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Penetrating the Forgetting - AnthroHeart - 07-12-2011
I've been working to pierce the veil, and allow the denser Light in. So I take it from this quote that we're not supposed to try to activate our higher density bodies? What do others think? Is this something we should not be focused on?
Quote:65.19 However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Oceania - 07-12-2011
i think it's ok of you manage to do it within the rules of the planet like any monkey. also, piercing the veil and helping your body take in light are different things.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - 3DMonkey - 07-12-2011
(07-12-2011, 11:13 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've been working to pierce the veil, and allow the denser Light in. So I take it from this quote that we're not supposed to try to activate our higher density bodies? What do others think? Is this something we should not be focused on?If you can do it, I say go for it. Dangerous, some may say, but why? I can't even get my fingernail into the groove to try and pry it open. Not even a splinter. If I get a foot in the door, I would pry with all my might.
Quote:65.19 However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Zygra - 07-12-2011
(07-12-2011, 11:13 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've been working to pierce the veil, and allow the denser Light in. So I take it from this quote that we're not supposed to try to activate our higher density bodies? What do others think? Is this something we should not be focused on?If one is a wanderer and is able to fully activate ones 4th+ density bodies one would wield above superhuman powers. Healing is a common manifestation of a partially activated 4th density body.
Quote:65.19 However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.
I have considered a few times to attempt to awaken the higher bodies but each and every time I get the intuitive feeling that it would be a misstake. So, right now I just keep a small activation up and strive to contain my urges to get back what I have temporarily sacrificed. So, we enjoy the straightjacket.
love
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Ankh - 07-12-2011
I guess that it would be an infringement upon the Free Will of others self, if they would witness some of the miracles one would be able to do, if denser bodies are penetrated. But I also wonder about the correlation between the service and penetration of the denser bodies. Why would one not be able to serve if a denser body is penetrated (and used when there is no proof or evidence for that, that is when no one notice it)?
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - βαθμιαίος - 07-12-2011
Ankh's post reminded me of this quote:
Quote:73.14 Questioner: An observation of the working itself by another entity would seem to me to partially abridge free will in that a seemingly magical occurrence had taken place as the result of the working of an adept. This could be extended to any phenomenon which is other than normal or acceptable. Could you speak on this paradox that is immediately the problem of anyone doing healing?
Ra: I am Ra. We are humble messengers of the Law of One. To us there are no paradoxes. The workings which seem magical and, therefore, seem to infringe upon free will do not, in themselves, do so, for the distortions of perception are as many as the witnesses and each witness sees what it desires to see. Infringement upon free will occurs in this circumstance only if the entity doing the working ascribes the authorship of this event to its self or its own skills. He who states that no working comes from it but only through it is not infringing upon free will.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - 3DMonkey - 07-12-2011
The light of love shines through you into me
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - zenmaster - 07-12-2011
(07-12-2011, 11:13 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've been working to pierce the veil, and allow the denser Light in. So I take it from this quote that we're not supposed to try to activate our higher density bodies? What do others think? Is this something we should not be focused on?I don't think you could if you wanted to. Know how probably entails grasping concepts, as a whole, that are inherently separated with the 3D mind. These concepts are part of the greater mind, beyond the veil. The wanderer would need a different vehicle (genetic connection from body to mind) to access that mind.
"The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere."
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Ankh - 07-13-2011
A careful and conscious opening of the gateway to intelligent infinity, in order to learn healing for instance, is a working that can take, if one is lucky, determent etc, many, many years. But I don't think that it's the same thing as penetrating the veil, and in this case to an extent of awakening of the denser bodies. Perhaps zen is right, that it's impossible. Still, it is mentioned in the material.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Zygra - 07-13-2011
We live in this world only a short time(even if it can feel like forever). Indeed Ankh. It might take too long with too much time spent on it. If one is a wonderer, then spending time on undoing something one locked oneself becomes kind of stupid. Because the locking was made so that one can function here without infringing on free will.
Most 3D worlds are not under quarantine as earth is. Earth is a very "special" case. It´s hardcore. I want to go home. Im homesick, tired, fatigued. Still, no attempt is made for anything of the kind. Thats how much we love. The departure will come eventually.
love
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Ankh - 07-13-2011
Ah, you are not alone, brother/sister Zygra. I know the feeling of wanting to go home, and being tired. And quarantine, that is the hardest thing that I find here. This week I had a visit from a friend. Each evening we were sitting outside talking, and enjoying each other's company. One night we were dreaming away a little bit. Our thoughts were: "Imagine no quarantine. We could call Ra, Pleaidians or whomever had time and were up for it, who would come, sit next to us and talk for a little while. We would be drinking beer, they would be drinking Ambrosia or whatever they prefered. Just be in each other's company for a little while, enjoying each other in the real life without all that serious-ness that exists in the world many times." Yeah, that would be something...
I don't know about Gemini, but I was thinking if penetrating the denser bodies can happen by some kind of "accident" while one is penetrating the veil, like "ooops! I didn't mean to do that" =)
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Oceania - 07-13-2011
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RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Nyu - 07-13-2011
There is a way to temporarily "accidently" penetrate the forgetting, but one may not like the answer.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - kycahi - 07-13-2011
(07-13-2011, 07:50 AM)Ankh Wrote: ...who would come, sit next to us and talk for a little while. We would be drinking beer, they would be drinking Ambrosia or whatever they prefered. Just be in each other's company for a little while, enjoying each other in the real life without all that serious-ness that exists in the world many times." Yeah, that would be something...Trouble is, Ankh, I would cry like a baby when they had to go.
I remember a rather miserable time of life when I imagined that, while I ran around the block at night, a craft landed in the school yard and cool aliens called me over for a mood booster. They said, "Hang in there Lee, we promise it will get better, and you will do good things," etc. It was imaginary, but I did get a lift from it. I had forgotten about that until now.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Ankh - 07-13-2011
(07-13-2011, 12:53 PM)kycahi Wrote:(07-13-2011, 07:50 AM)Ankh Wrote: ...who would come, sit next to us and talk for a little while. We would be drinking beer, they would be drinking Ambrosia or whatever they prefered. Just be in each other's company for a little while, enjoying each other in the real life without all that serious-ness that exists in the world many times." Yeah, that would be something...Trouble is, Ankh, I would cry like a baby when they had to go.
Ah, who am I kidding? Me too, brother!
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Zygra - 07-13-2011
Lets do that sometime after we are finished here. Shouldnt be too long it seems. We could teleport to the beach at day. Just sit in the sun and drink beer while the blondes consume that Ambrosia. I would have 4 blondes, one at my lap, two where I can properly reach them and one behind me giving me a massage. They would all be dressed in bikinis, ofc. At night we would be piss drunk and go to town. There we could holigan around till late morning and create the biggest noise ever. Start fights, dominate the streets, make small children cry and just behave like total a*******.
sigh....I would never be able to stop making blonde jokes.
...so.. we are in this forest, right ?
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Raman - 07-13-2011
I ask the Galactic Logos to intervene...I am tired very tired.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - zack231 - 07-13-2011
I agree I do not think it is possible to penetrate the denser bodies the third density body would not allow it. But there are some extraordinary things that people can do or learn through disciplined meditation such as healing and manipulation of the physical illusion. Like this very interesting man:
Love and Light
We are One
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Nyu - 07-13-2011
Yeah that guy is amazing! His level is probably the best one can achieve through *normal* methods
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Tenet Nosce - 07-14-2011
Interesting idea!
Sometimes I imagine there is "another me" who has just died, and is in the process of completing a life review, that happens to be observing me here now in this very moment.
What might that other me have to say to myself? Never a dull communication there.
Sometimes, I even imagine I am the Galactic Logos, looking back on its Creation in the very last moments of 8D, before heading off to a new adventure. I wonder what it might have to say to humanity?
(07-13-2011, 07:30 PM)Raman Wrote: I ask the Galactic Logos to intervene...I am tired very tired.What if you are the Galactic Logos, in the process of intervention?
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - 3DMonkey - 07-14-2011
Watching that video brought back childhood memories- a time when I believed I was "this" close to doing it.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - zack231 - 07-14-2011
What I also found interesting dont know whether you guys picked it up.. You probably did but when he went on his year long meditation on his own he said he saw what was coming and that " The world was going through a great change, and that the old wisdom was being replaced" Ie 4th density.He also said that everyone has the power inside them that it just has to be tapped into with meditation.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - 3DMonkey - 07-14-2011
It makes me look at how many many blockages I have created for myself. I don't need a color to attach them to. I can simply review myself and see that I block right and left.
The justification is that it is wise discernment. This is delusion. I am here to experience and I block possible experience all on my own. I tend to deny myself what I obviously want to explore because I think I can see the outcome. I see my own folly and continue.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Zygra - 07-14-2011
(07-13-2011, 07:30 PM)Raman Wrote: I ask the Galactic Logos to intervene...I am tired very tired.I feel with you. This has gone on for a very long time (for 3d) and we are all fatigued. I have managed to clean up the sludge blocking my energy centers so energy is flowing. But it is not blocking that is causing me the pain now. I am able to differentiate it better now as the pain of the blocking is gone. This pain is simple weariness. Being worn out.Not physicly as i am quite fit. I eat well and keep check on my physical health. No, this is weariness of the spirit.
I forgot to thank you Ankh. Your simple act of kindness touched and warmed my heart. I was able to walk easier that day. Indeed, I am not alone.
One final remark on the topic. In my oppinion I believe each awake being should focus on genuinly effecting the earth and its inhabitants with the love and energy of the creator. Time to be spent on weighting towards light and love.
love
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Ankh - 07-14-2011
(07-14-2011, 05:59 PM)Zygra Wrote: I forgot to thank you Ankh. Your simple act of kindness touched and warmed my heart. I was able to walk easier that day. Indeed, I am not alone.
Now you made my day. Thank you!
I saw this beautiful quote from Q'uo today that moved me:
Q'uo Wrote:This is the hour in which you can choose another way.
In the face of fear, remember love.
In the face of anger, remember compassion.
In the face of disunity, remember union. For are you not part of everyone and everything that you meet?
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Tenet Nosce - 07-15-2011
(07-13-2011, 07:30 PM)Raman Wrote: I ask the Galactic Logos to intervene...I am tired very tired.
I discuss some very similar feelings here in Self-disgust and other observations. That was over five years ago, and I remember at the time I thought the feeling might never pass. I remember thinking, either this a breakdown, or a breakthrough. Fortunately for me, it turned out to be the latter. Some very good advice for me in there that I think you may enjoy.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Bring4th_Steve - 07-15-2011
(07-15-2011, 01:47 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Some very good advice for me in there that I think you may enjoy.
Yeah, thanks for including that! It's amazing how "timeless" a lot of our experiences are along the path of awakening, isn't it? Things that I've personally experienced in the 1990s are things that I discuss with people who are just starting to awaken. It's very cool to be able to look back and compare notes. Many times I often say, "Man, I wrote THAT?! That is so not me!!"
Thanks for the share!
Steve
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Ankh - 07-15-2011
(07-15-2011, 01:59 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Many times I often say, "Man, I wrote THAT?! That is so not me!!"
I so know that! Another thing is time. It has somehow become... I can't find the right words for it... but when I look back it feels like ages ago and then I see that it has only been some months ago, and - not more O_o?
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Oceania - 07-15-2011
indeed! it's really weird.
RE: Penetrating the Forgetting - Namaste - 07-15-2011
"This is the hour in which you can choose another way"
Marvellous :¬)
"The moment contains love"
Steve: Indeed, and it's humbling when you meet another person starting their journey, seeing that passion for the metaphysical, saying the things you used to say. I can't help but think "enjoy your new life, brother/sister", with a big smile on my face :¬)
Ankh, I have exactly the same, only with recent days and weeks! They seem to be a distant memory.