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Doing "work," STO, STS - Adonai One - 06-29-2014 Work - Catalyst accepted towards a certain desire Service-to-others - Work towards reaching the desire of universal acceptance of all people and their desires Service-to-self: Work towards only reaching the desires of the self regardless of others Are these definitions agreeable? RE: Doing "work," STO, STS - Patrick - 06-29-2014 (06-29-2014, 06:27 PM)Adonai One Wrote: Work - Catalyst accepted towards a certain desire Nope For me, the hallmark of STS is "at the expanse of others" part. Working towards only reaching the desires of the self regardless of others is STO. Selfishness is not STS. If you are not exploiting others for your personal benefit you are not walking the STS path. RE: Doing "work," STO, STS - Bring4th_Austin - 06-30-2014 I basically agree, given Patrick's addendum. I think it's an important point that 3rd density, being the density of social interaction, is heavily based on social interaction, and so most polarization will take place through this means. A truly adept Service to Self individual would know exactly how to use and manipulate "all which are in relationship to it," similarly to how a Service to Others adept would "love all which are in relationship to it." Also, I wouldn't classify work as "catalyst accepted" for both polarizations, as Ra describes: "Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst." But if you substitute "acceptance" and instead say "use of catalyst towards a certain desire," then I think that works. I also think that, from that point, "work" can be broken down based on what stage of development an individual is in. If one carries many imbalances and biases (within their chakras), work could likely refer to something like the balancing exercises that Ra gives. Typically a person with significant imbalances will be experiencing intensive and continuous catalyst. Work could also be a general striving to "understand the self," a la the teachings Ra gives in 5.2 (in 5.2, this information is given as steps to begin learning to heal, but in 15.14, Ra says these exercises can be used in a more general sense). I suppose the word "work" could also be substituted for "learning/teaching." I think this passage is a good example of work which is learning/teaching: Quote:42.2 Doing any of this kind of work, for a positive individual, would ultimately be as you pointed out: moving towards "the desire of universal acceptance of all." That is the ultimate goal, met with smaller goals such as balancing a current imbalance, or accepting a current catalyst. RE: Doing "work," STO, STS - xise - 07-01-2014 I actually agree with the statement that STS is "of the self, regardless of others" instead of "at the expense of others." Though in practice, at least in 3D & 4D, I think it's easy for regardless of others to become at the expense of others. Mild support exists in at least one quotation for this in Ra's description of 5th Density Negative 'Orion' Entities that is at the end. However, I'm not sure I agree with putting everything in terms of 'desire.' Nor do I think I agree with putting the STO path only in terms of acceptance - I think understanding and many other subconcepts of love are fairly crucial and distinct from acceptance. However, acceptance for sto and desire in general are primary concepts in polarity work. In short, I think the definitions are workable A1 but I'm not sure I agree completely because of those two issues described above. Quote:48.6 Questioner: Thank you. That cleared it up very well. A very important point. Can you tell me how positive and negative polarizations in fourth and fifth density are used to cause work in consciousness? RE: Doing "work," STO, STS - ChickenInSpace - 07-01-2014 I would even go so far as to say: "Work - Catalyst accepted" But neither this nor the original is, I feel, a good total summary. What is healing in regard to "Catalyst accepted towards a certain desire"? What is control in regard to this? I don't have any good answers, personally. RE: Doing "work," STO, STS - kycahi - 07-01-2014 Work - the endeavoring to accomplish something ST0 - working to show acceptance of all others and sometimes gently offering guidance STS - working to gain control of others by convincing them of my correctness That definition of work might meet with Physics Professor Elkins's approval. To help differentiate the definition of STS with pure selfishness, consider polarity: I don't gain STS polarity by being more selfish; I gain it by having more dedicated followers. RE: Doing "work," STO, STS - Spaced - 07-01-2014 Our language already has a definition for work: Activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result. Isn't that acceptable? Also I think we should note the "service" part of Service-to-others and Service-to-self. Service-to-others isn't really about accepting everything, it's about serving everything, and likewise Service-to-self is about being self serving. so maybe STO - Orientation of mental or physical effort towards serving all creation. STS - Orientation of mental or physical effort toward serving self. Gets iffy though, since I'm sure at least some STS entities believe they are serving all creation as well. |