(11-17-2011, 08:35 PM)Pickle Wrote: I came up INTJ

(11-17-2011, 10:52 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I see y'all's "jung tests" as being quite accurate.

---

(11-17-2011, 10:52 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I must admit, I imagined you in your real life to be the "Promoter"ESTP. I can see how INTJ would fit, though

Quote:Introverted iNtuition
INTJs are idea people. Anything is possible; everything is negotiable. Whatever the outer circumstances, INTJs are ever perceiving inner pattern-forms and using real-world materials to operationalize them. Others may see what is and wonder why; INTJs see what might be and say "Why not?!" Paradoxes, antinomies, and other contradictory phenomena aptly express these intuitors' amusement at those whom they feel may be taking a particular view of reality too seriously. INTJs enjoy developing unique solutions to complex problems.

Quote:To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be "slacking," including superiors, will lose their respect -- and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.

In the broadest terms, what INTJs "do" tends to be what they "know". Typical INTJ career choices are in the sciences and engineering, but they can be found wherever a combination of intellect and incisiveness are required (e.g., law, some areas of academia). INTJs can rise to management positions when they are willing to invest time in marketing their abilities as well as enhancing them, and (whether for the sake of ambition or the desire for privacy) many also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality.

Quote:The Mastermind (INTJ) is very focused as well, but more on an internal vision. They are good at solving problems and like to work on tough intellectual puzzles. They are often led into technical positions such as scientific researcher, design engineer, environmental planner. The developing field of genetics benefits from their intensity as does the field of medicine. In education they are most often found at the college and university level. In the professions, they may be a lawyer, a business analyst, or strategic planner. Some have a strong artistic/creative bent and may become an artist, inventor, or designer. Whatever they do, they do it with intensity. Says Kim, "I am constantly teaching myself something new in order to solve the problems that I encounter. My husband leaves me alone when he sees that I am caught in what he calls my "Thinking Time." I'm unwinding knots even in my sleep."

Quote:Masterminds are rare, comprising no more than one to two percent of the population, and they are rarely encountered outside their office, factory, school, or laboratory. Although they are highly capable leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once they take charge, however, they are thoroughgoing pragmatists. Masterminds are certain that efficiency is indispensable in a well-run organization, and if they encounter inefficiency -- any waste of human and material resources -- they are quick to realign operations and reassign personnel. Masterminds do not feel bound by established rules and procedures, and traditional authority does not impress them, nor do slogans or catchwords. Only ideas that make sense to them are adopted; those that don't, aren't, no matter who thought of them. Remember, their aim is always maximum efficiency.

(11-18-2011, 07:08 PM)haqiqu Wrote: enneagram: 9

briggs/myers: infj (j was 1%). last time i took the briggs/myers i was infp. don't know what changed.

(11-19-2011, 12:38 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: Lastly, since no one with a sensing preference has come up, I'm beginning to suspect that having an 'intuitive' slant is required to have a mental entry into and interest in things like the LOO, and other esoteric things. 'Intuitive' because under myers briggs intuition is more a function which generates abstractions and connection and possibilties based on more basic perceptions. Rather than a 'feeling-sensing of truth' so to speak.

(11-19-2011, 12:47 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote:

(11-19-2011, 12:38 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: Lastly, since no one with a sensing preference has come up, I'm beginning to suspect that having an 'intuitive' slant is required to have a mental entry into and interest in things like the LOO, and other esoteric things. 'Intuitive' because under myers briggs intuition is more a function which generates abstractions and connection and possibilties based on more basic perceptions. Rather than a 'feeling-sensing of truth' so to speak.

It's interesting that within a lot of online communities, many personality types/traits are common, sometimes with a 100% consistency.

(11-19-2011, 12:47 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote:

(11-19-2011, 12:38 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: Lastly, since no one with a sensing preference has come up, I'm beginning to suspect that having an 'intuitive' slant is required to have a mental entry into and interest in things like the LOO, and other esoteric things. 'Intuitive' because under myers briggs intuition is more a function which generates abstractions and connection and possibilties based on more basic perceptions. Rather than a 'feeling-sensing of truth' so to speak.

It's interesting that within a lot of online communities, many personality types/traits are common, sometimes with a 100% consistency.

(11-17-2011, 06:47 PM)Pickle Wrote: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/dis_sample_36.asp

Type 5

(11-19-2011, 12:38 AM)Ens Entium Wrote:

(11-18-2011, 07:08 PM)haqiqu Wrote: enneagram: 9

briggs/myers: infj (j was 1%). last time i took the briggs/myers i was infp. don't know what changed.

Not much has changed, you probably just answered one more question for a 'I am organised' type statement rather than 'I am spontaneous/untidy'.

Not sure if this is obvious, but a quick way to interpret the mbti is to look at the last letter first, this will tell you what you extravert with, as in which function (evaluation or perceiving function) operates on the 'outside world' or external things. Judgement preferences mean you either extravert your thinking or feeling - make evaluations based on, primarily, what you think of feel about external things. Then the 'information' gathering function (sensing or intuition) will be introverted- meaning it will operate on internal material. It is vice versa for people with perceiving preferences. The first letter tells you which is dominant. For intj for example, introverted intuition is dominant and extraverted thinking is auxillary. For esfp, extraverted sensing is dominant and introverted feeling auxillary.

I felt to mention this because you are interesting in this respect, haqiqu. Do you entertain possibilities upon possibilites or do you 'synthesise' more?


Lastly, since no one with a sensing preference has come up, I'm beginning to suspect that having an 'intuitive' slant is required to have a mental entry into and interest in things like the LOO, and other esoteric things. 'Intuitive' because under myers briggs intuition is more a function which generates abstractions and connection and possibilties based on more basic perceptions. Rather than a 'feeling-sensing of truth' so to speak.

(01-24-2012, 04:22 AM)Meerie Wrote: INFP
enneagram type : 4 "the individualist"
(although I had a rather high score for type 6 as well)

(11-18-2011, 03:47 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'm not going to highlight mine, Pickle. You'd die laughing if I did.

(11-17-2011, 06:47 PM)BrownEye Wrote: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/dis_sample_36.asp

Type 5