Quote:There is a big difference between believing in a concept of love and the actual experience of love

(01-04-2014, 11:44 AM)Steppenwolf Wrote: Why would we want a 3d planet to be at 100% peace?

Quote:89.31 Questioner: What techniques did the two negatively harvested entities use for negative polarization on such a positively polarized planet?

Ra: I am Ra. The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases. Upon a planetary influence much unused to slaughter these entities were able to polarize by this means. Upon your third-density environment at the time of your experiencing such entities would merely be considered, shall we say, ruthless despots which waged the holy war.

(01-04-2014, 10:21 AM)Tanner Wrote: There is a big difference between believing in a concept of love and the actual experience of love, imo. The problem with such an approach is that there would be rampant ideas of love and likely little actual experience as love cannot be indoctrinated.

(01-04-2014, 03:06 PM)Adonai One Wrote: I have one thing left to say: Indoctrination is what most of this planet has known in terms of "education." I remain to believe one can indoctrinate truth.

Most of this planet's "beliefs" are very well forced.

(01-04-2014, 02:32 PM)rie Wrote: You can manipulate people into believing it by framing it in ways that people may digest.

(01-04-2014, 03:55 PM)rie Wrote: Like if the Law of One being this truth, we may refine our love and light to vibrate closer to it as we develop within and throughout the densities (correct?), and so it is a vibrational congruency that allows us to experience or understand this truth. Exploration of our desire from unconscious is so laden with distortions that it must be consciously understood and let go to progress thru the developmental process. In doing so we have choice to go with understandings that are more distilled towards the truth. Am I missing the mark here zen master?

(01-04-2014, 03:24 PM)primordial abyss Wrote: you will be able to find followers with your brand of 'love' if that is what they/you are seeking, you know this very well.

(01-04-2014, 04:35 PM)michael430 Wrote: Are holy wars on Venus mentioned in the Ra material?

Quote:89.27 Questioner: Were some of Ra’s population negatively harvested at the end of Ra’s third density?

Ra: I am Ra. We had no negative harvest as such although there had been two entities which had harvested themselves during the third density in the negative or service-to-self path. There were, however, those upon the planetary surface during third density whose vibratory patterns were in the negative range but were not harvestable.

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89.31 Questioner: What techniques did the two negatively harvested entities use for negative polarization on such a positively polarized planet?

Ra: I am Ra. The technique of control over others and domination unto the physical death was used in both cases. Upon a planetary influence much unused to slaughter these entities were able to polarize by this means. Upon your third-density environment at the time of your experiencing such entities would merely be considered, shall we say, ruthless despots which waged the holy war.

89.32 Questioner: Did these two entities evolve from the second density of the planet Venus along with the rest of the population of Venus that became Ra from second density to third?

Ra: I am Ra. No.

89.33 Questioner: What was the origin of the two entities of which you speak?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities were Wanderers from early positive fifth density.

89.34 Questioner: And yet, though they had already evolved through a positive fourth density they, shall we say, flipped polarity in the reincarnating in third density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

89.35 Questioner: What was the catalyst for their change?

Ra: I am Ra. In our peoples there was what may be considered, from the viewpoint of wisdom, an overabundance of love. These entities looked at those still in darkness and saw that those of a neutral or somewhat negative viewpoint found such harmony, shall we say, sickening. The Wanderers felt that a more wisdom-oriented way of seeking love could be more appealing to those in darkness.

First one entity began its work. Quickly the second found the first. These entities had agreed to serve together and so they did, glorifying the One Creator, but not as they intended. About them were soon gathered those who found it easy to believe that a series of specific knowledges and wisdoms would advance one towards the Creator. The end of this was the graduation into fourth-density negative of the Wanderers, which had much power of personality, and some small deepening of the negatively polarized element of those not polarizing positively. There was no negative harvest as such.

89.36 Questioner: What was the reason for the wandering of these two Wanderers, and were they male and female?

Ra: I am Ra. All Wanderers come to be of assistance in serving the Creator, each in its own way. The Wanderers of which we have been speaking were indeed incarnated male and female as this is by far the most efficient system of partnership.

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89.38 Questioner: Then from what you say I am guessing that these Wanderers returned or wandered to Ra’s third density to possibly seed greater wisdom into what they saw as an overabundance of compassion in the Ra culture. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect in the sense that before incarnation it was the desire of the Wanderers only to aid in service to others. The query has correctness when seen from the viewpoint of the Wanderers within that incarnation.

89.39 Questioner: I just can’t understand why they would think that a planet that was doing as well as Ra was doing as far as I can tell would need Wanderers in order to help with a harvest. Was this at an early point in Ra’s third density?

Ra: I am Ra. It was in the second cycle of 25,000 years. We had a harvest of six out of thirty, to speak roughly, millions of mind/body/spirit complexes, less than 20%. Wanderers are always drawn to whatever percentage has not yet polarized, and come when there is a call. There was a call from those which were not positively polarized as such but which sought to be positively polarized and sought wisdom, feeling the compassion of other-selves upon Venus as complacent or pitying towards other-selves.

89.40 Questioner: What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into fourth-density negative and, the veil being removed, they realized that they had switched polarities?

Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted.

89.41 Questioner: Then did they continue striving to polarize negatively for a fifth-density negative harvest or did they do something else?

Ra: I am Ra. They worked with the fourth-density negative for some period until, within this framework, the previously learned patterns of the self had been recaptured and the polarity was, with great effort, reversed. There was a great deal of fourth-density positive work then to be retraced.

89.42 Questioner: How is Ra aware of this information? By what means does Ra know the precise orientation of these two entities in fourth-density negative, etc.?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities joined Ra in fourth-density positive for a portion of the cycle which we experienced.

(01-04-2014, 03:06 PM)Adonai One Wrote: I have one thing left to say: Indoctrination is what most of this planet has known in terms of "education." I remain to believe one can indoctrinate truth.

Most of this planet's "beliefs" are very well forced.