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Living the LOO - Lorna - 04-18-2009
How much do you think you live the Law of One? For example, how much do you really see the creator in the people around you?
I think it took a good couple of years after reading the LOO before I really started to connect it to my daily life and interactions with other people, and but I still feel like an absolute novice lol!
But I go through peaks where I feel dazzlingly connected - it's a lovely feeling - today felt a bit like that
RE: Living the LOO - zenmaster - 04-19-2009
(04-18-2009, 05:51 PM)Lorna Wrote: How much do you think you live the Law of One? For example, how much do you really see the creator in the people around you?Like on a scale of 1 to 10?
RE: Living the LOO - Lorna - 04-19-2009
not really, i'm just thinking out loud i guess - sorry! bad habit!
when i think back to my connection with the LOO when i first read it, it made perfect sense in my head
it's very different now, when it makes sense to my heart and i 'feel' it with a certainty that is not based in simply agreeing with the concepts presented by Ra
it's interesting, to me, how gradual my absorption of the material has been in terms of it making a difference to how i think, feel and interact with others
and i guess i wondered if that experience was true of other people
RE: Living the LOO - zenmaster - 04-19-2009
(04-19-2009, 02:49 PM)Lorna Wrote: it's very different now, when it makes sense to my heart and i 'feel' it with a certainty that is not based in simply agreeing with the concepts presented by RaI think being congruent with some understanding is an aspect of 'faith'. We accept what we find works for us on some level. To the extent we discover that more honesty leads to even more acceptance, we go deeper and accept it as a part of our own nature and, simultaneously and automatically, that of the universe itself.
I like the explanation of one is all, in the dialectical monist terms provided by Ra. Much of it is simple, obvious, practical, and relatively free of superficial bias, and this makes it a compelling guide for many existential lines of inquiry.
RE: Living the LOO - Purple Dragon - 05-06-2009
I haven't completely finished reading all of the LOO books yet (just over half way) but from what I have learned so far is everything in perception can relate back to the LOO. I find it simply amazing at how well the philosophy just fits. Every word Ra has said I believe in, it just brings everything together.
I am very glad that i found these teachings, they really help everything make sense
RE: Living the LOO - yossarian - 05-07-2009
It definitely just grows slowly the more you do it.
I have definitely slowly improved over the years in my ability to see the Creator in others, to see the Creator in the creation about me, and to see the Creator in myself.
Seeking love in the moment - the most effective of all the exercises - is more difficult for me sometimes. Sometimes I am super in love with everything and I just feel like a big lighthouse of love, and other times I feel like a puppy who tries to walk but keeps falling down and can't quite figure out why.
But looking back, there has definitely been gradual improvement over the years, so it certainly works.
RE: Living the LOO - Richard - 05-07-2009
Quote:Lorna wrote:
How much do you think you live the Law of One? For example, how much do you really see the creator in the people around you?
Quote:Yossarian wrote:
Seeking love in the moment - the most effective of all the exercises
Living in the now AND seeking the love in the moment …I’m working with these constantly now. Living in the now is coming easier, though I do forget about it as I get busier. Seeking the love in every moment requires me, most of the time, to stop what I’m doing and set my intent.
Seeing the creator in all things? I looked in the mirror the other day…and all I could think was…”Damn, I thought the creator would have been better looking”. Seriously though..this concept always requires me to stop, set my intent and ponder from that point on.
I sometimes, when driving, use mirroring techniques to try and feel unity…or “as one” with all the other drivers on the road. Actually, the morning and evening commute in heavy traffic is (and has been) my…I guess?…forge?…for learning patience and acceptance of others.
I avoided large metropolitan areas for years because I hated traffic. But financial opportunities lead me to the 4th largest city in the USA and all its associated traffic issues. And its been…enlightening, to say the least. Good for me also…making the choice has made me work with anger and impatience issues that I had been avoiding for decades.
If nothing else, living here….sure makes one believe that maybe there was a plan and everything is just as it should be right now.
Richard
RE: Living the LOO - MarkM - 05-21-2009
(05-07-2009, 02:28 PM)Richard Wrote:Quote:Lorna wrote:
How much do you think you live the Law of One? For example, how much do you really see the creator in the people around you?
Quote:Yossarian wrote:
Seeking love in the moment - the most effective of all the exercises
Living in the now AND seeking the love in the moment …I’m working with these constantly now. Living in the now is coming easier, though I do forget about it as I get busier. Seeking the love in every moment requires me, most of the time, to stop what I’m doing and set my intent.
Seeing the creator in all things? I looked in the mirror the other day…and all I could think was…”Damn, I thought the creator would have been better looking”. Seriously though..this concept always requires me to stop, set my intent and ponder from that point on.
I sometimes, when driving, use mirroring techniques to try and feel unity…or “as one” with all the other drivers on the road. Actually, the morning and evening commute in heavy traffic is (and has been) my…I guess?…forge?…for learning patience and acceptance of others.
I avoided large metropolitan areas for years because I hated traffic. But financial opportunities lead me to the 4th largest city in the USA and all its associated traffic issues. And its been…enlightening, to say the least. Good for me also…making the choice has made me work with anger and impatience issues that I had been avoiding for decades.
If nothing else, living here….sure makes one believe that maybe there was a plan and everything is just as it should be right now.
Richard
Interesting you bring up the traffic angle, as I'm stuck in heavy urban traffic for two hours a day! With such a large part of my day spent so occupied, I do attempt to make good use of this time in the sense of knowing that I wouldn't be in this situation if there weren't learn/teach potential here.
As for investing myself with seeing others as self, it's not hard to put myself in the driver's seat of the others on the road. Let's face it - we all would rather the journey be shorter than longer, and yet we're all in a queue, as in a bank line up. I've never seen anyone attempt to jump the queue in a bank, yet on the road, we are privy to some common yet dastardly acts of 'cutting', as it were.
It may be that in traffic, we're all more in touch with some more primal aspects of ourselves, in the sense of what we do when there's little chance of having to answer face to face with someone, as in cutting up the line in a bank. I find that more often than not, those who cut me off in traffic tend to stare straight ahead, not countenancing my 'personhood' by finding my eye. In traffic, you can more openly show your true colours, not having to answer for your transgressions; and this makes the whole traffic thing an interesting laboratory for interaction, almost as in an expose of human behavior minus social paradigms of learned social politeness.
I have driven for many years, and know of my culpability in this regard; and yet more recently am realizing the value of this particular forum of learning and my continuing efforts to see myself in the faceless drivers that I encounter on the road, beyond the sense of having to answer for my driving transgressions, and trying to get past the 'not having to answer', faceless aspect that would see me going service to self, in trying to cut, weave, and value my time more than the other fellow.
A lesson for me here, in attempting to make the most of my time on the road - as we're all kinda different versions of the same entity, and true kindness and unconditional love for our other selves is not lessened by lack of face to face culpability. I do attempt to make the most of this peculiar state of affairs to practice love unconditioned by the relativistic aspect of not having to personally answer for my driving habits face to face, and make the most of being polite on the road, even if Joe Charger feels he needs to bump bumpers with me to shave two seconds off his homing time.
That's what he needs to do, so it's up to me to let him pass, and without guile, proceed with the knowledge that this is his right; and my right is to relinquish the urge to absorb his emotions, and let him thru. He is me in another state of being, and so I continue to find that the road is a powerful catalyst and an ongoing challenge to love, in a powerful and concentrated sense.
The road continues to offer lessons in regard to humanity, removed from times in which social mores have dictated more of a 'polite' surface veneer of expected behaviour, and pausing to let someone in to traffic, or simply allowing drivers into the stream of traffic, just because it's the right thing to do, multiplies the potential of this being seen and replicated by other drivers. I might get home a few seconds later, but the value of applying the LOO here is for me very powerful application of my time spent on the road. Mark
RE: Living the LOO - βαθμιαίος - 05-22-2009
I have wondered if aggressive behavior in traffic is one of the things Ra was thinking of in this quote from session 34:
Quote:Others of your gadgets may be seen to be tools whereby the entity explores the capabilities of its physical or mental complexes and in some few cases, the spiritual complex, thus activating the orange ray in what you call your team sports and in other gadgets such as your modes of transport. These may be seen to be ways of investigating the feelings of power; more especially, power over others or a group power over another group of other-selves.
RE: Living the LOO - 3D Sunset - 05-22-2009
MarkM Wrote:It may be that in traffic, we're all more in touch with some more primal aspects of ourselves, in the sense of what we do when there's little chance of having to answer face to face with someone, as in cutting up the line in a bank. I find that more often than not, those who cut me off in traffic tend to stare straight ahead, not countenancing my 'personhood' by finding my eye.
Welcome MarkM, it's great to see you on this forum. I always try to make the driving experience more personal by making eye contact ans smiling. I've found that, when I need to change lanes for example, making eye contact invariably allows people to lower their guard as it were, and even return my friendly smile. I also try to do the same when people want to cut infornt of me. Again, when they make eye contact, they are usually friendly rather than inpersonal.
3D Sunset
RE: Living the LOO - ayadew - 05-22-2009
When I drive, I'm on mental autopilot and my head in thoughts mostly. Often I lose track of time from the moment I left until I arrive. This may be minutes or hours, it's all the same. Thus I am quite neutral to driving, but you have interesting thoughts MarkM.
It's very hard to be of service while driving. Some people appreciates if you drive slow, so that they also slow down. Some only get frustrated, so you have to increase your speed if you're in their lane.
RE: Living the LOO - fairyfarmgirl - 05-22-2009
I prefer public transportation or someone else to do the driving. I find all the coming and goings and turning and entering of traffic to be very stressful to keep track of it all.. never mind listening and deciphering the conversations of 3 children and an adult passenger. I do not enjoy driving when there are others sharing the road with me. I like driving on country roads and empty freeways.
fairyfarmgirl
RE: Living the LOO - Richard - 05-22-2009
(05-22-2009, 11:38 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I prefer public transportation or someone else to do the driving. I find all the coming and goings and turning and entering of traffic to be very stressful to keep track of it all.. never mind listening and deciphering the conversations of 3 children and an adult passenger. I do not enjoy driving when there are others sharing the road with me. I like driving on country roads and empty freeways.
fairyfarmgirl
Quote:I like driving on country roads and empty freeways.
Me too! But that doesn’t seem to be where I’ve found myself. Like Mark, I’m on the road 2 hrs a day. But when we do get away…we purposely leave the superhighways behind and search out the country roads and small towns.
Richard
RE: Living the LOO - Phoenix - 05-22-2009
Since we're in the Living the LOO thread.
When I'm doing stuff sometimes I get out an archetype and contemplate it.
Just an idea for those long road journeys. Book IV etc.
RE: Living the LOO - eva - 05-28-2009
Hi!
In stressful or difficult situation, I ask myself - Was Love contained? Was service freely given?
And answering these shows me what to do or how to act/react at best.
RE: Living the LOO - Vince - 06-01-2009
(04-18-2009, 05:51 PM)Lorna Wrote: How much do you think you live the Law of One? For example, how much do you really see the creator in the people around you?although i intellectually realize that all people are connected on an energy level, it's hard for me to feel connected to others if they don't also possess the same realization.
I think it took a good couple of years after reading the LOO before I really started to connect it to my daily life and interactions with other people, and but I still feel like an absolute novice lol!
But I go through peaks where I feel dazzlingly connected - it's a lovely feeling - today felt a bit like that
RE: Living the LOO - pluralone - 06-02-2009
Oh boy. I hear that, Vince.
And there I was feeling all smug because I could so deeply relate to what MarkM wrote about lessons learned and the love that can be expressed while driving in heavy traffic, but you (Vince) snapped me out of my smugness because I can also relate only too well to feeling somewhat put-upon for so often being the one individual acting from a place of love while so many of those around me are acting from a place of anything but.
Not liking it at all when I catch smug feelings inside, I thank you for that.
plur
RE: Living the LOO - Vince - 06-02-2009
(06-02-2009, 12:17 AM)pluralone Wrote: but you (Vince) snapped me out of my smugness because I can also relate only too well to feeling somewhat put-upon for so often being the one individual acting from a place of love while so many of those around me are acting from a place of anything but.i'm just sharing my own personal experience, but i often feel like that. i'm not quite sure what the best solution is, if others may not be attempting to practice a unity which originates from a higher level of understanding. do i attempt to manipulate their subconscious brains into being unitive (with no conscious effort on their parts), or do i just try to avoid them and do my own thing instead?
RE: Living the LOO - βαθμιαίος - 06-02-2009
(06-02-2009, 03:38 PM)Vince Wrote: i'm just sharing my own personal experience, but i often feel like that. i'm not quite sure what the best solution is, if others may not be attempting to practice a unity which originates from a higher level of understanding. do i attempt to manipulate their subconscious brains into being unitive (with no conscious effort on their parts), or do i just try to avoid them and do my own thing instead?
For what it's worth, this is how Ra said they dealt with similar situations on their planet:
Session 89 Wrote:Questioner: What was the attitude prior to harvest of those harvestable entities of Ra with respect to those who were obviously unharvestable?
Ra: I am Ra. Those of us which had the gift of polarity felt deep compassion for those who seemed to dwell in darkness. This description is most apt as ours was a harshly bright planet in the physical sense. There was every attempt made to reach out with whatever seemed to be needed. However, those upon the positive path have the comfort of companions and we of Ra spent a great deal of our attention upon the possibilities of achieving spiritual or metaphysical adepthood or work in indigo ray through the means of relationships with other-selves. Consequently, the compassion for those in darkness was balanced by the appreciation of the light.
RE: Living the LOO - Vince - 06-02-2009
(06-02-2009, 03:54 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: For what it's worth, this is how Ra said they dealt with similar situations on their planet:
Session 89 Wrote:Questioner: What was the attitude prior to harvest of those harvestable entities of Ra with respect to those who were obviously unharvestable?
Ra: I am Ra. Those of us which had the gift of polarity felt deep compassion for those who seemed to dwell in darkness. This description is most apt as ours was a harshly bright planet in the physical sense. There was every attempt made to reach out with whatever seemed to be needed. However, those upon the positive path have the comfort of companions and we of Ra spent a great deal of our attention upon the possibilities of achieving spiritual or metaphysical adepthood or work in indigo ray through the means of relationships with other-selves. Consequently, the compassion for those in darkness was balanced by the appreciation of the light.
so how might this affect those who dwell in darkness, if at all?
RE: Living the LOO - βαθμιαίος - 06-02-2009
I think the point is that they have free will. Reach out with whatever seems to be needed, but if they choose to remain in darkness, that's their prerogative. Meanwhile, we can bring light and love to the planet as we enjoy the comfort of companions on the positive path.
RE: Living the LOO - Vince - 06-02-2009
okay, thanks.
i attend a group with some people together every other week. i enjoy it very much.
RE: Living the LOO - irpsit - 06-09-2009
(05-07-2009, 11:10 AM)yossarian Wrote: Seeking love in the moment - the most effective of all the exercises - is more difficult for me sometimes. Sometimes I am super in love with everything and I just feel like a big lighthouse of love, and other times I feel like a puppy who tries to walk but keeps falling down and can't quite figure out why.
But looking back, there has definitely been gradual improvement over the years, so it certainly works.
For me yes! The same situation!
When I don't feel so well, I try to ask where is love at that moment, how can I bring up love.
And, when driving in the heavy traffic, or in the underground surrounded by thousands of others, I try to feel the unity, I try to feel the joy and magic of nature and of love in the moment.
And several times I imagine myself sending waves of light.
RE: Living the LOO - paddy - 09-29-2009
Quote:...Consequently, the compassion for those in darkness was balanced by the appreciation of the light...
so how might this affect those who dwell in darkness, if at all?
This seems to link to ideas of Buddhism, where compassion for those of suffering may allow one to psychically bridge to another in a way where their suffering burdens are eased. Its difficult to describe unless one's experienced it. The word compassion roots to ideas of feeling together, of communing together in ways that may facilitate healing.
In some regard, there may be no escape from Living the LOO, it just is - either conscious or not. I think for people who arrive to that realization may be better able to live in its harmony despite the apparent ignorance that goes on, both in themselves and others.
paddy
RE: Living the LOO - Vince - 09-29-2009
(05-22-2009, 08:39 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I have wondered if aggressive behavior in traffic is one of the things Ra was thinking of in this quote from session 34:it's long been my personal impression that an individual's general behavior (and interactive tendencies) in traffic tend to be an intensified expression of how people interact with others (family members, co-workers, etc.) in their everyday lives. one's traffic behavior may potentially alert an individual how they may be treating and/or reacting to others off of the road. in traffic, we are often forced into excessively close contact with a large cluster of absolute strangers under pressure. the same may even be said when shopping at the grocery store during primetime hours.
RE: Living the LOO - paddy - 09-30-2009
Some people connect nighttime dreams containing cars as messages related to karma. There may also be some metaphor to the body as a vehicle.
There's some "cash for clunker" program that offers some people incentive to trade in their old car with poor gas mileage for the new car with good gas mileage.
Sometimes I ponder that so much energy is required to form a car that it may be saving energy just keeping the old ones going, regardless of gas mileage. Other times I ponder how consumerism is fed by some sort of disposable attitude.
In regards to the Ra materials, possibly there is some connection to life-form age and density. Do higher densities have longer lifespans? Could there be some relation between a being's degree of disposable attitude and their lifespan?
Ra alludes to the lessons of Power in connection to vehicles. Could it be that less powerful vehicles offer some advantage in some regard? This may relate to physical differences between men and women, and ideas related to self reliance versus social reliance.
paddy
RE: Living the LOO - Plenum - 04-23-2012
(04-18-2009, 05:51 PM)Lorna Wrote: How much do you think you live the Law of One? For example, how much do you really see the creator in the people around you?
I think it took a good couple of years after reading the LOO before I really started to connect it to my daily life and interactions with other people, and but I still feel like an absolute novice lol!
But I go through peaks where I feel dazzlingly connected - it's a lovely feeling - today felt a bit like that
I think there is a simple equation that speaks to the level of 'oneness' that one might experience.
level of acceptance of the self = level of acceptance of others
it is nigh on impossible to disapprove of something in yourself (lack of forgiveness) and not to then project this 'disapproval' onto others.
- -
to speak directly to your question; my appreciation of the unity of all things has grown in direct proportion to my understanding of the Lovers Card (archetype 6).
RE: Living the LOO - JustLikeYou - 04-24-2012
Along the way, I have met people who, though they claim to believe in metaphysical principles such as karma and the identity of your beliefs about yourself and others, they still do not accept that these principles are always true.
As you suggest, plenum, observing the archetypes in my daily life has not only further elucidated these principles, but also shown that they hold in every situation, regardless of the details. That I do not always see it is only a testament to my lack of understanding and not to the stability of the principles themselves.
Living the Law of One has become easier now that I do not put as much emphasis on quantity as I do on quality. Sometimes I see people acting wild and dramatic. And when I see this, it is difficult to see the wildly dramatic side of myself. This is only because I do not display the same quantity of drama that I am witnessing. The drama is still there in quality, and that is what is being shown to me, quantity notwithstanding. This applies to the rigidity I see in my corporate job, the nervousness in my boss, the stubbornness in my wife, etc. I may not be nearly as nervous a person as my boss is, but I must still be somewhat nervous or I wouldn't see it in him.
This ability to identify with others, even in the most extreme permutations of any given quality, has given me a tendency toward compassion which makes the entire process easier. Because I know what these emotions and neuroses feel like, it is easier to have compassion on others who are going through them.