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John Hagelin! - Praxis - 01-01-2013
Here is a short interview from the David Lynch Foundation detailing what world renowned quantum physics understands as the exploration and expansion of human consciousness. He brings great insight and connection to what the Ra/Quo material is about although he isn't directly making the connection himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRgu3V6Ex_A
A comment from the YouTube video by Bexsomb:
Consciousness isn't of the brain. Meditation is moving awareness away from the mind and from thoughts, it is going deep within yourself to the source of all things which is consciousness.
Quantum Physicists define consciousness as the unified field. The interconnectedness of everything because everything is all one, everything is pure consciousness.
RE: John Hagelin! - zenmaster - 01-01-2013
(01-01-2013, 11:29 PM)Praxis Wrote: Quantum Physicists define consciousness as the unified field.Definitely not true as there is no scientific explanation for consciousness. In actual science, subjects must be rigorously explained.
RE: John Hagelin! - Praxis - 01-01-2013
hmm.. very true. although in neuroscience they have physiologically proven that there is a forth state of being distinct from the waking state, sleep and deep sleep states called the unified field of consciousness. Where you brain become fully functioning, where as an artist only enhance a specific part or mathematician a specific area of the brain. Its a meditative state. Whether or not it is theoretical connected to consciousness or not and theoretically trying to make the connection to the theory of unified physics.
"Quantum Physicists define consciousness as the unified field."
that was a post by someone else that overall sounded groovy
RE: John Hagelin! - Karl - 01-02-2013
Very interesting.
RE: John Hagelin! - zenmaster - 01-02-2013
(01-01-2013, 11:47 PM)Praxis Wrote: that was a post by someone else that overall sounded groovyHence popularity of the utter BS such as "Thrive" and "What the Bleep" which also attempt to hijack science (esp. QM).
RE: John Hagelin! - reeay - 01-02-2013
I think it's difficult to 'prove' things scientifically, that's why it's called a 'theory' and not 'fact.'
RE: John Hagelin! - Praxis - 01-02-2013
Haven't really seen "Thrive" and "What the Bleep" although know it's what the bleep do we know. Can kind of imply what it talks about. I think theories are great to understand to a small degree without the ability to, "shut up and calculate", but use them to extract parts of information in the process of finding self. Not super scientific myself and find the world in a more abstract manner but the fact through meditation you can activate your full potential of the brain could change the fundamentals of our society. Why is quantum mechanics bs? So Isaac Newton's understanding of science or science prior to quantum mechanics makes more sense and hijacked the science before it?
RE: John Hagelin! - norral - 01-02-2013
i like what he says about conciousness does not lie in the brain. that makes sense to me . the brain is a wonderful physical organ that is miraculous in its functioning. but who we are lies beyond any physical definition. when we leave this earth conciousness continues and the real us continues on. that is very easy to forget in this world.
norral
RE: John Hagelin! - Axel - 02-28-2013
(01-01-2013, 11:39 PM)zenmaster Wrote:Here is quote from Max Planck: "There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."(01-01-2013, 11:29 PM)Praxis Wrote: Quantum Physicists define consciousness as the unified field.Definitely not true as there is no scientific explanation for consciousness. In actual science, subjects must be rigorously explained.
Since the formulation of quantum theory, physicists now quite well, and have proven, that consciousness (the observer through the act of observing) brings "physical reality" into existence.
John Hagelin and more ! - C-JEAN - 03-01-2013
Hi, "open mind" fans.
If you want to see a good number of solid scientists and persons of other
professions talk about matter & consciousness in a new way, DO SEE the film
"What the BLEEP do we know?!" down the rabbit hole !!
It's a 3 DVD kit with many interviews beside the film. . .
You can visit the site form here :
http://www.whatthebleep.com/guestbook/?p=100
The comments in that site is a good start. B-)
I did buy the kit and watched it MANY times, now.
EDIT to add:
John Hagelin is one of the "stars" in the kit !! B-)
Blue skies.