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Escaping the nine to five - Spaced - 04-25-2013 I do not believe my reason for incarnating here was to expend my energy on 40 hour workweeks for companies I don't even like, but due to the need for money to pay bills and rent and buy food I find myself unable to break free from this system. It wouldn't be so bad if I had the energy to pursue my own projects but I don't have a lot of energy to begin with so after a long work shift all I want to do is read or stare at a computer screen. I suppose it doesn't help that since I do not have a post-secondary education the only jobs I can find are low paying manual labour type ones. What I want to know is if anybody has managed to find a way to secure a living without having to sell their labour? The common bit of advice is "follow your passion" but it seems my passion is sitting around and contemplating things or else exploring new concepts and I am not sure how I can monetize that ![]() I have been getting very sad these days because a part of me feels like I am "missing the boat" and my dreams tell me the same thing. It feels like I am wasting time and that I should be doing something other than this silly job. RE: Escaping the nine to five - 3nT - 04-25-2013 (04-25-2013, 12:23 PM)Spaced Wrote: I do not believe my reason for incarnating here was to expend my energy on 40 hour workweeks for companies I don't even like, but due to the need for money to pay bills and rent and buy food I find myself unable to break free from this system. It wouldn't be so bad if I had the energy to pursue my own projects but I don't have a lot of energy to begin with so after a long work shift all I want to do is read or stare at a computer screen. I suppose it doesn't help that since I do not have a post-secondary education the only jobs I can find are low paying manual labour type ones. It all starts with us! Just the idea of a more humane system is a huge step. I have ponder this my self, but I love what I do, and I tend to work more than 50 hours a week. What I noticed is that it all goes back to the monetary system we have. Ra mentioned something in regards to this. RE: Escaping the nine to five - vervex - 04-25-2013 Lovely topic Spaced! I totally understand what you're talking about: most people are stuck in the 9-5 routine and when they get home, they are so tired they don't have the motivation to do anything. Most jobs will squeeze out from their employees all their energy and it takes extra motivation and ambition to get anything done at home. That is how (and why) this system was built and it's been working splendidly since the industrial revolution. It's a masterpiece of control and limitation ![]() That being said, I completely agree about the "follow your passion" advice. We were not made to spend 40 hours/week doing something we dislike and too often something that doesn't serve anyone but the wealthy CEO of company (unless that's what makes our heart sing, of course - there are exceptions). The advice "follow your passion" means the following: 1. Find what you like to do most. Ask yourself these questions: What are your hobbies? If you could be doing anything right now, what would you be doing? If you had to help people around you, how would you choose to do it? And what are your skills? 2. Write down your answers on paper and contemplate them. Circle the ones that resonate most. Which make your heart tingle? 3. Ask yourself, can I make a living out of this? And how? Now part 3 is tricky because most people will be fearful when it comes to thinking outside the box. They are scared of the unknown, and working on your own as a self-employed person means embracing some level of unknown. It also means embracing freedom and empowerment though. Almost all freelancers and independent workers will tell you it's worth it and they usually don't look back. Here are some examples of how part 3 can go: - I like cooking a lot, and experimenting with food. Possibilities: Taking a cooking class, joining a cooking club, opening a restaurant or joining a cooking project that motivates you. - I like skiing a lot and I also enjoy doing acrobatics. Possibilities: Becoming an athlete, beginning a video project online where you display your prowesses, participating to contests, becoming a skiing instructor. - I love decorating my house and giving personality to each room. Possibilities: Taking an interior design class, becoming a design consultant, becoming an interior designer. To make it work, to get out of the 9-5 world, we have to be willing to make the first step. It's not easy, but the alternative is remaining miserable for the rest of your life. That alone should be a great motivator to get you going and embracing your dreams ![]() In case you're interested, I wrote an article on my blog a few weeks ago about that exact topic, right here: http://veo.li/11sMHrn And in case you wonder about my own experience, I'm a freelancer and co-founder of my own little design studio. We're two people, my fiancé and I, and we make a living. There were some rough patches, but we always get through. There is work, but we love what we do. There are deadlines, but our schedule is very flexible. And there are contracts, but we can always say "no" to a project we don't want. Basically, everything is great! I'm an illustrator, graphic designer and web designer, he's a programmer and web developer. We built our dream together because that's what makes us happy. We're creative and we love to help people, and this is a way to do both. Prior to this, I worked part-time jobs since I was 15 years old, and the total of jobs I had is around 12-13, the last and best "hired" job being at Apple Retail, working as a one to one teacher and iPhone/iPad/iPod tech person. When I graduated from university however at age 22 and finally had my diploma in hand, I gave my goodbyes to the hired world and dedicated myself fully to our company. I'm 24 now, very happy and the company's doing well. Hope you can realize your dreams too Spaced, and everyone who's in the same place as you ![]() ![]() Edit: edited some typos. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Spaced - 04-25-2013 Thanks for that response vervex, it was quite inspiring to me. My girlfriend and I have been toying with some ideas for creative projects but it's always my fear of taking the first step that holds us back . . . I think I'm finally getting to a point where I won't be scared to express myself anymore *fingers crossed*. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Monica - 04-25-2013 Yes!!! A few years ago, that could have been me writing what you just wrote. I worked in IT (computer programming) and sat in a small grey cube all day, staring at a computer screen. I had some interaction with others, but my passion - helping people and doing something to truly make a difference in the world - was totally suppressed. I remember very clearly thinking "Is this it? Is this what I came here to do? Is there nothing else I can do to make a difference?" For many years, I tried very hard to just accept my situation and make the best of it. I tried to be a shining light wherever I was...bloom where I was planted. And I know that I did help others, occasionally, in small ways. Co-workers sometimes cried on my shoulder, etc. But I felt very unfulfilled, like there was something much more important I was supposed to be doing. I had very little free time to meditate, volunteer at the animal shelter, or pursue whatever else I was interested in. I felt like my life revolved around my job. Not only that, but there was corruption going on in the workplace, and that make it even harder! It was very difficult for me to look the other way, but when I tried to do something about it, it just backfired. I truly felt like I had sold my soul just to survive! I knew there were ways to make a living by following one's passion, but I felt afraid to let go of the security blanket. We weren't poor but were living from paycheck to paycheck, so there was nothing to fall back on...no cushion...and no family to help us temporarily if need be. So I carried on, miserable! But then, it got decided for me! I got laid off! My job had been outsourced to programmers in India. At first, I was devastated! What now? Technology had changed and there were very few opportunities for mainframe programmers. The idea of going back to school to learn the new internet-based programming, for a drastic cut in pay, wasn't very appealing. So I took a job as office manager for an insurance agent, for a drastic cut in pay. Again, I was miserable! Meanwhile, I was having severe health problems. I got a water ionizer machine, which saved my life. The life-threatening heart problems, digestive complaints, chronic females problems, acid reflux, and other ailments I'd struggled with for 15 years cleared up either 100% or 90% within 3 months! My elderly dog, who could barely walk due to severe arthritis pain, started running around like a puppy, and was no longer blind! Needless to say, I started shouting from the rooftops! Who wouldn't? I told many people about this powerful water, and some of them got a machine for themselves. I started getting phone calls and emails from people telling me their fibromyalgia pain had disappeared and they were no longer bedridden, they'd eliminated all their medications, including high blood pressure, cholesterol and even diabetes meds in some cases, my schizophrenic niece quit hearing voices, a friend with advanced stage cancer got off his deathbed, and many other equally astounding stories! These were all real people whom I knew personally! Finally, I had found something I could believe in, and work that could truly make a profound difference in people's lives! It is no exaggeration to say that some people even claimed that this water had saved their lives. It certainly did save mine! As a bonus, the international medical manufacturing company paid me quite generously to share the info about the water. After I got laid off, we were on the verge of bankruptcy. And even when the commission checks started rolling in, I still hesitated about quitting my insurance job, because that at least was somewhat stable, whereas this was commission only. But what helped me was remembering something Q'uo had said about them being ready to help us once we made a choice, and about having faith. So I took a leap of faith and let go! I just trusted that if I followed my heart, it would work out. This was huge because I'd never been able to do that before! It worked! Within 2 years of working this business part-time, we were able to get caught up on bills, pay off our house early, pay for some major repairs on our house, pay for a new fence cash, etc. I am now living my dream! Some distributors make more $$ than I do because they work the biz full time, but I enjoy working just part-time, and I still earn waaaay more than I ever did in IT. I enjoy being able to spend time with family, putter around in my garden, do stuff like host Carla's radio show, etc. I can do what I want, when I want. If I want to spend an hour on the phone helping someone, I can. If I want to volunteer somewhere, I can. But most importantly, I'm no longer working to keep an obsolete, usury-based $$ system in place. I'm now part of the solution! I am part of a community of people who are working to help raise awareness of preventative and alternative healthcare, to transform the old, corrupt medical system (that is clearly NOT working! The US ranks #46 in the world for health and longevity). Best of all, my company has a lot of ![]() I LOVE IT!!! I ![]() ![]() ![]() I spend time on it but I don't really think of it as 'selling my labor' because it's a labor of love...it's what I would do anyway even if I didn't get paid. I mean, if you had a friend or family member sick or in pain, and you knew of a virtually surefire way to help them, you'd tell them, right? That's not exactly labor, right? The income that comes in isn't based on an exchange of time for money. I am often paid large amounts of $$ for just 2 hours' work. Then I can coast for a few weeks at a time if I want to. This is what I do: educate people who wish to have this info: http://crystalightwater.info/ I'm always on the lookout for people who might want to join my team, so I invite you to check it out. I'm sharing my story as an example. YES, it is possible to follow your passion and still make a good living! RE: Escaping the nine to five - Marc - 04-25-2013 It would appear I struggle in this same area. I want to run away and live in the forest. This whole system is madness! For me, I feel like I don't even know how to start my dream, and I'm still in the developing stages of it. I want to leave the earth a better place. It is just the aligning and finding out what I desire and how to get there, that I struggle with. I want to get into permaculture design and restore barren landscapes back to greenery. But the 'how' of getting there is where I struggle. I am learning as much as I can about natural Eco-systems and restoring them, but getting it started leaves me at a loss.. RE: Escaping the nine to five - reeay - 04-25-2013 I personally don't do well with predicable and repetitive type jobs so I look for adventure and unpredictability lol. And, typically work involves substantial out-of-office work either thru short distance (travel by car) or long distance (travel by plane) movement. And, if it involves issues that I am passionate about, I'm there working extra hours. Work isn't necessarily fun for me, it's something that comes naturally and something I've put my love and will into to hone my skills. Lots of challenges. So my question: What is your gift that you may have brought with you into this life? RE: Escaping the nine to five - ScottK - 04-25-2013 Hi there Spaced.. First thing I would say is that you have already learned plenty. You have learned much about the repression and control that currently dominates this world. You've probably also learned to balance the need for material things and the consequences of that need versus your desire for freedom and happiness. Given a choice, I don't think you would create the world as it is now - you would probably create a much friendlier, much happier world given the chance - your small little piece of the world. Currently though, most of the population seems to be working within their part of the prison - perpetuating an inhuman system which has run amuck. Look around you at national and international news. Let's just say that the emperor is currently disrobing, and they will soon have no clothes on.. The financial system should also break rather spectacularly in the not all that distant future. In the upcoming time of transition, we will all have the opportunity to slowly make the world a better place - all of us in our own unique way. In my view, that's why we are here. It will be hard work. Use your experience with what doesn't appeal to you to create with others that which does. Currently, you likely feel quite powerless to change much of anything, but I doubt that feeling will last much longer. Dolores Cannon would say that we came to Earth to learn "limitation". We certainly have received a heavy dose of that lesson. ![]() Here's a channeling from Quo on the topic you bring up, however, as I read it, I kinda think Quo is somewhat out of touch with our reality. ![]() http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1993/1993_0912.aspx RE: Escaping the nine to five - Sagittarius - 04-25-2013 (04-25-2013, 06:13 PM)rie Wrote: I personally don't do well with predicable and repetitive type jobs so I look for adventure and unpredictability lol. And, typically work involves substantial out-of-office work either thru short distance (travel by car) or long distance (travel by plane) movement. And, if it involves issues that I am passionate about, I'm there working extra hours. Work isn't necessarily fun for me, it's something that comes naturally and something I've put my love and will into to hone my skills. Lots of challenges. What do you do specifically Rie? I know your a psychologist. RE: Escaping the nine to five - reeay - 04-25-2013 An almost-psychologist lol... one paperwork away. I used to work in the public health field doing community health education work in the pacific islands. Then I worked as a therapist on various islands in Hawaii and also did home & community based therapy work in another state. Is this somethng you're interested in too, Sagittarius? Travel, psychology, etc. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Sagittarius - 04-25-2013 Indeed I start my psychology degree in June. At the moment with no real experience I'am leaning towards clinical, both because I enjoy helping people face to face and also because I feel like that would give me the most exposure to other selves which would in turn teach me a lot about self. But I'am open to whatever, if I didn't get into psychology I probably would have done a degree in social work. How have your experiences treating people been? RE: Escaping the nine to five - vervex - 04-25-2013 Love your story Monica! Truly beautiful and inspiring! Reading stories of people who've found their own passion makes me really happy, thanks for sharing it! ![]() RE: Escaping the nine to five - Monica - 04-25-2013 (04-25-2013, 10:10 PM)vervex Wrote: Love your story Monica! Truly beautiful and inspiring! Reading stories of people who've found their own passion makes me really happy, thanks for sharing it! ![]() ![]() RE: Escaping the nine to five - jacrob - 04-25-2013 Spaced I know what you mean...however a couple of years ago I hated my job so much I created the situation where I had no job, no money, nearly lost my apartment, terrible depression. So firstly I would say be very grateful for your job, it's giving you money while you work out what you really want to do. I had a psychic reading a few weeks ago and a message came through from my dead grandpa which was: be grateful for my job and use the time to figure out what I really want to do. Save my money and use it to do short courses. When the time is right I should moonlight and do both jobs until I build up enough of a belief that my passion can support me financially. In saying that I lacked alot of energy too. I had a shift of some sort 2 months ago where I'm really happy most of the time. All the sadness drains one's energy. It also makes you lose your passion. I remember listening to Bashar and him saying to live my greatest excitement, and absolutley nothing excited me. Ask your guides to help you monitor your thoughts and change your thought pattern. It's really difficult at first but you'll get there. Smile all the time...it does something. Eventually you will create/draw to yourself positive work/life experiences. Lastly I notice in one of your other replies you mention you were eating alot. I feel you need emotional comfort. You need to love yourself and be kind to yourself. Forgive yourself for the life you created. Don't beat yourself up. Get yourself a rose quartz hand holder. You'll get there brother, I know it! Good luck. RE: Escaping the nine to five - reeay - 04-25-2013 (04-25-2013, 09:21 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: How have your experiences treating people been? Best wishes on your new journey! I did clinical psych... but am not keen on being a psychiatrist wannabe lol. You may gain more broad range skill sets w/ clinical compared to other disciplines e.g., counseling, marriage&family, or social work. No need for a doctorate, too, unless you want to get into administrative type work or research. Treatment is the most challenging skill set to use. A great way to learn is to go to therapy with a good therapist! My personal experience has been positive. Personal work is v. important in this type of work. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Aureus - 04-26-2013 I'm in your position right now, don't like it. My job is quite physically demanding, not that I'm a powerlifter but the movements are incredibly repetitive and will eventually cause long-term injuries. So, I signed up for a course in Life Coaching.. Basically helping others with 3D lessons. Having ,relatively speaking, loads of experience in introspection, the key questions come naturally.(Coaching is about asking, not telling). RE: Escaping the nine to five - Dinko - 04-26-2013 (04-25-2013, 12:23 PM)Spaced Wrote: I do not believe my reason for incarnating here was to expend my energy on 40 hour workweeks for companies I don't even like, but due to the need for money to pay bills and rent and buy food I find myself unable to break free from this system. It wouldn't be so bad if I had the energy to pursue my own projects but I don't have a lot of energy to begin with so after a long work shift all I want to do is read or stare at a computer screen. I suppose it doesn't help that since I do not have a post-secondary education the only jobs I can find are low paying manual labour type ones.god told me follow your joy only... you are will be taken care of RE: Escaping the nine to five - Parsons - 04-27-2013 I have contemplated this issue deeply nearly non-stop since I awoke. At that time, I was living off my medical settlement in an apartment by myself. I was not consciously aware that I was still depressed and somewhat still suicidal, yet I was happier than I had ever been previously. I was also unaware that I had much work to do on acceptance, especially specifically the need of providing for oneself on this world. I have since finally made enormous headway in all areas listed, especially acceptance that I may have to spend most of my time doing a meaningless job for a corporation that serves no meaningful purpose for the majority of this incarnation with 80-90% of my incoming going to bills. I now feel it a delightful opportunity to have an extremely fruitful incarnation of learning, polarizing and simply helping others. ![]() The world seems to have much promise in improving in general in several different areas which would improve the plight of needing to work for a living. I know it might sound like gadgetry, but imagine a device which would provide 3-4 kilowatts of power for your home and your electric- engine car. You would only have to purchase the unit, then pay maintenance on it to enjoy a benefit of virtually non-existent energy costs. Also, the added benefit of making virtually no air polution for powering your house and your car. Or imagine services like Google Fiber coming to every city in the US (or maybe the world?) the option to pay a fee of $300 (or $25 for 12 months) for installation of 5megabit internet which will have no monthly fee. In combination of the last two examples, if you also own your residence, you would only need to work in an extremely reduced fashion since your bills would be very low. I am hopeful but not "needing" of society to improve in any area just mentioned. All that aside, I certainly wouldn't mind a job coming my way which aides others in some way. I am limited physically by my inability to stand for extensive periods of time, so it would have to be a sit down job. /shrug RE: Escaping the nine to five - norral - 04-27-2013 spaced remember my brother the whole world lies within u. there is unlimited potential there within u and all of us. ask the universe to show u the way , it will respond. we are in the process of creating a new way of doing things and part of that new way is to follow your bliss instead of what we do now which is to follow our security. u can do ive seen people materialize positions and change their whole life around. norral ![]() RE: Escaping the nine to five - Monica - 04-27-2013 (04-27-2013, 01:05 AM)Parsons Wrote: acceptance that I may have to spend most of my time doing a meaningless job for a corporation that serves no meaningful purpose for the majority of this incarnation with 80-90% of my incoming going to bills. I think each of us must seek our own personal guidance as to whether it's appropriate for us to accept our situation in a 'meaningless' job. If one is learning, growing, and serving others in that environment, then it's not 'meaningless.' Surely, some who are awake may be called to work in a 'meaningless job' because, for them, while the job itself might be meaningless, they are still able to service the people in that environment, in which case, they will know if their light is shining the way for others and actually doing some good in the world. For example, the cheerful co-worker who always brightens everyone's day, and provides a compassionate shoulder to cry on for his/her co-workers...such a person might make a tremendous difference in that 'meaningless' job environment. For others, however, such as myself, although I tried to be that cheerful person, and did succeed somewhat (my co-workers at one of my jobs called me 'Sunshine!'), there was simply more for me to do; I had important work elsewhere that was calling to me, and I finally found it. If one feels a pull, a call, a yearning to participate in moving mountains and truly being involved in transformational projects, there are plenty to choose from. It just takes a leap of faith, and our higher-realm friends will help us accomplish it. (04-27-2013, 01:05 AM)Parsons Wrote: I now feel it a delightful opportunity to have an extremely fruitful incarnation of learning, polarizing and simply helping others. Wonderful! I'm glad to hear you have found your niche and are at peace. (04-27-2013, 01:05 AM)Parsons Wrote: The world seems to have much promise in improving in general in several different areas which would improve the plight of needing to work for a living. I know it might sound like gadgetry, but imagine a device which would provide 3-4 kilowatts of power for your home and your electric- engine car. You would only have to purchase the unit, then pay maintenance on it to enjoy a benefit of virtually non-existent energy costs. Also, the added benefit of making virtually no air polution for powering your house and your car. I've heard of such devices but don't know which ones you are specifically referring to. Are these companies that you are considering getting involved in, or just things you've heard about and found intriguing? Many cutting-edge products and services that have the ability to transform society are often sold via direct selling/referral marketing companies, whereas 'mainstream' products that continue the status quo for the powers that be continue to be sold via the '9 to 5' corporate business model. Even the model of direct selling/referral marketing is hugely transformative! (04-27-2013, 01:05 AM)Parsons Wrote: I am hopeful but not "needing" of society to improve in any area just mentioned. Oh it's already happening! Just as more and more people are turning to alternative healthcare, to the tune of billions of dollars, so too are more and more people turning to direct selling/referral marketing businesses. In fact, a very high percentage of new millionaires in the last couple of decades, did so by becoming independent business owners of their own direct selling/referral marketing businesses! And the best part is that, unlike franchises which require hundreds of thousands of dollars to invest in, or conventional 'brick and mortar' businesses which require a lot of overhead and 90% fail within the first year, direct selling/referral marketing businesses require ridiculously low startup costs: anywhere from $50 to $5000 (as compared to $50k to $500k for franchises). So for a very small startup fee, one can enjoy a decent income, usually while working part-time. For those who are really serious about it, a 6-figure income within 1-2 years is the norm, again, working part-time. Of course, not all direct selling/referral marketing companies are good opportunities. Just as with anything, there are good ones and bad ones. So it's important to really check out the company and product you're considering getting involved with. There are some helpful guidelines when choosing a company: the viability and quality of the product, the marketing approach, the stability of the company, etc. Here is an excellent, educational video by $$ guru Robert Kiyosaki: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BiVP0meTNo It's generic - not promoting any particular company, but just the business model. I'm a huge fan of Robert's. I'm not such a fan of his good friend Donald Trump, but just f.y.i., Trump is also a fan of direct selling/referral marketing. These 2 successful men both say it's the fastest, best way to become financially independent. This is how my particular company's business model works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj1U8qFecxA The 'black box' is the device I mentioned earlier, that is helping people get off their meds, get out of pain, get out of their wheelchairs, etc. I like selling black boxes that help people, but the concept can be applied to any product. The numbers will vary, depending on the product and the particular company's marketing/compensation plan. My particular company pays bigger than any other that I've seen, because we sell a medical device that is now available for home use. Other companies, that have products like berry juice drinks or cell phone plans, pay very small amounts, but depend on large numbers of people growing exponentially. Either system can work well; it's just that the structure is different. Some are much easier than others. Some, like the one I do, pay very well very quickly. I replaced my IT income very quickly with this business; whereas back when I sold a health food product, it took a few years to get to the level of income we could actually live on. As with anything, a bit of homework is required, to be sure one is choosing well and understands what's involved in being successful. The legitimate opportunities are NOT 'get rich quick' schemes but viable business opportunities. There is a difference and it's important to understand that difference. How to know? The scams don't have viable products, and pay commission based on membership or subscription fees. Whereas, the legitimate businesses pay commissions when actual products are sold. That's how you know. (04-27-2013, 01:05 AM)Parsons Wrote: All that aside, I certainly wouldn't mind a job coming my way which aides others in some way. I am limited physically by my inability to stand for extensive periods of time, so it would have to be a sit down job. /shrug I do my business from home. Most of my work is done on the computer and/or the phone. My husband teases me whenever I go out: "do you still remember how to drive?" RE: Escaping the nine to five - Parsons - 04-27-2013 Monica Wrote:I've heard of such devices but don't know which ones you are specifically referring to. Are these companies that you are considering getting involved in, or just things you've heard about and found intriguing? I was specifically referring to the work of MT Keshe. I'm sure he will have the first units available for purchase but he is simply attempting to flood the whole world with the technology. He has been attempting to teach other projects how to generate power with his publicly available patents / tutelage and I know in his most recent interview that at least two other projects have had some degree of success. Anyways, while power generators and other gadgetry designed to improve health or increase free time sounds great / helpful, I have other goals for my dream career. I would very seriously like to be involved in creating a 'metaphysical research institute/university.' This would take projects like TheEternal's 'services' project to a much higher level of researching new techniques and then teaching what we know to students. I do not take credit for this idea since it seems that least two others I know 'received' this idea nearly simultaneously. I have made it an incarnational goal to see this project at least get through the planning phase. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Ellai - 04-29-2013 Dear spaced. I have only read your first post. I know what you mean by feeling trapped. First off let me tell you: start working on your chakra system. If you want to break free you need to have a plan. My plan in your case would be: - get more energy (by getting rid of the blockages in the third chakra, and getting more grounded) - find out what you really want to do (follow your heart, wich gives you more energy as well) - getting rid of the fears you have about following your heart, or any other fear wich keeps you in the state you are in. How to do this: - start grounding twice daily, to get more energy, to get rid of fear and get more energy to start following your heart. - let go of old fears, zoom in on your thoughts and what you are creating. Use affirmations to create what you do want. instead of being in the loop of creating what you dont want - stop focussing on what you dont want: you are manifesting it. Instead: focus your intention on what is good in your life ----> your energy will change, your vibration will rise and you will be creating positive things in your life - start imagening what you want to do. Just by imagining you are starting new portals to open up to follow your dream. You are telling your higher self, your guides, your angels that this s what you want. Ask them for help and they will hand it to you. Just a quick thought. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Plenum - 05-04-2013 yah, good thread Spaced. work basically defines one's life; if you're not happy or comfortable with it, it's going to give you problems - so many of your waking hours are spent there or spent preparing for it (travel, getting up, etc etc). one of the best things I've ever done in my life is to cut my hours; I went from five days to four, and then eventually three (what I work now). But of crouse, the finances and living situation have to be there to support such a move. that is one change that could be made; it doesn't totally escape the nine-to-five, but it offers a different experience on the work life. I also know that you plan on moving locations pretty soon; and so a 'new job' might breathe life into what you consider the work experience; even though your labors will be for another individual or organisation, rather than 'working' for oneself. work is inherently a yellow ray activity ... and so one's relationship to it, how one views one's endeavours, one's integratedness with it ... these can either lead to resistances or smooth energetic flows. work also introduces one to people that you would not normally meet; and there are tremendous opportunities for interaction and acceptances there. It's also a regular experience, and that structure goes a long way to keep one level and 'sane'. work ain't all that bad in the end; it's a way of contributing ... if you find 'work' that is amenable to the self, makes use of one's skills (supports self esteem), and not totally 'evil' given the organisation you happen to be working for. in the end, as the buddha said, we have to find ways of making the 'right livelihood' work for us. As an expression of the self. peace out brother plenum RE: Escaping the nine to five - GentleReckoning - 05-04-2013 I recommend the book Quitter. It basically tells you how to let your job motivate what you love, and let what you love motivate you on the job. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Plenum - 05-05-2013 (05-04-2013, 11:03 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: I recommend the book Quitter. Quitter? sounds like you're giving up there GR ![]() but honestly, thanks for the recommend; and let us know how it plays out in your life. I know that you're pursuing ways of making your dreams became a reality. plenum RE: Escaping the nine to five - Horuseus - 05-05-2013 Some time ago I left University half way through the final year of my studies after being in the same situation you find yourself in now. Yes, some within the confines of the illusion would see it as ludicrous however the reason was quite simple and clear to me even though I did not wish to admit it for the longest time. It was unfulfilling, boring, and to be perfectly honest the prospect of a 9-5 Job 5 days a week with ~20 paid days a year for the next 40+ years of my life in a role which I did only for psychological security of the Ego construct and not that of the Heart made me throw up, in a manner of speaking. I had mused upon the prospect for a while, and finally gave in to my own true yearning and passion. We all deep down 'know' the most obvious solution, yet we tend to create this concept called 'process' which slows us down somewhat, which is merely the time we take before we give ourselves permission to do the obvious. Let me say that letting go does not come easy to 'me', and it was one of the most difficult decisions I have had to make in this life thus far, though much if not all of the 'resistance' was my own doing. There was also family yes, but it was only because I gave let them have that power over me. Be empowered. Now I can say it is fast becoming one of the best decisions I have made. These last 6 or so months since I have grown much as a person in many areas, bulldozing through many preconcieved notions of how it 'should be', and building a life aligned with the true nature of the self. It hasn't been easy for me, and there is much to be done, but I can actually say wholeheartedly that I am content and happy, and that the foundations are beginning to appear. You must resonate at that level before external 'opportunity' is given to maintain that state of resonance. Knowing that I didn't (Intellectually speaking) know what I wanted to do if I left was the most worrying thing for me, and it seems to be a dilemma you face currently. I will say that you should simply acknowledge what you feel and why, and jump right into it trusting your Spirit to guide. Often what we feel is a call from the true Self to get you going in the right direction. If this is too much for your belief system to handle at this time, then that is alight, but act and do from your Heart when you can, whether it be painting, music or writing, do what 'feels' good regardless of how irrelevant it may appear on the surface. I know and can 'see' it through your words that you know what the most obvious solution is, and what is happening now is previously unconscious beliefs and definitions are being made conscious which are not aligned with your truth. You should analyse these reasons and ask yourself whether you really believe this. Do you not believe Spirit will not guide if you choose to not bow down to the control system you came to change? You are unconditionally loved and supported at all times, and this applies to being supported in your belief that you are not Loved, supported and must 'work' to live in survival mode. Yes, I know, you want a logical reason which would satisfy your Ego, an alternate career or path which fulfills as 'back up', but what you also should know that it is this type of thinking and programming you are working to free yourself from. Spirit will show you the way, for that I can assure you, but you must take the first step, and not the other way around. Ask Spirit for the inspiration, feel and know it, and jump into the unknown being the state you wish to be, and you will perceive new options and areas for exploration within your life that were previously hidden. This has been the case for me, for within the last few months I am slowly but surely uncovering new paths and options, which I can say would not have been the case had I stayed at my place of study. I do not regret it at all, and I thank Spirit for this gift. All is very temporary, do not lock yourself into anything that may prevent your growth, and allow yourself the freedom to be who you wish to be. We should all Live to do what we Love, but we should not do what we Hate in order to Live. Do not work for the future, for you will always miss the Now. Stop getting in your own way, ask yourself truly what it is you desire, and be that person. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Jamie35 - 05-05-2013 I know what it is like to live in poverty because the chosen passion that I had sought presented that restrictiveness of gotta have 'X' amount of years of experience to even be considered for this job. Then there was how do you get that experience when they demand you have 'X' amount of years to begin with. Then there are avenues where you can get that experience or so you think such as freelance work, the door shuts because they require you to know this, & your work does not qualify as legitimate experience. In the meantime you get a job, likely with low pay, & a hope on a prayer. Year after year of no progression & the same old you have to work your way up only to work hard, get the knowledge only to see to you left behind as someone with less knowledge get the management job & your still slaving at rock bottom. In the un-awakened state your ego is hurt, your pride is insulted, your feel as if your not treated fairly, & eventually quit. But then there is the state of knowing & understanding...... It is not you, it is the lie that as you have been taught that hard work can get you to the top, but in reality it is who you know, not what you know. Then there is the understanding when you are aware that what is money & what is Earth economics but a mere portion of the matrix that is of the control grid. Your wanting is part of the problem that get you too caught up here & having to repeat the grand cycle as a 3rd density incarnate. When & if you awaken you understand it is not about that 9-5 boring job that you do not want or perhaps that you do if you hate the night shift & want to spend time to leave an impression on your family that will help their development. Here in the now the matrix was designed to get you trapped into the system that teaches you limitation therefore despite all of your talents if you are not aware you can not simply use them. Your mission is likely to fail, so what are we to do as we are in the 3rd density body therefore at present we are human? Here is the thing you are cosmic aliens as it is perceived, the Orion mind is afraid of your knowledge, are we not to use what we know to build things. Here is an idea co-op businesses run by the masses as opposed by the few are some idea's that I come up with. If you don't like the 9-5 what the elites fear is people coming together to create things especially in a social memory complex to serve people & while there is the STS system of money in place we must use it for a better tomorrow where we can rid ourselves of this primitive economic structure. RE: Escaping the nine to five - GentleReckoning - 05-05-2013 Um. It's possible to be content, enlightened, and happy working a 9-5 job. People don't delight in their boundaries, but it is all just catalyst that can be reacted to positively or negatively. RE: Escaping the nine to five - Marc - 05-06-2013 I recently just went through an ordeal of flight or fight because of the way society is and I want no part in it... I then found myself becoming extremely discontent and bitter very quickly. Through the course of the last week I just wanted to run away to a little village and believed life would be better. I then came to realize I was not accepting the catalysts given to me at my job and life. I was losing polarity fast. Now I am going through a process of accepting all things as the creator, and then from that attitude of acceptance creating intention and becoming the creator. No 'thing' is gonna make me happy or content; only I can do that by having an attitude of acceptance. The outside world will never make me happy only the inner world. But, that being said, I am quitting college and learning what I want to learn. I am going to pursue my dreams and align myself with the Tao. The Tao will take me on my journey as I stop striving and just accept all things and create the future with the firm foundation of acceptance. That's just my take on it... ![]() RE: Escaping the nine to five - Plenum - 05-13-2013 it has also struck me how few 9-5, 40hr week, employed individuals there are that frequent these forums. by far the majority seem to be: * students * unemployed * work odd hours * work part time * work for themselves so congratulations. Most of you have somehow managed to escape the 'grid' of normality ![]() |