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Time-Consciousness Conversion - Loki - 01-28-2022
We are so immersed in time we cannot understand the illusion without it. But time and time again (ironically) the Confederation tells us "time" does not really exist. There is only an everlasting present continuum.
All we do is remember memories of past present moments. What if time is just a way to quantify the manifestation of the memory/remembering of consciousness?
What if Space/Time is in reality Space/Consciousness and Time/Space is Consciousness/Space?
Confederation always points out to the inside of our being from where we can begin the ascension towards Higher Self and the Creator. Inside our beings is the place where the illusion is attached to the consciousness dimension and each being is ground 0 for its own Space/Consciousness reality.
If we think it though Space/Consciousness is the place where our consciousness is contained by the space (the veil). Consciousness/Space is the place where space is embedded in our higher consciousness and we could see the memory recordings of all our past incarnations and we see all potential future incarnations.
This consciousness dimension appears when Creator switches from singularity to multiplicity starting a new octave. Consciousness is a component of the Creation while time is invented to help consciousness quantify Creation.
There is the concept of spiritual gravitation which is the force that pulls creation towards Creator. This spiritual gravitation is the force that operates on Consciousness dimension.
This approach would eliminate any time related paradox because all consciousness from Self to Higher self to Creator are always located on the same consciousness axis and in the same present continuum. No more need for Higher Self to come from the future but rather to come from above, and permanently being in the same present movement with the Self and the Creator.
RE: Time-Consciousness Conversion - Quincunx - 01-28-2022
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RE: Time-Consciousness Conversion - tadeus - 01-29-2022
(01-28-2022, 12:31 PM)Loki Wrote: All we do is remember memories of past present moments. What if time is just a way to quantify the manifestation of the memory/remembering of consciousness?
What if Space/Time is in reality Space/Consciousness and Time/Space is Consciousness/Space?
The gaining of experience is in any case a continuous process, which at least contains a (causal) sequence, which suggests something like the existence of time.
Maybe the better question is if time is a linear construct?
There was already so much discussed in the thread The mysterious nature of time
RE: Time-Consciousness Conversion - MonadicSpectrum - 01-29-2022
I think those are some great ideas, Loki. Thanks for sharing.
I like to view space/time as space changing over time and time/space as time changing over space. For example, space/time is like a video game where the time is cycling at a constant rate outside of control (plot/memories, quests/desires, etc.) but the player is free to change how space is situated across time (moving the character, moving objects, etc.) while time/space is like a video game designer editing the game while people are playing it where the space is cycling at a constant rate outside of control (character and object movement) but the designer is free to change how time is situated across space (changing the plot/memories, adding new quests/desires, etc.).
So in this model, time is indeed more of a consciousness phenomena as you state, but perhaps metaphysical is more accurate as the physical space also occurs in consciousness. So we could say space/time is physical/metaphysical and time/space is metaphysical/physical. The physical is that which fills out space as it is observed through the physical senses while the metaphysical fills out time as it is observed in memories and imagination.
When incarnated, we are more like the video game player who is given plot/memories and desires/quests and uses them to make decisions to change the physical world. In between incarnations, we are more like the video game designer who is given certain physical states and uses them to make decisions to change the plot/memories and desires/quests. One could view the adept as being one who has learned to be both the player and the designer simultaneously.
"I am the story that will read you real... every memory that you hold dear."
RE: Time-Consciousness Conversion - flofrog - 01-29-2022
(01-28-2022, 12:31 PM)Loki Wrote: This approach would eliminate any time related paradox because all consciousness from Self to Higher self to Creator are always located on the same consciousness axis and in the same present continuum. No more need for Higher Self to come from the future but rather to come from above, and permanently being in the same present movement with the Self and the Creator.
Sooooo interesting Loki, thank you !!
RE: Time-Consciousness Conversion - Loki - 01-30-2022
(01-29-2022, 06:57 AM)tadeus Wrote: I like to view space/time as space changing over time and time/space as time changing over space.[url=https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2614][/url]
I agree entirely with your post and this is my POV if I were considering time as a building part of the Creation. However even in your statement above time sounds more as a defined entity to quantify change than a physical entity. Consciousness has the quality of remembering and this remembering needs a tool to quantify it. Any part that exists in creation has a field of energy associated to it which can be felt as some sort of force. Space and mass is associated with gravitation. Light is associated with speed (calculated) and brightness. As we know from Confederation, consciousness is associated with spiritual gravitation as well which we do not feel yet other than faith. However time does not seem to have any sort of force or energy associated to it. There is not gravitation of time, intensity of time, brightness of time. If you think about it time is for change or memory what is distance for space, a way to quantify it.
Regarding your second paragraph I also agree space occurs in consciousness but it occurs through the known process Infinite Intelligence (potential energy) - Logos (Kinetic energy) -Light (Matter) which is doubled by the parallel process Creator - Higher Self - Self.
As we know matter needs space to manifest and it can be inside of time or outside of time. There is no mention of time in the big process of Creation (as a step or a stage) as there is no mention of distance or brightness.