remember it from the book days back in 1995. there was no point in paying attention to session numbers etc then.

I did a fairly extensive search and was unable to locate it.

[unity100]

it may not be worded exactly like blind or foolish courage. meaning was similar.

[airwaves]

it may not be worded exactly like blind or foolish courage. meaning was similar.

[Wander-Man]

I think this is the quote you're looking for:

edit: http://lawofone.info/results.php?search_...ic_order=0

Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? Or what density do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom of which it had incarnated to avert the destruction.

ANother thing I'd like to add, I'm pretty sure Carla has said that she thinks most people born since the mid/late 80's are wanderers, mostly 4D I think. That's like around 3 billion peeps. We're not that special anymore ! What do you guys think? Do you agree with that hypothesis?

How would you tell what density you're from and how would that knowledge help your spiritual progression or service to others?

[βαθμιαίος]

If I look to myself as any kind of template for how a 6d soul is viewed by others in this life, I'd say that that kind of a person would go largely unnoticed and seem to be living an unambitious, "boring" life. Heh, how humorous it seems to me to be viewed like that.

Same here.

a difference maybe is, the wanderers incarnated from the groups involved with earth seem to be heavy on the compassion side, as we understand from what is told about them by Ra, and by q'uo. it is one of the reasons they are having to come to this planet to offset.

thus, they may still be seen as compassionate, or good, if their compassion bias manifests. until it is balanced, that is.

Good point.

Respectfully, I don't think that's it, for the simple reason that the entity would have had all of 4D to work on his shadow self. Since 4D STO entities don't have to deal with bellicose catalyst on a primitive war level, they are freed up to deal with catalyst triggered by their various emotions, including the dark ones. I would think that after the long 4D experience, that would have already been handled by the time the STS and STO paths are merged.

I guess I see a difference between accepting the shadow side and becoming it. Could be wrong, though. I have the idea that taking in the negative path is kind of like combining matter and anti-matter. Boom, and there's nothing left but the One.

By the way, my understanding is that fourth density isn't so much about integrating the shadow side as it is about polarizing more and more strongly. I see it as an action-oriented density, rather than contemplation-oriented.

Rather, my speculation is that the STO entity must learn to be selfish once again, but in a more balanced way than the STS selfishness. The 6D STO has polarized so completely that he may no longer serve himself adequately. I'm not referring to lack of wisdom. He has, hopefully, already learned the wisdom of when to offer service to others and when to temper that inclination to serve with the appropriate wisdom. But he may still be single-minded in his desire to serve others, and might therefore neglect his own needs.

Thus, perhaps the lesson is to be able to balance his service to others with service to himself.

My understanding, for what it's worth, is that sixth density, after the merging of the paths, is no longer working with the concepts of service to others and and service to self. At that point there's only service to the One.

ANother thing I'd like to add, I'm pretty sure Carla has said that she thinks most people born since the mid/late 80's are wanderers, mostly 4D I think. That's like around 3 billion peeps. Wanderers aren't that special anymore ! What do you guys think? Do you agree with that hypothesis?

Would those be the dual 3D/4D entities Ra mentioned, just in vastly greater numbers than there were in 1981? I think it's quite possible.

How would you tell what density you're from and how would that knowledge help your spiritual progression or service to others?

I'm not sure there's any way to tell for sure, but you could get a hunch by looking at the pattern of your life over time, in particular your initial, unguarded emotional reaction to situations. As for how it would help, I guess any deep self-knowledge can be helpful, though it does seem that one would need to guard against the tendency to feel superior because of being from elsewhere.

[3D Sunset]

My interpretation of this quote is that both paths merge because they both now have to see everything as light/love, like a reverse fork in the road, if that makes sense. The STO dude doesn't have to go back down the STS fork and learn how to be a greedy Gordon Gekko, it's just that the two paths now have to learn the same thing.

And it's easier for STO to see everything as light/love than it is for STS for obvious reasons.

Yay? Nay?

I tend to agree with you, Wander-Man for this reason: Prior to the veil, there simply was no STS polarity. Thus, moving beyond 6D could not have required embracing any STS portion of the self. Recall:

Questioner: You have stated in a much earlier session that it is necessary to polarize more than 50% service-to-others to be harvestable fourth-density positive. Was this condition the same at the time before the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working. The query is not answered easily, for the concept of service to self did not hold sway previous to what we have been calling the veiling process. The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the one infinite Creator. In your own terms at your space/time nexus this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.

Prior to the veiling process the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light. The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light. Between the two stairs lies the threshold. To cross that threshold is difficult. There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density. The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density. Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross. It was this situation which faced the Logoi prior to the veiling process being introduced into the experiential continuum of third density.

Since STS as a polarity is a relatively new phenomenon in cosmic terms, I would suggest that balancing STS with STO tendencies is clearly not a required part of proceeding to 7D. Rather, what is necessary is the relinquishing of polarity, which was a useful tool needed to progress from 3D, but is no longer needed (indeed is an impediment).

So I agree with you, with the advent of the veil a new path was created for people to progress out of 3D, that path being what we now call STS. This new path then intersected the old path at the point that polarity needed to be relinquished in order to proceed, that being in mid 6D.

Looking at it another way, the concept of service to a portion of the creation seems to be necessary to move out of 3D and is a useful tool to allow progression up to mid 6D. Beyond that, I would suggest that it is service to the creator itself that replaces the relinquished polarity. Such service thus transcends the creation and focus upon the creator, toward whom the entity then turns.

Food for thought,

3D Sunset

[unity100]

ANother thing I'd like to add, I'm pretty sure Carla has said that she thinks most people born since the mid/late 80's are wanderers, mostly 4D I think. That's like around 3 billion peeps. Wanderers aren't that special anymore ! What do you guys think? Do you agree with that hypothesis?

they are not wanderers in that, earth is a 4d vibration planet, and these entities are 4d (the ones you speak of). and probably gaia will be their home when 3d is over. therefore they are in the situation of the 250 harvested entities in the second cycle. wanderers in a sense that they incarnate to a lower vibration. but then again earth has 4d vibrations now.

also, 3 bil reborn since 80 are not necessarily 4d entities. they are probably entities who are incarnating by seniority for 3d harvest to complete 3d. we dont know this has stopped yet, and if stopped, when.

How would you tell what density you're from and how would that knowledge help your spiritual progression or service to others?

best would be working with one's own spiritual circle, support group, guides, higher principle, (self or totality) and whatnot.

I think this is the quote you're looking for:

http://lawofone.info/results.php?search_...e=any&ss=1

link broken. you should have right clicked -> copy link location, and paste. i think you made a selection and copied.

[Wander-Man]

well then, how does the positive path take in negative path, in practice ?

In sixth density, the density of unity, the positive and negative paths must needs take in each other for all now must be seen as love/light and light/love. This is not difficult for the positive polarity which sends love and light to all other-selves. It is difficult enough for service-to-self polarized entities that at some point the negative polarity is abandoned.

My interpretation of this quote is that both paths merge because they both now have to see everything as light/love, like a reverse fork in the road, if that makes sense. The STO dude doesn't have to go back down the STS fork and learn how to be a greedy Gordon Gekko, it's just that the two paths now have to learn the same thing.

And it's easier for STO to see everything as light/love than it is for STS for obvious reasons.

Yay? Nay?

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I'm not sure there's any way to tell for sure, but you could get a hunch by looking at the pattern of your life over time, in particular your initial, unguarded emotional reaction to situations. As for how it would help, I guess any deep self-knowledge can be helpful, though it does seem that one would need to guard against the tendency to feel superior because of being from elsewhere.

I think it would be cool to be 4D because I would still have a lot of time until I have to fade into 7 and 8D and become everything. Don't think I'm ready for that yet, lol. I wanna hang out with hippies in the fields for a few million years, maybe put happy thoughts into 3Ders for a couple thousand decades. Possibly have a lightsaber battle with a 4D negative sith lord. I'm 22 and reckless so I probably am 4D, haha. Pardon my rambling.

[unity100]

I think it would be cool to be 4D because I would still have a lot of time until I have to fade into 7 and 8D and become everything. Don't think I'm ready for that yet, lol.

that process itself will probably take eternity to complete.

Possibly have a lightsaber battle with a 4D negative sith lord. I'm 22 and reckless so I probably am, haha. Pardon my rambling.

you may be having that, in time/space, other dimensions, or in your dreams. you should pay attention to them.

[Peregrinus]

Yes, I think so. Having now found the antithesis of every emotion, they seek the One. They apparently have no more need for pairs of opposites. I guess they must be close to the end of sixth density.

They are 2.5 million years from the end of their current density.

I wonder what this means for wanderers from Ra. Would they be less likely to be perceived as "good" or "wise" than fourth- or fifth-density wanderers because they don't pursue seemingly positive thoughts or actions?

Rather, they seek to work in the more difficult distortions and select incarnate experiences which will accomplish this.

[βαθμιαίος]

They are 2.5 million years from the end of their current density.

True, and their density is 75 million years long, so they're pretty close to the end.

I wonder what this means for wanderers from Ra. Would they be less likely to be perceived as "good" or "wise" than fourth- or fifth-density wanderers because they don't pursue seemingly positive thoughts or actions?

Rather, they seek to work in the more difficult distortions and select incarnate experiences which will accomplish this.

The two ideas don't contradict each other. The one has to do with how wanderers are perceived, the other with the work they're trying to do.

[Peregrinus]

Agreed, though perception will vary to/of self/other-self to other-self/self, so a blanket statement will not be accurate.

[Sparkle]

"we then felt the great responsibility of staying in the capacity of removing the distortions and powers that had been given to the Law of One."

[Sparkle]

What exactly is polarity?

The polarization in dreams, a few threads down, seems to be a positive thing; a way to know truth in the sort of meditative state that we are in when we sleep.

[Namaste]

What exactly is polarity?

The polarization in dreams, a few threads down, seems to be a positive thing; a way to know truth in the sort of meditative state that we are in when we sleep.

Polarity is the choice we make; positive (service to others - STO), or negative (service to self - STS).

People polarised towards STO are compassionate and caring for other people. Unity and harmony are second nature.

People polarised towards STS are concerned with only their self, often at the expense of others. Separation and segregation are second nature.

Q'uo (a combination of Ra, Latwii and Hatonn) states that this density (third) is the density of choice. Positive or negative. Love or fear. Each decision we make, no mater how small, polarises us towards either STO or STS. It's an ongoing process.

When the cosmic clock hits Dec 2012, our polarisation is 'noted'. If one is 51% or greater STO, they will incarnate next in fourth density positive. A place of harmony, peace and love. If one is 95% or more STS, they will incarnate next in fourth density negative (a dark, dark place). Those who meet neither criteria will repeat another cycle in third density, until they get the the point of choosing and polarising sufficiently.

I would highly recommend reading the Ra Material - Book 1. Here is a link to the free PDF, halfway down the page.

L&L

[Sparkle]

What exactly is polarity?

The polarization in dreams, a few threads down, seems to be a positive thing; a way to know truth in the sort of meditative state that we are in when we sleep.

Polarity is the choice we make; positive (service to others - STO), or negative (service to self - STS).

People polarised towards STO are compassionate and caring for other people. Unity and harmony are second nature.

People polarised towards STS are concerned with only their self, often at the expense of others. Separation and segregation are second nature.

Q'uo (a combination of Ra, Latwii and Hatonn) states that this density (third) is the density of choice. Positive or negative. Love or fear. Each decision we make, no mater how small, polarises us towards either STO or STS. It's an ongoing process.

This is too confusing, unless I am simply working with both polarities. My desire to expose Yahweh for who he really is, places me in the negative polarity, for I am separating myself from people who I used to feel I was in communion of saints with, however there is no fear, which would be the positive polarity. There is sadness, though. Actually, I suppose there is fear - that I am caring too much that I might have a psychotic episode, or already am.

[Aaron]

This is too confusing, unless I am simply working with both polarities. My desire to expose Yahweh for who he really is, places me in the negative polarity, for I am separating myself from people who I used to feel I was in communion of saints with, however there is no fear, which would be the positive polarity. There is sadness, though. Actually, I suppose there is fear - that I am caring too much that I might have a psychotic episode, or already am.

Well, you know, if you worry about going crazy, you'll probably make it there. It's that Law of Attraction thing - whatever you're expecting to occur, fearfully or not, will beget more of the supporting circumstances. That's how you show yourself to yourself, or how the universe shows you yourself. haha!

Are you a little confused about the concept of polarity? I can try to help. If you read through some of the Q'uo material (bring4th --> library button --> library link on left side bar --> purple link "L/L Research Transcripts"), you will eventually get a better grasp on the concept. However, I couldn't find any session where the question "What is polarity?" is outright asked. Meanwhile, here's a quote from Ra that touches barely on polarity, and also ties into their seeking without polarity.

Taken from this page: http://bring4th.org/forums/newreply.php?...&pid=18439

"Let us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were part of the original thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought."

Perhaps Ra seeks without polarity because they now so clearly see the original thought, that their work becomes a merging with it. I think the quote that you posted shows this. In fact, they consider the concept that there is no polarity to be a fundamental part of the Law of One:

From http://lawofone.info/results.php?search_...ic_order=1

"I am Ra. The Law of One, though beyond the limitations of name, as you call vibratory sound complexes, may be approximated by stating that all things are one, that there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only identity. All is one, and that one is love/light, light/love, the Infinite Creator."

Meanwhile, here's a simple definition without referencing any material: Polarity, as far as my own understanding from the Ra and Q'uo material goes, is the intensity of service of the entity (such as yourself) given in one way or the other - positive or negative. Hence, it's a slant, or bias, in the way you handle incoming catalyst, or life situations, and therefore in the way you treat others.

Carla's book gives a sort of a "crash course" on the concepts of the channeled material and the awakened way of living from the perspective of L/L Research. So polarity is explained there to an audience that knows nothing of it. You can buy the book out of the site store at: http://store.bring4th.org/product_info.p...ucts_id=53

Happy hunting!

[Sparkle]

Are you a little confused about the concept of polarity?

Completely

Meanwhile, here's a simple definition without referencing any material: Polarity, as far as my own understanding from the Ra and Q'uo material goes, is the intensity of service of the entity (such as yourself) given in one way or the other - positive or negative. Hence, it's a slant, or bias, in the way you handle incoming catalyst, or life situations, and therefore in the way you treat others.

Thank you.

Maybe you are right, and I can turn my experience into a positive STO, and not make it a STS, by not worrying about my mental condition, and trusting where I am, and what I see around me.

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it's a slant, or bias, in the way you handle incoming catalyst, or life situations

Would you consider this catalyst information that could come in a dream, for example?

[Aaron]

Thank you.

Of course!

Maybe you are right, and I can turn my experience into a positive STO, and not make it a STS, by not worrying about my mental condition, and trusting where I am, and what I see around me.

In the grand scheme of the universe, it'll all about having STO experiences here and STS experiences there, yes, because you are everything, have been everything, will be everything, and all that good stuff. But for the purposes of understanding here in this particular life which you're aware of right now, it may help to come from this perspective: BE an STO (or STS) experiencer, rather than have an experience OF one of the other. That way, you understand it to be your state of being, you concentrate on the situation at hand, and you become more polarized!

Would you consider this catalyst information that could come in a dream, for example?

Oh yes, catalyst is the incoming situation, no matter what your state of consciousness is. You encounter catalyst 24/7/365 until you die! lol It's just that sometimes, it's a lot more intense than at other times.

As an example of polarizing while dreaming, or at least doing energy work while asleep: Yesterday morning as I was just starting to come to a waking state, I heard a young boy's voice say "Are there really angels out there?" I didn't see anything but blackness, but knew he was motioning to the sky, whoever he was. I smiled without moving and spoke without talking, and said "Yes, there certainly are. And you can speak with them too!" After I communicated that, I felt a surge of energy move up my spine, along with what felt like a powerful activation of the heart chakra, and woke up at the same time. My theory is that I didn't consciously try to communicate that, but subconsciously communicated it, and received an increased energy flow in response, which I was more sensitive to because I was just waking.

[Sparkle]

it may help to come from this perspective: BE an STO (or STS) experiencer, rather than have an experience OF one of the other. That way, you understand it to be your state of being, you concentrate on the situation at hand, and you become more polarized!

This is a toughy, I am really not sure which one I would be.

I liked your post, thanks

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As an example of polarizing while dreaming, or at least doing energy work while asleep: Yesterday morning as I was just starting to come to a waking state, I heard a young boy's voice say "Are there really angels out there?" I didn't see anything but blackness, but knew he was motioning to the sky, whoever he was. I smiled without moving and spoke without talking, and said "Yes, there certainly are. And you can speak with them too!" After I communicated that, I felt a surge of energy move up my spine, along with what felt like a powerful activation of the heart chakra, and woke up at the same time.

Btw, thanks for sharing this. I am in the blackness right now, but I know that there are angels in it, this is like a testimony for me

[Namaste]

By the way, thanks for sharing this. I am in the blackness right now, but I know that there are angels in it, this is like a testimony for me

The seeker within you will always spiral towards the light; you'll find the answers you seek and break through with much added understanding of your true self.

Discovering the true self is the eternal dance.

One thing to add about polarity; it does not matter what others polarity is, you have the power to choose for yourself, in any situation, at any time. You decide how to react to the offered catalyst. Follow your heart in these matters and you'll be on the right path :¬)

[Experience You]

By the way, thanks for sharing this. I am in the blackness right now, but I know that there are angels in it, this is like a testimony for me

The seeker within you will always spiral towards the light; you'll find the answers you seek and break through with much added understanding of your true self.

Discovering the true self is the eternal dance.

One thing to add about polarity; it does not matter what others polarity is, you have the power to choose for yourself, in any situation, at any time. You decide how to react to the offered catalyst. Follow your heart in these matters and you'll be on the right path :¬)

I hope i am not imposing myself, if this does not sound right to you please disregard it.

All paths are the "right path", all paths are the ONE experiencing the Now.
Like trough a prism.
I know Ra limits this hmm journey in polarities of Self versus other self paths, and they are real, not because they are the only realities in existence but because they certainly valid ways of expressing the Self both are distortions though.(And Ra knows that)

I find that all Existence goes back to the I AM state , the first thought, the closest thing to non-existence we have and yet what embraces everything, It is a paradox.

There are infinite realities, infinite states of being and non being.Everything that is under the sun and beyond.

I feel this and that is why i don't polarize myself in Self versus Other selfs , as far as i am concerned it all the same thing.

I do not try to polarize myself as STO or STS but to Me Myself as much as i can, to be AWARE as much as I AM.

Because isn't the whole polarity game based on SELF ?
Ways to explain Self and experience Self. Both are distortions. Indeed everything is a distortion but it serves the purpose of the experience of the I AM.

Infinite back and forth.

In being me i serve ME that is all there is to it.

Life is good.

Amen

[Experience You]

I would like to add that although i don't try to be this Polarity or that polarity.

I try to be authentic and honest as i can, which in itself might be towards a polarity, but i am not caring about it.

The point is All serve ONE and the ONE is ALL.

We all will get there, have been there and are there.

So yea

Love E

[Aaron]

Experience, I don't mean to come off in a rude sounding way, but I think you may be limiting yourself. I don't know what your path of seeking entails, and there's no way for me to know, but I can offer you this viewpoint on seeking without polarity in this everyday life.

From the much broader overview of 6th density, it's obvious that this entire planet and all its lifeforms are just one stroke of a paintbrush across a canvas, part of the universal project of creating a masterpiece. From the 6th density, it's easy to see that all of earth, your human life included, is just a process. You, as a hyper-aware human, have become aware that you are part of a process. When this happened to me, I realized that both for greater fulfillment and progress on the spiritual path, I needed to polarize as efficiently as I could! However, the same thing has happened to you, and you seem to take no interest in polarization.

I believe it's missing the point for the paint on the paintbrush to say "Since I am now aware I am part of the stroke of the brush, there is no need for me to try to adhere to this canvas." (kind of a poor analogy, but you get my point hopefully! lol) If you put no passion, no spirit into your life experience, you limit yourself, I believe! To gain experience is to gain polarization. You can't have one without the other.

If I'm not speaking your spiritual language here, please disregard. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong - that's preposterous. I'm simply sharing my point of view based on my experience.

[Experience You]

Maybe i explained myself wrong, i don't care about polarities because they are all me.
I might as well be STO mostly right now. I am just following my guidance.
But i am not worried.

In being me in this moment, as authentic i can be. That's all i care. Or try to.

Integration is positive polarization.

I trust my inner being. If polarization is what comes from that guidance then that is natural, i am not forcing it.

I hope you understand my perspective a little more now.

[Aaron]

In being me in this moment, what is important is to follow my guidance every moment, as authentic i can be.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I also think your non-coercive and accepting attitude is a very useful and efficient one to have as you make your way through life.

I was only trying to point out something I thought you may have missed. But it looks like you already understand! Maybe I interpreted your post wrong.

Ah well, vis-a-vis! hehe