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can b4th move a mountain? - Plenum - 04-22-2013
Ra says that an individual purified of all flaws can move a mountain.
but also, a group that has sufficient balancing for each others' distortions could also move a mountain.
I think you guys should try this at the next iteration of Homecoming
Quote:3.10 Questioner: Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One and lives, and is the Law of One, such things as the building of a pyramid by direct mental effort would be commonplace. Is that what I am to understand? Am I correct?
Ra: I am Ra. You are incorrect in that there is a distinction between the individual power through the Law of One and the combined, or societal memory complex mind/body/spirit understanding of the Law of One.
In the first case only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains. The progress is normally from the understanding which you now seek to a dimension of understanding which is governed by the laws of love, and which seeks the laws of light. Those who are vibrating with the Law of Light seek the Law of One. Those who vibrate with the Law of One seek the Law of Foreverness.
please try for my sake.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - βαθμιαίος - 04-22-2013
Might be surprising for the people who lived on the mountain. Or the ones who lived where we moved it to.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - zenmaster - 04-22-2013
yeah, screw learning, healing, world peace and all that crap. let's relocate millions of tons of dirt and rock.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Sagittarius - 04-22-2013
(04-22-2013, 07:34 PM)zenmaster Wrote: yeah, screw learning, healing, world peace and all that crap. let's relocate millions of tons of dirt and rock.
I think Brisbane could use the golden gate bridge, anyone up for helping me relocate it? Must have a power level of over 9000 to apply.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Barry - 04-22-2013
That finds some homeplace in the 100th Monkey Effect (explanation at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect), and even better in the related Maharishi Effect (explanation at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_Effect). An incredibly small number of individuals of some spirituality or purification can indeed "move mountains."
Also of interest in that regard is The Global Coherence Initiative, whose stated mission is, "The Global Coherence Initiative is a science-based, co-creative project to unite people in heart-focused care and intention, to facilitate the shift in global consciousness from instability and discord to balance, cooperation and enduring peace." (http://www.glcoherence.org/). Hmm - "heart-focused care and intention" - sounds like Law of One, doesn't it? BTW, you can join and participate in GCI's worldwide group meditations.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - zenmaster - 04-23-2013
lol. kind of a big difference between "move mountains" (in quotes) and not in quotes.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - JustLikeYou - 04-23-2013
Do we have to roll for attributes first?
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Confused - 04-23-2013
More often, spirituality is easy as long as it is vague, in my personal experience.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Oldern - 04-23-2013
(04-22-2013, 07:34 PM)zenmaster Wrote: yeah, screw learning, healing, world peace and all that crap. let's relocate millions of tons of dirt and rock.
What is the matter, Zen? You are so sour nowadays that I need to clear my throat after reading some of your comments.... -.- It seems pretty obvious to me that Plenum would not suggest moving a mountain literally
But I might be just dumb as well.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Ankh - 04-23-2013
(04-22-2013, 05:33 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Might be surprising for the people who lived on the mountain. Or the ones who lived where we moved it to.
LOL!
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Barry - 04-23-2013
"Move mountains" in quotes is obviously a figure of speech; in addition, what might be your molehill may be my mountain. There is plenty of evidence (albeit not meeting the rigorous requirements for acceptance of Newtonian/Cartesian science) that group meditation in the nature of what Ra and Q'uo speak of does "move mountains" in the nature of positively influencing human events. Another site which has some of the "evidence" listed: http://www.worldpeacegroup.org/world_peace_research.html.
Another thought is that Ra and Q'uo constantly emphasize that one's giving love raises the vibration level of everything. That's not "moving mountains," but rather infinitesimally moving 3rd density Earth!
Oops - I omitted as an example the Gaia Meditations which are engaged in by B4th - see Home Page and the Ra quotation.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - zenmaster - 04-23-2013
(04-23-2013, 03:57 AM)Confused Wrote: More often, spirituality is easy as long as it is vague, in my personal experience.yes, ambiguity means you may carelessly "contribute" a coy notion that resonates due to use of borrowed key words. Something that may turn out to accidentally match fancifully perceived value, without accountability or effort. Magical thinking contributes charge to unconscious themes which promise transcendence - hence the spirituality connection. The charge resulting from merely hinting at possibilities which resonate with these themes is like a drug, because transcendence = that power and freedom yet denied to self.
(04-23-2013, 05:38 AM)Oldern Wrote:fyi, I refuse to post if sour. So quite the contrary, I am usually smiling at these whimsical notions.(04-22-2013, 07:34 PM)zenmaster Wrote: yeah, screw learning, healing, world peace and all that crap. let's relocate millions of tons of dirt and rock.
What is the matter, Zen? You are so sour nowadays that I need to clear my throat after reading some of your comments.... -.- It seems pretty obvious to me that Plenum would not suggest moving a mountain literally
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Oldern - 04-23-2013
(04-23-2013, 07:18 AM)zenmaster Wrote: fyi, I refuse to post if sour. So quite the contrary, I am usually smiling at these whimsical notions.
That is actually good to know, it definitely gives the posts a different taste then
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Brittany - 04-23-2013
Maybe we could just levitate Carla across the yard. :p
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Spaced - 04-23-2013
With enough faith ANYONE could move a mountain . . . by hand . . . one stone at a time
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Ashim - 04-23-2013
Final scenes from the movie Dark City.
Must watch.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Aaron - 04-23-2013
Would this moving mountains be done through contact with intelligent infinity?
I've been thinking about the contact with intelligent infinity a lot, and considering polarity, and its possible relation to contacting intelligent infinity alone vs. in a group. Once I have time to do a little more studying, I might create a thread about this...
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Monica - 04-24-2013
Not just any mountain! How about something useful, like moving the sunken Atlantis back up?
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Adonai One - 04-24-2013
(04-24-2013, 12:06 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Not just any mountain! How about something useful, like moving the sunken Atlantis back up?You'll find your crystal one of these days, Monica.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Hototo - 04-24-2013
(04-22-2013, 07:34 PM)zenmaster Wrote: yeah, screw learning, healing, world peace and all that crap. let's relocate millions of tons of dirt and rock.
I found this funny.
Moving on, How about we start a company called "Interdimensional waste removal service" and we move all the waste into an alternate reality by the purity of our intention? No?
I say we continue to study healing and world peace and all that crap too.
(04-23-2013, 04:40 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: Would this moving mountains be done through contact with intelligent infinity?
I've been thinking about the contact with intelligent infinity a lot, and considering polarity, and its possible relation to contacting intelligent infinity alone vs. in a group. Once I have time to do a little more studying, I might create a thread about this...
Contacting II is easy, getting II convinced of the need to level several mountains is dfficult, and as difficult as getting your higher self convinced of anything. You may give it a shot. A large group has better logic(more ideas usually) so I recommend groups of 3<
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - carrie - 04-24-2013
> Can you move a mountain?
If you remove all the erroneous thoughts from your mind, follow the Law of One, you can move a mountain from your own thoughts.
Beware!
There are people living around there.
You need permission (from the High Council) first because if you do so, you cause an earthquake or affect the people living near the mountain in a negative manner. You must respect the council's decision if you are denied.
In fact, even to ask the High Council, you must have strong reasons to do so, since it is not like in the past when areas near mountains are not heavily populated.
If you want to do such things, try to do it low-scale and not cause too much destruction.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - reeay - 04-24-2013
(04-24-2013, 01:48 PM)carrie Wrote: You need permission (from the High Council) first because if you do so, you cause an earthquake or affect the people living near the mountain in a negative manner. You must respect the council's decision if you are denied.
Who is the High Council?
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Aaron - 04-24-2013
(04-24-2013, 02:29 AM)Not Sure Wrote:(04-23-2013, 04:40 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: Would this moving mountains be done through contact with intelligent infinity?
I've been thinking about the contact with intelligent infinity a lot, and considering polarity, and its possible relation to contacting intelligent infinity alone vs. in a group. Once I have time to do a little more studying, I might create a thread about this...
Contacting II is easy, getting II convinced of the need to level several mountains is dfficult, and as difficult as getting your higher self convinced of anything. You may give it a shot. A large group has better logic(more ideas usually) so I recommend groups of 3<
Convincing an infinite intelligence of anything would be impossible as long as one is operating from finite consciousness... But you ARE that infinite intelligence.
My thoughts on contacting intelligent infinity alone vs. in a group run more along the lines of how polarization naturally draws entities apart and/or separates them, and how "Each entity will receive the opportunity that each needs." I'm hesitantly concluding that negative polarization will tend to contact intelligent infinity alone and harvest themselves, while the positive polarization will be drawn into groups and contact intelligent infinity as a harmonized group. But I want to lay out my thoughts completely in a separate thread...
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - carrie - 04-24-2013
(04-24-2013, 02:00 PM)rie Wrote: Who is the High Council?
6.7 We were allowed this experiment by the Council which guards this planet.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - AnthroHeart - 04-24-2013
The council I believe is from the next Octave, looking over us. They oversee the Guardians as I take it.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - xise - 04-24-2013
(04-24-2013, 02:40 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote:(04-24-2013, 02:29 AM)Not Sure Wrote:(04-23-2013, 04:40 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: Would this moving mountains be done through contact with intelligent infinity?
I've been thinking about the contact with intelligent infinity a lot, and considering polarity, and its possible relation to contacting intelligent infinity alone vs. in a group. Once I have time to do a little more studying, I might create a thread about this...
Contacting II is easy, getting II convinced of the need to level several mountains is dfficult, and as difficult as getting your higher self convinced of anything. You may give it a shot. A large group has better logic(more ideas usually) so I recommend groups of 3<
Convincing an infinite intelligence of anything would be impossible as long as one is operating from finite consciousness... But you ARE that infinite intelligence.
My thoughts on contacting intelligent infinity alone vs. in a group run more along the lines of how polarization naturally draws entities apart and/or separates them, and how "Each entity will receive the opportunity that each needs." I'm hesitantly concluding that negative polarization will tend to contact intelligent infinity alone and harvest themselves, while the positive polarization will be drawn into groups and contact intelligent infinity as a harmonized group. But I want to lay out my thoughts completely in a separate thread...
Please do lay them out in a thread. I'd love to hear them!
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - reeay - 04-24-2013
I didn't know they were called "High" council, just Council.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - zenmaster - 04-24-2013
(04-24-2013, 09:48 PM)rie Wrote: I didn't know they were called "High" council, just Council.The possible is assumed to be actual if we are fond of the possibility.
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - carrie - 04-25-2013
You should first focus on removing blockages from you reaching Intelligent Infinity.
After that, focus on reaching > 50%. It is easier said than done...
RE: can b4th move a mountain? - Ankh - 04-25-2013
(04-24-2013, 08:38 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The council I believe is from the next Octave, looking over us. They oversee the Guardians as I take it.
The Council consists of Confederation entities and those from our own inner planes, according to Ra. Guardians back this Council up, when needed:
Ra, 7.9 Wrote:The members of the Council are representatives from the Confederation and from those vibratory levels of your inner planes bearing responsibility for your third density. The names are not important because there are no names. Your mind/body/spirit complexes request names and so, in many cases, the vibratory sound complexes which are consonant with the vibratory distortions of each entity are used. However, the name concept is not part of the Council. If names are requested, we will attempt them. However, not all have chosen names.
In number, the Council that sits in constant session, though varying in its members by means of balancing, which takes place, what you would call irregularly, is nine. That is the Session Council. To back up this Council, there are twenty-four entities which offer their services as requested. These entities faithfully watch and have been called the Guardians.