Julian Walker, 10 Obstacles to Sane Spirituality……or 10 Portals Beyond New Age Delusion. Wrote:the basic tenets of the New Age belief system can be understood as an elaborate psychological defense system that is actually in the way of the work with which a transformative, healing and sane spirituality is concerned.

Quote:...By this logic channeling aliens and E=mc2 are claims of equal value with there being no way of saying whether either is actually true. By this logic female genital mutilation is not morally wrong because who are we to judge the customs of another culture – I mean those girls and women might be happier in their context than “free” women in the oppression of our consumerist objectified rat race, right?!

Wrong...

(01-16-2014, 09:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: What he is suggesting is that people put the cart before the horse due to misuse of the notion as an ideology. It is the mere possibility taken for granted without the prior consciousness which is why there is confusion. Basing judgment on that confusion is part of dishonest practices to which he is referring - hence the point he made which he understood all too well.

(01-16-2014, 10:07 PM)Patrick Wrote:

(01-16-2014, 09:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: What he is suggesting is that people put the cart before the horse due to misuse of the notion as an ideology. It is the mere possibility taken for granted without the prior consciousness which is why there is confusion. Basing judgment on that confusion is part of dishonest practices to which he is referring - hence the point he made which he understood all too well.

Yes I see it now. I am re-reading the article more in depth. But still I believe he is overgeneralizing; "New Age" as a whole is pejoratively portrayed. I get what he is saying, but I believe the format is not helping the delivery of his message.

Anthony Garrett Wrote:On the large scale, history shows that an uncritical and misinformed populace is a breeding ground for all manner of intolerant beliefs and practices. The discovery that truth has to fight for its survival is not a pleasant one, but is an essential realization in maintaining civilization. And in a society as open and susceptible to fraud as ours is, truth needs all the help it can get.

From the article Wrote:...We all create our own reality and it is impossible to get outside of the lens through which you have been conditioned to perceive. What is true for you may not be true for me...

(01-17-2014, 10:25 PM)Patrick Wrote: And then I'm wondering what relationship, if any, does "Sane Spirituality" have with science per se ? And if so what form does it take ?

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• The Fiefdoms of Power Cycle (pg. 105) is the 3rd value system - the Red System in Spiral Dynamics theory, and the first cycle detailed in MEMEnomics. This was an era that lasted from the end of the United States Civil War to the middle of the Great Depression when a few men built an entire economy. These the values of the individualistic Red System that are identified as egocentrism, heroism, and feudalism.
  
  
• The Patriotic Prosperity Cycle (pg. 108) was a MEMEnomic era that lasted from the mid-1930s till the late 1970s. It is identified with the values of the communal 4th system - the Blue System of righteous living, law and order, the one-true-way and heavy regulation.
  
  
• The Only Money Matters Cycle (pg. 125) was a MEMEnomic era that started in the early 1980s and is going through the entropy and collapse phase during this decade (2010-2020). It is identified with the values of the individualistic 5th value system - the Orange System of strategic enterprise, personal advancement and resource manipulation. Dawlabani posits that the Financial Innovation expression of this cycle falls outside the normal economic emergence cycles as money decouples from its historic relationship to human productive output.
  
  
• The Democratization of Information Cycle (pg. 158) aligns with a 6th level Green value system. The United States entered the embryonic phase of this MEMEnomic era in the 1990s and transitioned fully into the growth phase following the financial crisis of 2008. It is identified with the communal Green System of egalitarian and humanitarian values, seeking the equal distribution of information, knowledge and resources.
  

Dawlabani explains why, although advanced cultures and economies around the world do welcome the virtues of the Fourth MEMEnomics Cycle, the values of the 6th level Green System cannot be sustained in the long term. The framework indicates that, although each new system fills the gaps created by preceding systems, the First Tier systems fail to see the complexity or contribution of other value systems and are resistant to integration. The very nature of the Green communal system believes that egalitarianism is the highest virtue humanity can achieve. It dismisses the entire hierarchy below it, victimizes the Red system and blames the Blue and Orange systems. This phenomenon is what Don Beck and integral philosopher Ken Wilber call the "Mean Green Meme".

Dawlabani argues that the mandate of this cycle is already beginning to create problems that the current system cannot solve. The democratization of information through the internet, social media, cell phone cameras and YouTube, and the coming of age of digital manufacturing and 3-D printing are all ushering horizontal economies and unprecedented transparency that is creating disruption and chaos everywhere. These problems, Dawlabani argues can only be solved from the next system, which is a part of his fifth MEMEnomic Cycle

The future Fifth MEMEnomic Cycle
In the last five chapters of the book, Dawlabani designs a new economic system. Emerging societal values at this time in history are not based on the subsistence economy and the subsistence ethic, but the values of what he calls a magnificence of existence ethic (pg. 170).

The Fifth MEMEnomic Cycle is based on the big picture views of the 7th value system - the Yellow System. This is the first level of the Second Tier systems and presents a significant breakthrough change in perspective within the Graves/Spiral Dynamics framework. It is what Graves called Humanity's Momentous Leap...

1. 1. I had been a working guest from abroad volunteering in his cult-commune Xanthyros in Vancouver for 4-5 weeks (March-Easter 1991).
   2. At my last meeting with RAM's shadow bearers I turned down his request to set up his German dependence.
   Instead of bidding me farewell, all three of them screamed at me bullying me for my decision.
   3. In a 17 page long feedback letter I had predicted that Xanthyros would fall apart (which did happen in 1994). No reply was issued to it.
   4. 20+ years later I met RAM for the second time on his Facebook "fan" page.

1. 1. He turned off the cult-related thread from Google view by transfering it to the less frequented Facebook rubric "Activities of friends" concealing the "activity" he had initiated.
   2. He deleted one of my critical posts, unwilling to "appreciate the dirt" (as suggested by him for those on the spiritual path).
   3. He informed me per PM about this deletion act and offered to handle the issue privately. No more answers were given.
   4. A year later - the discussion had continued (without him) for two weeks. Once he discovered that he deleted all my posts on this (still existing gutted) thread. http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Wiki/RobertAugustusMasters#toc9
   5. As expected, he blocked me from posting, liking, or sharing anything from his Facebook page.