Quote:At this time there are approximately 350 million of these entities [wanderers] who have incarnated within your Earth planes in order to offer their service to those of this planet who would request such.

(11-21-2021, 05:01 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: Can someone further explain the existence of incarnated entities within the planetary influence of Earth, or within Earth's planes? What does this mean, beyond those of us living on the surface of Earth in corporeal bodies? 

I often get hung up when trying to conceptualize such existence. I have the impression that some entities incarnate in, on or within Earth and exist in a manner different than us 3D corporeal humans. 

Do they reside within or above the Earth, or on the surface with us, but perhaps undetectable by most of us? Or, all of the above?  

For instance, Quo states: 

Quote:At this time there are approximately 350 million of these entities [wanderers] who have incarnated within your Earth planes in order to offer their service to those of this planet who would request such.

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2018/0303

Quote:. 6.13
Questioner :  Is all of the Earth’s population then, human population of the earth, all all of them originally orinally from Maldek .

Ra :  I am Ra. This is anew line of questioning, and deserves a place of it’s own. The ones who were harvested to your sphere from the sphere known before its dissolution as other names, but to your people as Maldek, incarnated, many within your Earth’s surface rather 5han upon it.

(11-21-2021, 05:27 PM)flofrog Wrote:

(11-21-2021, 05:01 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: Can someone further explain the existence of incarnated entities within the planetary influence of Earth, or within Earth's planes? What does this mean, beyond those of us living on the surface of Earth in corporeal bodies? 

I often get hung up when trying to conceptualize such existence. I have the impression that some entities incarnate in, on or within Earth and exist in a manner different than us 3D corporeal humans. 

Do they reside within or above the Earth, or on the surface with us, but perhaps undetectable by most of us? Or, all of the above?  

For instance, Quo states: 

Quote:At this time there are approximately 350 million of these entities [wanderers] who have incarnated within your Earth planes in order to offer their service to those of this planet who would request such.

https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2018/0303

IndigoSalvia,  there is in Ra, reference to harvested entities from Maldek before it’s dissolution,

Quote:. 6.13
Questioner :  Is all of the Earth’s population then, human population of the earth, all all of them originally orinally from Maldek .

Ra :  I am Ra. This is anew line of questioning, and deserves a place of it’s own. The ones who were harvested to your sphere from the sphere known before its dissolution as other names, but to your people as Maldek, incarnated, many within your Earth’s surface rather 5han upon it.

Mount Shasta in California has been much the subject of talk on the internet as a spiritual place whose inner planes might be sheltering such entities.

Quote:This is not an unusual situation, my friends, for it is the way of all group minds, as you would call them, or social memory complexes, to offer various kinds of service to planets such as this Earth, both upon the planet, within the inner planes, and exterior to the planet, as a kind of support system, as it could be described. 

(11-22-2021, 05:05 AM)flow Wrote: there is no incarnation upon inner planes. inner planes is time/space. it is between incarbations. entities who dwell there chose not to reincarnate, so they don't move through the densities. therefore, their evolution is somewhat on halt, since they don't go through the lessons of densities. for example, a social memory complex named Quanta, who has completed their own 3 density graduation on another planet, are now dwelling on inner planes, awaiting for the "slots"/body vessels to be available to begin their 4 density lessons togethere with earthlings. there are many past masters/adepts who have attained contact with intelligent infinity dyring their incarnated lives, and upon death they have decided not to reincarnate but to remain on inner planes and offer their help as teacher, guides and protectors for their fellow incarnated human beings, one such example is Aaron. many native americans are also dwell within inner planes, they helped 9-11 victims to heal their traumatic transition. all that info come from Q'uo, Latwii and other transcripts. hope that helps a little.

(11-22-2021, 08:35 AM)Dtris Wrote: ...If there is a space/time physical plane, there must be a time/space physical plane. If there is a time/space astral plane, there must be a space/time astral plane. For each inner plane there would need to be space/time equivalent...

(11-22-2021, 11:28 PM)flow Wrote:

(11-22-2021, 08:35 AM)Dtris Wrote: ...If there is a space/time physical plane, there must be a time/space physical plane. If there is a time/space astral plane, there must be a space/time astral plane. For each inner plane there would need to be space/time equivalent...

what i said is merely rephrasing in my own words of what i've read in transcripts. i don't post my own fancies here and only say things which i've read from Ra, Latwii, Hatonn, Q'uo, Oxal, etc. i am not mixing in other "new age" ideas either. if you will find the info which support your supposition - please, post it here. i myself have never read that time/space is physical. time/space is beyond grand illusions of densities.

(11-23-2021, 09:05 AM)Dtris Wrote: Ra also stated that there is a time/space for each density. As if Carla had been tricked by their negative friend she would have gone to 4th density negative time/space. So time/space is still within the density system.

If there is a 4th density space/time and 4th density time/space, and so on for each density.

Quote:...We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. The term “inner planes” is misleading in that the inner planes are planes in time/space or the metaphysical world as opposed to space/time such as your planet is with solid rock and water and so forth. Therefore, the inner planes do not have a physical location except tangentially because they belong to the planet Earth. This instrument calls them inner planes because she has read other writings that also call them inner planes and also because they are inside you.

[Side one of tape ends.]

(Carla channeling)

They are not inside creation. You are the center of a consciousness that is local and is also non-local. The locality of the consciousness is that connection with the physical body that happened at some point between conception and a few weeks after birth.

May we answer you further, my brother? We are those of Q’uo.

-You have answered the second part of my question and that was very illuminating. The other part is this. When I think of inner and outer planes I think of them being somehow related to the seven Earths that were spoken of during this channeling and I try to create a visual image for myself to see what it looks like. I think you are saying that these planes exist in time/space so that there is no physical equivalent in space/time, and that inner and outer are simply words that were chosen to point particular aspects or qualities of these planes rather than their location. Is that correct?

-We are those of Q’uo, and we thank the one known as R for this question. My brother, you are correct in realizing that these heaven worlds do not have a physical location. They do have an arrangement in orders of magnitude, perhaps we would say, so they nest together without disturbing each other. There is in each focus of the Creator, which is you and each other human being upon your planet, a gateway into those inner planes. And again it is one of those situations where, unless you are very, very experienced and sophisticated, if you are able to penetrate the gateway and move into the inner planes, you will pretty automatically be taken to the location which matches your needs or your desires the most.

The solution of each of the seven inner planes being connected to a corresponding locality is not correct, as far as we are aware of the situation. All of the inner planes are connected back into the one physical locality of the influence of planet Earth...

(11-23-2021, 09:25 AM)flow Wrote:

Quote:...We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. The term “inner planes” is misleading in that the inner planes are planes in time/space or the metaphysical world as opposed to space/time such as your planet is with solid rock and water and so forth. Therefore, the inner planes do not have a physical location except tangentially because they belong to the planet Earth. This instrument calls them inner planes because she has read other writings that also call them inner planes and also because they are inside you.

[Side one of tape ends.]

(Carla channeling)

They are not inside creation. You are the center of a consciousness that is local and is also non-local. The locality of the consciousness is that connection with the physical body that happened at some point between conception and a few weeks after birth.

May we answer you further, my brother? We are those of Q’uo.

-You have answered the second part of my question and that was very illuminating. The other part is this. When I think of inner and outer planes I think of them being somehow related to the seven Earths that were spoken of during this channeling and I try to create a visual image for myself to see what it looks like. I think you are saying that these planes exist in time/space so that there is no physical equivalent in space/time, and that inner and outer are simply words that were chosen to point particular aspects or qualities of these planes rather than their location. Is that correct?

-We are those of Q’uo, and we thank the one known as R for this question. My brother, you are correct in realizing that these heaven worlds do not have a physical location. They do have an arrangement in orders of magnitude, perhaps we would say, so they nest together without disturbing each other. There is in each focus of the Creator, which is you and each other human being upon your planet, a gateway into those inner planes. And again it is one of those situations where, unless you are very, very experienced and sophisticated, if you are able to penetrate the gateway and move into the inner planes, you will pretty automatically be taken to the location which matches your needs or your desires the most.

The solution of each of the seven inner planes being connected to a corresponding locality is not correct, as far as we are aware of the situation. All of the inner planes are connected back into the one physical locality of the influence of planet Earth...

(11-23-2021, 09:25 AM)flow Wrote: ok,i see. it's not that there is time/space for each density. it's that time/space contains "level of vibrations" of each density, it is not separate oranges, it is seven slices within one orange. inner planes are indeed difficult to understand.