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Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 01-31-2022 I have a suspicion that I may have been a negative-polarity wanderer or, phrased more appropriately, a negative-polarity entity who wandered so as to embrace the positive polarity. I say, "suspicion," because that is all I can confidently say as to the extent of my self-knowledge. I reflect often on the course of my life. I meditate not as often as I would like. I try to document my dreams when I can--and more often, I find the journaling unnecessary, spontaneously remembering dreams and series of dreams. I have seen and continue to see the gleam and glimmer of coincidence, or synchronicity, or parallel theme, among my life circumstance in conjunction with my thoughts, with what I perceive of as major life events, and with the lives of others. I have had some seeming success with the method of automatic writing, or, maybe, partially automatic writing, as described here, here, and here. Quote:There is no such thing as being able, without any doubt whatsoever, to know that you are communicating with your guidance. There is a reason for this unknowing. Each entity within third density is given complete free will to choose those things which he desires. And that which he desires shall be given unto him. In this atmosphere of free will, it is not desirable from the standpoint of spiritual growth that there be some way to test and prove spiritual events or influences. Quote:... There is also the technique of writing, which is sometimes utilized to make a similar kind of communication, where you write upon a page the question that you ask, then, as you feel a response in your mind, you write or channel that response onto the paper. Oftentimes, this is described as automatic writing, but in this instance, this is a response to a specific query, not simply writing which takes an energy upon itself to begin. Quote:... each individual seeker who wishes to become more aware of its own life path may explore the possibilities of discovering the pre-incarnative choices through meditative practice in which the question is asked at the beginning of such a meditation as to how the life pattern may be enhanced to become congruent with the previous or pre-incarnative choices. The dream state may also be utilized by such a seeker of truth who wishes to know more if its own means by which it may be of service, so that the utilization of messages from the unconscious mind through dreams could be a means by which this process of discovery could be practiced. So, my writing here will be in part synthesis and, also, part genesis. I will be including reflections I wrote prior to now. I will be, as you can see, including excerpts from LLresearch where I feel some "backup" might be necessary. I will--and I say this now to you and to my guidance--try to accept as much as possible of the intuition, of that ever inner and deeper self. Now, the tool of analysis has been written about at some length also. So, it is my wish that this tool, a tool which I believe I have some grasp of, perhaps to a degree of over-reliance, will come to rest in the hand of intuition, or that they will be hand-in-hand, so to speak. Quote:L/Leema: Quote:Q'uo:I am aware already that my writing can be verbose. Already, I attempted to go back and erase some of the excerpts I had already copied-in, but I decided to restore the text because I lapsed into a coughing fit as soon as I had pressed the delete-key. The coughing subsided when the text was restored. Is this just coincidence? Maybe - but this is the sort of sign I will rely on. It is my hope that, despite the verbosity, the writing will, again, be part synthesis and part genesis. I wish to elucidate even more of my own story both for myself, and, more importantly, to hopefully generate an intriguing discussion and examination of the relevant concepts in general. When I say "more importantly, to hopefully generate ... " this is somewhat dishonest. I should say that it is my hope to hope that this writing will be useful to someone besides myself. As you can see already, I still have some residual frustration, or worry, or confusion about my identity. It is perhaps more honest to say that I am hoping for help as much I am hoping to help. Maybe by accident, whatever 'help' I provide will squeak over to that much sought-after 51% mark. I am providing this belabored prologue also because I am aware of the suspicions in general around negative entities and negative philosophy. I have asked permission to post my own suspicion, story, and reflection, and received approval. It is not my intention whatsoever to promulgate nor preach a negative philosophy. Where my reflections on power or wisdom veer in that direction, please accept it as a function of my ongoing self-discovery, of my attempts to root it in the positive, and not as any sort of subtle, sinister advisement. OK. Moving onward. I have shared excerpts from my natal astrology elsewhere but, since Ra has advised that the astrological conditions of an entity are of only minor significance, I will transcribe again only those few portions which seem keenly relevant: Quote:... "There is always a sense of confusion around the child as to what really happened" ... Quote:... "immediate sense of this one was of a soul/spirit trying to decide of he really WANTED to stay here" ...... and some mention of my past lives being fairly exclusively 'mystical' - religious leader, astrologer, healer, priest. I'm more dubious of the past lives predictions and the other astrological reading than I am of those two directly-quoted lines. Why would my birth be an event of confusion (for anyone except, apparently, myself)? I was born ten weeks premature, that is true, and immediately I was beset with respiratory illness and, detected even in prenatal screening, a severe and chronic adrenal dysfunction. My illnesses certainly caused some panic, but more so among the medical staff than my parents. In fact, my mother has often recounted one dramatic incident where all the alarms and whistles on every machine was blaring, the doctors and nurses scrambled, and all she wanted to do was ... hold me. A nurse said no, my mother insisted--my mama bear--and as soon as the nurses and doctors handed me over to her, she pressed me to her chest, and the alarms and whistles fell quiet. She had wanted a child for years, and had even been told that she could never conceive a child; yet, here I was. From that perspective, my birth seems to be an auspicious event. Why, then, confusion? There was also, apparently, some reluctance on my part--despite being born prematurely. Maybe this makes some sense. Premature births, as I understand it, are more common in circumstances where the pregnancy threatens the mother. Sometimes, either the baby survives, or the mother survives. It could have been that I was, in fact, reluctant to arrive, and thus I would either go early or not at all? I imagine someone pacing about before a job interview or maybe a party, anxious, then resolving that the next seat they sit in will decide their fate. So, they hop in the car! Was there a similar amusing scene preceding my incarnation here? (I'm so sorry, it just slipped out. Pardon the pun. I couldn't resist.) Was the scene perhaps not amusing at all? Quote:Ra 48.6 Quote:36.16 Once the negatively polarized entity has reached a certain point in the wisdom density it becomes extremely unlikely that it will choose to risk the forgetting, for this polarization is not selfless but selfish and with wisdom realizes the jeopardy of such “wandering.” Occasionally a sixth-density negative entity becomes a Wanderer in an effort to continue to polarize towards the negative. This is extremely unusual.I can construct a number of tableaus in an attempt to guess at whatever series of events might have led me, personally, if I was a fifth-density negatively polarized entity, to instead jump into an incarnation on this earth. Suffice to say, the pervading feeling is that I betrayed a teacher or leader ... or that I myself as a teacher was scorned ... or some blend of that sort of circumstance. I had not yet reached that 'certain point' beyond which I would not hazard the forgetting and so, maybe out of spite, maybe out of an intention to 'get ahead,' or maybe out of a genuine desire to trod a different path - I walked away. Again, I feel I have no certainty as to this hypothesis. However, I do consider it a large point of evidence that I have had very few paranormal or spiritual experiences wherein I felt I had made contact with another or with other other entities. So, you could say, in a rehashing of that phrase, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence," that I am in fact taking absence to be evidence. After all, if I had, let's say, fled some outgrowth of the Orion Empire, or some other hierarchy of negative students and teachers, soldiers and leaders--would they ever give a friendly check-in? I have, in fact, received some vague visitations. Not completely absent.
More evidence for having been a negative, and specifically a fifth-density negatively-polarized entity, can be interpreted in the significant events and biases in my my current life-plan or life course. First, some excerpts to offer context: Quote:89.35 About them were soon gathered those who found it easy to believe that a series of specific knowledges and wisdoms would advance one towards the Creator. The end of this was the graduation into fourth-density negative of the Wanderers, which had much power of personality Quote:https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2019/1102 Quote:https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1986/0223 Quote:https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2020/0118Now, intriguingly, I have written before about what I describe as my 'iconoclasm.' It is written elsewhere that "we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Certainly, in the past I have been somewhat consumed by conspiracies of secret societies and world-spanning plots. And, even now, I take umbrage at all of those tyrannies what could be described as the vagaries of autocratic government (even under the guises of democracy and fairness). I won't delve into these, but suffice to say that I don't feel particularly beholden to these sorts of systems. ... However, occasionally, I have chastised others for their, let's say, cowardice, which resigns them to cooperating with these systems. (Hypocritical, too, since so far I still pay taxes, and vote, and file all sorts of government-requested paperwork.) And, certainly, I have found that the larger patterns of my life have revolved around the more personal or the more local concentrations of power. And, within these, usually the themes of power revolve around wisdom, or the appearance of wisdom, and the acquisition of it, and the proper use of it, and so on.
Even in the prologue to this write-up, I had expressed the hopes I have at learning more about myself, including learning from you all, and of generating discussion. Again, I have no intention to promulgate nor practice negative philosophy. However, in considering the lessons of wisdom, and arrogance in wisdom, and whether I have learned these lessons ... I might only be able to say that I have released, in most part, the entitlement I used to feel in gaining information. If no one replies here, will I thrash and rage and mourn and sob? No, likely not. But, in my past, I had often become impatient whenever I would ask questions, especially if I felt that another was offering me redundant or superfluous information along with whatever answer I felt was core to my query. I had often felt it was my right and duty to inspire and inform. And I had often felt it was up to me to 'put things in order.' In fact, I feel now that my story has become somewhat disordered. I still see the many other occasions where I seem to have expressed the negative -- and, also, occasions where I may have learned some lessons, and transfigured into the positive, and, even, some evidence of a larger positive bias ... but I am getting the impression that my writing here need not be a complete autobiography, nor even a balanced appraisal of my negative and positive experience. I have outlined my suspicions, so, I will speak a little about my actual "awakening," however much I have been awoken, anyways, and then end this current writing. So - I can summarize my seeking has having began in earnest just before or around the age of twelve. At some point, I simply had the notion that I should become more responsible, and moral, and disciplined--something like that. I can't remember the particular day, even though I was definitely self-aware before then - Quote:18.7 Questioner: As an entity in this density grows from childhood, he becomes more aware of his responsibilities. Is there an age below which an entity is not responsible or his— for his actions, or is he responsible from the time of birth? Anyways, from that point on my seeking proceeded in a more dedicated fashion, and, perhaps, somewhat rapidly. I immersed myself first in Christianity, following my father to a local Baptist church (though, ironically, I was not baptized there). As my father quickly left the church, so did I, though with some residual belief in an intentional creation, in human responsibility, and, thus, continuing to discover what it was to live properly. I received a decent foundation in the more secular avenues within moral philosophy, being drawn especially, almost equally, to the Greeks and the Germans (Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, then, Immanuel Kant). (For a time, I was also enamored with the Spartans and their concept of self-discipline, honor, and vitality). As my father (re-)turned to Eastern wisdom, so did I, with a focus on Buddhism (and, especially, the concepts of dharma and karma became of particular interest). Yet, having been acquainted with the varieties of mythology, especially regarding creation--as described by the Babylonians, by the Chinese, by the Maya--I felt that nirvāṇa was somewhat of a hollow concept. I had resonated strongly with Hinduism, perhaps a natural travel from Buddhism, and I resonated especially with concepts like the Causal Ocean, and ātman, and Brahman. Hinduism felt much more lively and populated, to me, while retaining the notion of the transcendental (yet, again, personal). I considered that creation might not be a wondrous exploration but, instead, a prison - such was my foray into Christian Gnosticism, which I held to for quite a while, convinced of the wiles of the Demiurge, the sorrow of Sophia, and the light of the pleroma yet to be reached. I realized that the world was too nice, despite the suffering I found in my life, to be ruled by a Demiurge. This was in large part due to my heavy experimentation with psychedelics. On my first 'trip,' where I combined a relatively small dose of psilocybin and a single tab of LSD, I became convinced that I had designed this universe for myself, for my own amusement, and that there was little at all to worry about. This wasn't always the theme of my trips, but, certainly, I felt more free, more alive, and more aware when under the influence of psychedelics. The motif of the pleroma, a glorious realm of light and, well, absolute truth, persisted somewhat--on one particularly heavy trip on a psilocin analog, I became convinced that I had gently chewed away and evaporated my body and become a miasma of iridescent light, just by climbing into my bed, and that every small movement, every turn of my head was in fact the unfathomably large gestures of ... something. However, that experience, though profound, was mostly aesthetic in nature. What I would call my "awakening" came somewhat earlier, during a heavy LSD trip. LSD had been my preference, and so it was during one of these trips, perhaps my third or fourth, that I felt aware, spontaneously, that every conceivable point in space around me had a 'coordinate.' ... Paraphrasing from my journal of the experience--which, miraculously, I had been able to stenograph in real-time with decent cogency--I had posited that everything was just a "lattice of space," with the "I" that was my tangible experience simply a "reference," as in computer programming, and that everything seemingly-external to me was also just a "reference." With scant transitional material, I then leaped to the idea that any limitation which I possessed must be the "function" or at least ability of some real other, or else it must be possible for me to transcend this limitation myself so that in some way that "function" can be realized, and that this must be true for all I could imagine. I was stunned at the apparent rigor of the logic, even though in hindsight I had questioned whether the whole "theorem" followed proper deductive logic at all. I wrote, further, that this was in fact a theological principle, noting the classic criticism of God's omnipotence, 'Can God create a weight too heavy for Him to lift?' I paused to write, which I now quote precisely, Quote:Is this really a worthwhile exercise? Trying to separate the ego from the rest of the world?I remember even now, quite vividly, like it happened yesterday, that I was then struck by a surge of energy - notably, entering through the top of my head, and which spurred me on even as the letters that I typed seemed to flicker between English and some obscure, inscrutable alphabet. So, I kept typing, producing this, again, exactly as you see it: Quote:Do we model God as all-knowing, all-powerful, and above all -- benevolent and all-loving -- because that is At this time, I was yet without any exposure to Confederation material--though I suppose I was not completely without exposure to the Law of One, per se, through my gradual examination of world religion and because I had played hours upon hours of the videogame The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, and the lore of the game, which I found enthralling, seemed to draw heavily upon those elements of world religion which I now identify in some way with the Law of One. Anyways, the core concept which I received during the trip, the concept not of divine intervention, but of divine re-invention, remained convincing once I had sobered up. I won't recount the whole subplot here, but I had been in anguish over losing contact with some friends--in fact, that had been a large motivation to begin to try the psychedelics--and so, with my newfound concept of divine re-invention, I soothed my anguish by assuring myself that the friendships had fallen apart because they had no grounding in that concept. I resolved to be on the lookout for companions which might share a belief in this concept. This did lead to new friendships, which indeed felt more fulfilling, but then lead to new misunderstandings, and then newer friends, and more misunderstandings -- and now, I am here. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 02-01-2022 (02-01-2022, 01:08 AM)Quincunx Wrote: I forgive you Quotes are how I write in almost all cases. Nothing new under the sun, as they say. I suppose, I've never really been interested in speaking about myself only. I usually go blank when someone asks how my weekend was! In fact, I remember another time when I was on LSD (yes, ironically, it became a habit for me), hanging out with my old high school buddies, and somehow we got on the topic of self-appreciation. We went around round-robin, and when it got to me I couldn't eke out anything much coherent--but not because of the drug. This was when I was still very interested in Buddhism, so I stammered out something about there being "no me," just the "impermanent collection of craving and clinging that becomes me moment by moment." In retrospect, I was in a rough spot, emotionally. Actually, you have a good point. I have often had trouble not only speaking autobiographically but with most forms of self-assertion. I suppose, it has either come out in unhealthy ways, or in diluted ways. Ironic, because, in person, many have said I am a powerful speaker. So, why the lack of belief in self? Intellectually, I want better, and I want to be better ("'I must, and I can'"!), but perhaps it hasn't sunk to the roots yet. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Patrick - 02-01-2022 I suspect the same thing for myself. In fact I suspect that many foolhardy 6d wanderers are unknowingly those that switched polarity in mid 6d and are incarnating in the maelstrom now in order to help without fearing entanglement with Karma because we've been there and are now old friends with our Karma. RE: Divine Re-Invention - flofrog - 02-01-2022 Vestige, I really liked the coughing on the typing keys and the restore being made stopping the coughing, that s fun !! I have a feeling that this sort of blissful element of the team spirit in athletics you mentioned when in high school has a lot to see with prior knowledge/memory of social memory complex. I like what Patrick says above. I feel that about him. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 02-01-2022 (02-01-2022, 11:36 AM)Patrick Wrote: I suspect the same thing for myself. In fact I suspect that many foolhardy 6d wanderers are unknowingly those that switched polarity in mid 6d and are incarnating in the maelstrom now in order to help without fearing entanglement with Karma because we've been there and are now old friends with our Karma. Perhaps it is a 'tradition' for the negative polarity entity to sojourn in third density, ('re'-)capitulating the lessons of unitive love to honor and celebrate their discovery of new friends. I say 'tradition' and not 'necessity,' but I do wonder if the "instantaneous energy reorientation" of the sixth-density negative is instantaneous the way we(I) assume. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Patrick - 02-02-2022 I think we come by choice. But it is also helpful for working on some particular imbalances. My comment on karma is just that we don't fear getting involved in it, which is a requirement for coming here. We have absolutely no protection other than our bias. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Spaced - 02-02-2022 Thank you for sharing your story. I resonate with a lot with what you wrote, I can see some similarities with my own spiritual trajectory. I feel that everyone has darkness in their past of varying kinds. I suspect I've had lifetimes where I left nothing but destruction, suffering and death in my wake but that is not who I am now. I like that Patrick mentioned being old friends with your Karma because I think the key is acceptance. What you wrote about neurons transmitting accurately ties into this I think, if we follow the way without expectations we help balance our Karma. If we take detours our metaphorical neuron may misfire, we may get lost in delusion or attachment and stray further into the woods. Just some thoughts RE: Divine Re-Invention - tadeus - 02-03-2022 (01-31-2022, 11:46 PM)Vestige Wrote: I have a suspicion that I may have been a negative-polarity wanderer or, phrased more appropriately, a negative-polarity entity who wandered so as to embrace the positive polarity. Why do you think that you are "a negative-polarity wanderer" ? I am writing here often about negative things, specially about the symbols of satanism. But i only want to point out that we are sorrounded of them and not to identify with them. So am I a proponent of satanism? RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 02-03-2022 (02-02-2022, 11:28 AM)Spaced Wrote: Thank you for sharing your story. I resonate with a lot with what you wrote, I can see some similarities with my own spiritual trajectory. (02-02-2022, 11:28 AM)tadeus Wrote: Why do you think that you are "a negative-polarity wanderer" ? I have been doing more reading--I am almost always reading, and reconsidering: Quote: So, perhaps I have leaned too far in the realm of assumptions, in declaring that I arrived recently from the negative polarity. Do I then assume that I am greatly positively-oriented? No, I don't believe I should do that, either. Does that mean I am in the sinkhole of indifference? I hesitate to assume that, also. Why am I always reading? Why do I almost always have some citation in my writing? And why, as will become evident, do I seem to move from opinion to opinion, especially as regards my own self-identity? I have found the tool of the enneagram helpful in arriving at a characterization. I might have the appearance of caprice, of being impulsive or indeliberate, but I am optimistic that there is stability within the movement, as if I were a tree branch in the wind. I do also believe it would be healthier if my oscillations resembled more the outward-inward pulse of a heartbeat or breath, rather than the lateralized motion. That is, I recognize that I do have some misfiring neurons, let's say, some delusions, some damage, so it may be more accurate to say that as I heal, I will become entrained to a proper rhythm. Quote:To continue the tuning process [p. 24] by examining the character of your own I do believe I am approaching this rhythm. That is, I do, definitely, desire the positive path. In fact, last night, I realized that I am so drawn to words such as these -- "approach" and "path" and "pulse" and "movement" and "oscillation" -- because that has been the mould of my life, and it is the grounding principle in my pursuit of the positive path. I wrote elsewhere that I appreciate how frolicsome, perhaps, the pattern of my life can be. Frolicsome isn't quite the right word, I feel. I have the image of a scavenger hunt, like an Easter egg hunt. And, last night, I had discovered the word μακαρισμός, makarismos, "to pronounce one blessed." As well, at one point in my life I had adopted the nickname Asher, which also connotes "blessedness." One scholar writes that the significance is closer to "honor" as in a juxtaposition with "shame." The two are not opposites. One leads to the other, and back again. The scholar roots this concept in the context of the Sermon on the Mount, where weal is promised from woe, for example, blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. Mourning will be met with comforting, will bring comfort, and in a sense is the comfort or consolation that is promised. Ra utilizes similar reciprocal constructs, such as the balance between honor and responsibility: "Each responsibility is an honor; each honor, a responsibility." L/leema adopts this structure in their presented name, saying, "We L-slash leave you in the L-slash love and L-slash light of the infinite Creator. We are one. Do you know what that slash means, my friends: we are one." The pattern of my own experience has been gilded with surprises, some sorrowful and some jovial. Since they usually lead one to the other and around again, the makarismos, the pronouncement of blessedness, I had felt was first necessary, and now it is just customary. RE: Divine Re-Invention - tadeus - 02-04-2022 (02-03-2022, 11:21 PM)Vestige Wrote: So, perhaps I have leaned too far in the realm of assumptions, in declaring that I arrived recently from the negative polarity. Do I then assume that I am greatly positively-oriented? No, I don't believe I should do that, either. I would say that a negatively oriented entity will not think about the fact of what it is. It will not care about being negative-oriented. (02-03-2022, 11:21 PM)Vestige Wrote: Does that mean I am in the sinkhole of indifference? The same answer. You are thinking about this question - you don't want to be indifferent. (02-03-2022, 11:21 PM)Vestige Wrote: Why am I always reading? Because you are searching for an answer. You are using your intellect to analyze the situation of your life in comparison to your environment. I am doing the same and want to comprehend how the negative-oriented world is working / made of. There have been so many interesting mechanisms been installed, including the subtle (mis)use of the human psychology. Most of the people here are going the primary way by following the feeling of the heart, ignoring the intellect. That's of course a good way, that will lead to the fourth density. But some people have the (own) task to do this with the intellect equally. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 02-06-2022 (02-04-2022, 01:11 AM)Quincunx Wrote: I have a question for you Vestige. You don't have to answer it on here due to privacy concerns. I think this could be something that you can ponder about. How should we define or determine this qualifier, "was done to you," in the experience of the negative? RE: Divine Re-Invention - flofrog - 02-06-2022 (02-06-2022, 02:44 PM)Quincunx Wrote: I honestly don't believe you are a negative wanderer. I think you are just as confused as anyone else who thinks they are. I think this is often the case too. Also one has to realize how much work t is for an entity who was raised in a violent environment, how much work is needed to rise above that childhood experience and finally choose to be of service to others. And at the same time, how empowering in the end with the peace and equanimity it brings. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 02-06-2022 I want you all to hear, before I launch into any further analysis, that I am taking to heart all of your comments as if we are long-time friends. That is, I am immensely grateful that you have continued to both console and guide me, for certainly it is not your responsibility, yet you have volunteered, all of you, these kindnesses. Thank you, all of you. The direction of our discussion here feels to me to be increasingly wondrous and intriguing, firstly because of the clear outpouring of love that I, somewhat unworthily, have been the beneficiary of here, and secondly because the direction of conversation is, even antecedent to my own input, walking somewhat parallel to how I am experiencing and processing catalyst in my offline life. Quincunx, you have suggested that I examine my childhood, and both you and flofrog, and, really, everyone who has commented, has been encouraging me to consider that I may be, at worst, let's say, simply confused. I can say confidently that today I am quite confused--but I am certainly still seeking. I may have alluded to the fact that I am staying with my family--mother, father, sibling--for a while. Although the catalyst to making this move was not altogether pleasant, I have found the silver lining in that I am hoping that this renewed time with my family will bring opportunities to address and reconcile much of what could be called strife, both recent and long-past, and the processing of which had been buried or delayed. (To respect them, I will, of course, try to keep identifying details completely vague while still attempting to unearth my own perceptions, my own experiences, and what I see as possible paths to reconciliation. Once again, it is certainly not the responsibility of any here but myself to attend to this information, but I welcome our continued conversation. I've been finding that, sometimes unconsciously, I do use my writings here as a method of processing, since journaling the private journal has already been a key activity for me. So, feel free to advise me also to, let's say, "put a sock in it," if it seems that my sharing here might run the risk of infringement on others. Thank you for this as well.) To answer you, Quincunx, and flofrog, in short: yes, I believe I have faced violence during my childhood, and, really, throughout my whole growth. I am only, nearly, one-quarter of a century in age in this current vehicle. So, I feel, simultaneously, that I have lived much and probably not enough. Quincunx, I am so sorry that you have faced violence, even, I assume, physical harm, at the hand of your father. I have sometimes feared physical blows but, in truth, I have suffered very little physical harm of this sort. I have experienced severe illness, and the frustrations of others at my ill health. I have experienced raised voices, and witnessed anger taken out on nonliving things. I have experienced alienation, and seeming neglect, and seeming betrayal, in various forms, usually through emotional catalyst. In my opinion, I am still experiencing much of this. flofrog, I like very much what you have said, that "much work is needed to rise above that childhood experience and finally choose to be of service to others. And at the same time, how empowering in the end with the peace and equanimity it brings." I would say that it is with my family that I am, perhaps, least peaceful, least equanimous, and least dedicated to service-to-others. This I find unfortunate, because when I review my dynamics with others outside my family, I can, certainly, see where I have also been belligerent, and unfair, and selfish--and I have seen where those dynamics have been turned to the more positive, in most cases. In those cases which I feel are more of a "demerit," I find also the energy of inharmonious shared living, and other energies which resemble what is still between myself and my birth family. Yesterday, my family told me that they are, not always but often, afraid of me. And, afraid for me. Even before the overt statement, I knew that we were falling again into certain patterns of strife. Within instances of strife where I agree with their judgment that I am to blame, the fear of being negative 'all along' is also there. And where I disagree with them, the fear of becoming negative is also there. flofrog, I agree I have much work to do to rise above--and I am really, very scared of just sinking, sinking, sinking. I have no idea how to place myself. I am also aware that to even make the attempt to place myself as Positive or Negative is, in some sense, counterproductive -- but how can I either stop a perilous momentum or encourage a fruitful momentum if I cannot adjudge the path of the wheel? I seem to see nothing in meditation, and neither does my analysis bear much new insight. And when I read, it seems I still 'have no eyes to see,' for I can find and apply to myself characteristics which are contradictory. Quote:So, let us say this: there are indeed emotions, and anger perhaps is amongst the most prominent among them, that if reinforced, if embraced, if built upon, if made the focus and the pivot of a commitment, can, in the fullness of time, lead to a polarization toward the negative that is of an harvestable quality. However, we would point out that anger, in its random expressions—anger as hostility as you suggest in demonstrations—you do not have the kind of focused service-to-self development that even remotely approaches harvestable quality. In fact, outbursts of this kind tend to characterize individuals who, in the root choice have already tended toward service to others but are having difficulty in manifesting that choice in a consistent fashion, in a fashion that reaches down to the root of their being. Quote:When an entity is extremely positive, as each within this circle is, that which may be seen by others to be unimportant or non-catalytic, upon the contrary sensitive entities which seek will certainly use this catalyst and experience painfully negative emotions. Thus, hatred is love which has been hurt badly. Anger is that which comes of hatred. Beneath the hatred is what this instrument would call the orange-ray blockage. This is especially painful when the entity who is in pain has some difficulty in experiencing self-worth and self-acceptance, self-forgiveness and self-love.So, again, which is it? If I still, at times, demonstrate a hot anger, does that preclude me from the dedicated negative and yet also signal that my dedication to the positive is flighty? If I seem pleasant to all others except my family, does that mean I am actually extremely negative? Or, do my emotions arise from the sensitivity of the highly positive as it hits an energy blockage? Am I indecisive? An 'evil' man deluding himself? A 'good' man deluding himself? I feel like any frame of self-reference I had has been broken. Could it be, as you all have considered, that I am not negative, nor positive, nor indifferent, but genuinely, thoroughly confused? I have mentioned my experiments with psychedelics. Have I overstimulated or even damaged my energy systems? Quote:There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. Quote:One who feels this activation [of the indigo center] is one experiencing instreamings at that energy center to be used either for the unblocking of this center, for its tuning to match the harmonics of its other energy centers, or to activate the gateway to intelligent infinity. Quote:I am Ra. This entity became, may we use the vibration sound complex, overstimulated with the true nature of things. This over-stimulation resulted in behavior that was beyond the conscious control of the entity. The entity thus, in many attempts to go through the process of balancing, as we have described the various energy centers beginning with the red ray and moving upwards, became somewhat overly impressed or caught up in this process and became alienated from other-selves. This entity was positive. However, its journey was difficult due to the inability to use, synthesize, and harmonize the understandings of the desires of self so that it might have shared, in full compassion, with other-selves. This entity thus became very unhealthy, as you may call it, in a spiritual complex manner, and it is necessary for those with this type of distortion towards inner pain to be nurtured in the inner planes until such an entity is capable of viewing the experiences again with the lack of distortion towards pain. Quote:I am Ra. In speaking of the one you call Adolf we have some difficulty due to the intense amount of confusion present in this entity’s life patterns as well as the great confusion which greets any discussion of this entity. I thought that I did firmly know myself. The catalyst I seem to be dredging up with my family seems to argue otherwise. Again, I ask: How can I walk any path if I cannot seemingly see my feet? How can I repair myself if the eye and the hand are both broken? RE: Divine Re-Invention - Patrick - 02-06-2022 What makes me believe I once walked the negative path is that I know of the pleasures that many negative acts bring. None of it comes from my current incarnation. It makes me a bit queasy to imagine doing any of that while being the person that I am right now. But it makes it easy for me to forgive negative acts such as rape for example. Because I remember dimly how it feels to be the perpetrator. Of course I also remember what it feels to be the victim. One thing is for sure, there is no net gain for the Creator. The bad feelings of the victim far outweigh the pleasures of the perpetrator. RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 02-06-2022 (02-06-2022, 05:24 PM)Vestige Wrote: To answer you, Quincunx, and flofrog, in short: yes, I believe I have faced violence during my childhood, and, really, throughout my whole growth. OK, all that was probably an overreaction. In fact, a few hours after all that, I had a heart-to-heart(!) discussion with my family, and I feel much more in-balance and in-tune. In fact, we uncovered several intriguing energy patterns--and, although it was not my whole self that was disintegrating, I did indeed have some complicated blockages and confusions which could be likened to a microcosm of a more total energy disruption. I now feel much more prepared to work with these energies going forward. I apologize for the disturbance. ... "There are many ways to communicate with one’s distortions while within the distortion as an entity. They all partake in various ways of the use of those ways of communicating which go beyond words and intellectual considerations so that the spirit within the self may speak healing to the manifested self. If one attempts to bring into the heart chakra each felt distortion, one is violating the self, attempting to drag energy where it is not rising naturally. However, if one can see the heart as always open and allow the heart to be moved into communication with the lower chakra in the lower, then the combined vibrations, instead of the green muddied by forced portions of red, orange and yellow, remain crystalline—the green color shimmering upon the type of communication mentally or physically voiced. This, then, looks like a living stream of the most lovely light green, which shimmers and surrounds and gradually alleviates the blockage of red, orange or yellow so that the two colors gradually become equal in their radiance and power.” RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 02-06-2022 ... And, still, I find the conversation mirrors the external. As I turn to a more stable appreciation and study of and working with energy centers, so too can it be found here. Maybe this is coincidence; I choose to see it as a great gift of synchronicity that is bringing us together just as I have been brought closer together with my family. Quote:Patrick Patrick, first, I would like to affirm that you are, if there was any doubt, completely worthy of acceptance. And I am greatly honored that you and many here have been sharing your own experiences with and of negativity - it reminds me that we all have that '360-degree self,' it reminds me that I too can be forgiven (and, also, forgive), and that we can all (and will!) move forward, together. Patrick, this is also, I believe, a very insightful statement you have made in in part because of its connection with this passage: Quote:31.14 ▶ Questioner: I was thinking more of the possibility of the Orion group having influenced, say, certain members of the Third Reich who I have read reports of having sexual gratification from the observation of the, in some cases, the gassing and killing of entities in the gas chambers.As Ra has said elsewhere, what these entities seek at their core is the green ray. The desire persists because the perpetrator, as we might say, is trying to achieve a complete satisfaction. Yet, can the satisfaction be complete if there is no dignity given to the other-self, which is the microcosm of the every-self? So, where desire would have been quenched if it were desire to also satisfy the other, which extends to the all, instead the desire becomes all, and yet ends with the other, so that it is the desire that becomes eternal for the perpetrator or possessor of that desire. RE: Divine Re-Invention - aWanderer91 - 02-07-2022 I have kept a close eye on this post, as I've quietly had spouts over the years where I've questioned if I was a negative wanderer who came to switch polarity. However, this is the conclusion I have come to... Yes we are recieving 4th density positive vibrations on the planet, but we mustn't forget that we do primarily dwell in a negative environment in terms of planetary consciousness. This means there's lots in the air and these negative energies can be quite strong and invisible. This leads me to my point that it would be quite easy for any positively orientated being to take on this energy and believe that they are somehow negative or were negative at one time. Lots of us (especially wanderers) are empathic and psychic. It's quite easy to take on the planetary consciousness and the thoughts and feelings of those around us, and believe they are our own. Once we have done this, we would filter this through our own lenses of perception and then warp or mold that into a way that gives us something applicable or analytical to feed on. (This is just one conclusion I have come to). I'm not saying that what you have said is wrong vestige, and the others here, but it's not quite that black and white in my opinion. Plus I don't think a 6D negative being would use such a clouded and mystery shrouded environment such as 3rd density to make this choice to switch, it would be a gigantic risk to take with very little chance of remembrance. Unless you are of course correct in your judgment RE: Divine Re-Invention - Vestige - 03-25-2022 I feel drawn to write here again, as I had already saved an offline copy of this thread for further reflection, and so I figure I may as well "think out loud." As may be evident, I... vacillate. I am able to appraise myself--that is, I am able to construct claims about myself... but then those feelings of comprehension turn to apprehension. I question myself so much that it sometimes feels like an interrogation. If anyone here is familiar with the Ennagram--I am a Type Six with a Five Wing, which some call "the Guardian." I am deeply suspicious of myself... Am I this, or am I that? Am I really? For the right reasons?... I am obsessed with myself, yet in this critical fashion... I read this passage today: The way to pursue being a witness to the light is to live today. The hopes for tomorrow, the regrets or memories of yesterday, aid in many things but do not aid in bearing witness to the love and the light within. By the time the impulse has reached the manifested expression it no longer bears witness to truth but to the judgment of the individual who is editing the self. Therefore, go ahead and edit the self, for such is the way of service to others. But allow the self to heal from these expressions by spending time and attention just letting go of and releasing the pains and joys alike to the infinite One. These are the harvests that the Creator desires. These are the expressions of love that the Creator appreciates. Just as you are, you are loved, and this is the thing of the moment, for each moment, each instant is as that point from which a universe of possibility depends. Each moment is a moment of choice. Each moment is an opportunity for witness. Each moment is infinite. [https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1996/0324] The regrets or memories of yesterday, aid in many things but do not aid in bearing witness to the love and the light within... let[] go and releas[e] the pains and joys alike to the infinite One. ... Regrets or memories. I sense that the term "memories" here is intended to serve as a catch-all for any form of emotionally-charged remembrance--at least, I hope so. I have a superb memory... often, the memory will flash into my mind with no effort, like a lightning bolt, and when a memory is elusive it might take me only a few moments to 'delve' for it. ( ... As an aside, I wonder: Does that evince an abused deep mind? Have I been treating my mind like a prostitute, as Ra warns against, or is this a benign feature in me? ... ) Certainly, I am not shy about offering up my joys and pains to our Creator. Even when my path led me through Gnosticism--a particular form of Gnosticism which painted the creator of this universe as a cold or cruel false god, "Yaldabaoth"--I retained a good sense of humor about it, and, actually, I found some solace then in considering some of my suffering to simply be as 'pranks.' I had to abandon the notion of a cruel creator soon after I took it up, as I could not reconcile that idea with my lived experience--with the regular encounters I had with the majesty of Nature, or the many mercies I have been given alongside the sorrows. So, I talk to the Creator (sometimes just while driving around, as if the Creator was right next to me in the passenger seat or perched on my windshield)--maybe too casually, as I find I have no talent for saying prayers--but I consider the Creator my best friend. Maybe this is, at least at this point in my journey, an unskillful convention. I feel that the memories that flash into my consciousness spontaneously must be paid attention, and so I not only conversate but I also reminisce and ruminate--and from thence come the guilt, the self-interrogation, and the self-doubt. My fatal error may be that I confuse my memories with my regrets. Can I really just let the memory float in and out? I suppose that is the goal--a proximity to meditation which endures as much as possible through the daily activity. All of this is too much beating around the bush. I'm writing today because I fear I may be deluding myself with all of this. I have asked this before, but, have I even made the Choice? Is it possible to make the Choice, sustain an awareness of it, and yet never make meaningful progress? From what I have read, it is impossible to return to sleep once 'awake.' So, am I just tossing and turning, eyes propped open, with my arms and legs ensnared in the sheets? Or... could it be that for some interval within this lifetime I had polarized (strongly) negative, say, 90%? Dedicated to myself but deluded as to the depth of it, and so I was able to re-orient myself to the positive--at least, outside the gravity well of true indifference, but not quite a complete convert? Is it possible to re-orient polarity in the third density? |