Quote:64.5 Questioner: Can you tell me why the slight error made in the ritual starting this communication two sessions ago allowed the intrusion of one Orion affiliated entity?

Ra: I am Ra. This contact is narrow-band and its preconditions precise. The other-self offering its service in the negative path also is possessed of the skill of the swordsman. You deal in this contact with, shall we say, forces of great intensity poured into a vessel as delicateas a snowflake and as crystalline.

The smallest of lapses may disturb the regularity of this pattern of energies which forms the channel for these transmissions.

(05-09-2016, 07:30 AM)YinYang Wrote:

Parsons Wrote:I studied the material as the 'detached, objective scientist'. IMO, Don also approached the whole endeavor with the same attitude. If you are detached from the material, you certainly aren't integrating what is learned.

While Don was a scientist, and described his approach as scientific in the intro, I never experienced him as detached. Carla always said she never saw him as happy as after a session, and he physically jumped up and down with the first contact, someone who is usually very reserved.

For someone to say "I personally will not cease while still incarnate to disseminate this.", doesn't really appear to me as a detached, scientific attitude. I don't know I personally experienced him very passionate...   Best questioner we could have hoped for.

Don Elkins Wrote:This book is an exact transcript from tape recordings of twentysix
sessions of an experiment designed to communicate with an extraterrestrial
being. We started the experiment in 1962 and refined the process for nineteen
years. In 1981 the experimental results of our efforts changed profoundly in
quality and precision. This book is simply a report of the beginning of this
latter phase of our work.

Since our experimental work began, and even before we officially formed a
research group, there was considerable confusion about the nature of our
research. I would like to state that I consider my point of view to be purely
scientific. Many readers of this material have used as a basis for its
evaluation a previously assumed philosophical bias which has ranged from
what I would call objectively scientific to subjectively theological. It is not
the purpose of our research group to attempt to do anything other than
make experimental data available. Each reader will undoubtedly reach his
own unique conclusion about the meaning of this body of data.

Quote:he didn't have the protection of love/faith that sustained Carla.

Quote:Questioner: Then is it correct that a good sequence for developing the invocation of the magical personality are alternate meditations, first on power, then a meditation on love, and then a meditation on wisdom and to continue cycling that way? Is that an appropriate technique?

Ra: I am Ra. This is indeed an appropriate technique. In this particular group there is an additional aid in that each entity manifests one of these qualities in a manner which approaches the archetype. Thusly visualization may be personalized and much love and support within the group generated.

Quote:Ra: Secondly, that which we and you do in workings such as this carries a magical charge, if you would use this much misunderstood term. Perhaps we may say a metaphysical power. Those who do work of power are available for communication to and from entities of roughly similar power. It is fortunate that the Orion entity does not have the native power of this group. However, it is quite disciplined whereas this group lacks the finesse equivalent to its power. Each is working in consciousness but the group has not begun a work as a group. The individual work is helpful, for the group is mutually an aid, one to another.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The love and devotion of this group misses nothing. Be at peace. There is some toll for this work. This instrument embraces this or we could not speak. Rest then in that peace and love and do as you will, as you wish, as you feel. Let there be an end to worry when this is accomplished. The great healer of distortions is love.

(05-19-2016, 05:41 PM)Kaaron Wrote: Side question: Did anyone get the feeling that the fifth density "friend" was somehow connected to Don?

(05-20-2016, 08:54 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:

(05-19-2016, 05:41 PM)Kaaron Wrote: Side question: Did anyone get the feeling that the fifth density "friend" was somehow connected to Don?

Well, Carla mentions in book 5 I believe that Don had spoken to Jim about potentially making some sort of "pact" with the negative entity - and something like that I'm sure reverberates backwards and forwards in time. But who knows.

(05-23-2016, 08:37 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Just L/L lore I've acquired through the years. I'm not sure if that info is in Book 5 or not, likely not if it's not somewhat common knowledge.

(05-09-2016, 04:50 AM)Parsons Wrote: I have been trying to understand what happened to Don for years now. I think I may have been (or perhaps may still be?) on the same path as him. I want to continue this experience, so I think you can understand my earnest attempts to understand.

I recently stumbled on this quote from session 35. Please keep in mind I am not directly comparing Don to Adolf Hitler or suggesting that he was on the negative path.

35.4 Wrote:Questioner: I would now like to ask for the same type of information with respect to Adolf Hitler. You have given a little of this already. It is not necessary to re-cover what you have already given, but if you could complete that information it would be helpful.

Ra: I am Ra. In speaking of the one you call Adolf we have some difficulty due to the intense amount of confusion present in this entity’s life patterns as well as the great confusion which greets any discussion of this entity.

Here we see an example of one who, in attempting activation of the highest rays of energy while lacking the green-ray key, canceled itself out as far as polarization either towards positive or negative. This entity was basically negative. However, its confusion was such that the personality disintegrated, thus leaving the mind/body/spirit complex unharvestable and much in need of healing.

This entity followed the pattern of negative polarization which suggests the elite and the enslaved, this being seen by the entity to be of an helpful nature for the societal structure. However, in drifting from the conscious polarization into what you may call a twilight world where dream took the place of events in your space/time continuum, this entity failed in its attempt to serve the Creator in an harvestable degree along the path of service to self. Thus we see the so-called insanity which may often arise when an entity attempts to polarize more quickly than experience may be integrated.

We have advised and suggested caution and patience in previous communications and do so again, using this entity as an example of the over-hasty opening of polarization without due attention to the synthesized and integrated mind/body/spirit complex. To know your self is to have the foundation upon firm ground.

I think if you apply this knowledge to the positive polarity, it is equally possible for this to happen. Since we do not know Don's thoughts, nobody can say for sure. I can say that I was extremely earnest in my attempts to understand the Ra Material and polarize on the positive path, which was a very far cry from what I was doing before I "woke up". I just wanted to learn as quickly as I could intellectually, but did very little to integrate the knowledge I was learning. I studied the material as the 'detached, objective scientist'. IMO, Don also approached the whole endeavor with the same attitude. If you are detached from the material, you certainly aren't integrating what is learned.

There is also another similar quote in the material that says something to the effect of: 'if knowledge isn't used, the training tools become negative'. I must be wording it differently because I can't seem to find it. However, once I first ran across that quote, I slammed on the brakes and only carefully proceed with Seeking once I can be sure I have integrated the knowledge I have intellectually learned.

(05-23-2016, 08:37 AM)Jade Wrote: Just L/L lore I've acquired through the years. I'm not sure if that info is in Book 5 or not, likely not if it's not somewhat common knowledge. Carla spoke candidly about it, and obviously never had the slightest problem with it. But yeah, she was "his", which makes it even crazier that he allowed Jim's presence in the way he did (though I think their relationship was mutually co-dependent, so when he was clear-headed, he likely knew that Carla definitely was "his").

But yeah, she gave up things she really loved for him: An outside job (as a librarian) - he basically made her quit and come work for him. When he was flying, she had more freedom, but when he was home, she had to be by his side and dote on him. I mean, Don's from a completely other generation - he was born in 1930, he'd be 86, old enough to be my grandpa, who definitely wasn't the most progressive thinker I knew about women. I mean obviously Don was very progressive, and I don't think he was sexist (I think he was a misanthrope actually; read when Carla talks about their "energy exchange" and how she finally understood how Don saw the world - fearfully) he was just very obsessed with being in Carla's presence. But yes, definitely something unbalanced for a negative entity to exploit...

(05-20-2016, 09:37 AM)YinYang Wrote: I always wondered why Carla ended the book with "Never, NEVER make a deal with the loyal opposition!"