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What's the Purpose of Art? - Ebe - 06-21-2021
I'd like to ask people here what the use of art, of any form of art, is in their opinion.
We could also include what art is. How can we tell true art from non-art? Of course I know that everything is perfectly fine from a non-dualistic point of view but I'd love to know more from the everyday point of view, as this is the central topic of my last books whose English version is waiting to be proofread some time - if ever - by I don't know whom.
No advertisement of my works intended, just a bit of a personal context given to explain my questions.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - Anders - 06-21-2021
I think of art as food for consciousness. Some scientists have even denied the need for consciousness or even the existence of consciousness. That's an error in my opinion. For example a toaster (as far as I know haha) can't experience the beauty of a sunset. Consciousness provides an advanced form of information feedback for reality as Nassim Haramein has explained.
A materialistic scientist can believe that a task performed by a zombie without consciousness is the same as the same task performed by a human in the waking state. On a superficial materialistic level, that can appear true, but it totally misses the subjective experience. And a zombie without consciousness might be able to experience art which will cause change of behavior but again, the subject experience is missing.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - anicolai - 06-21-2021
(06-21-2021, 06:13 AM)Ebe Wrote: I'd like to ask people here what the use of art, of any form of art, is in their opinion.
We could also include what art is. How can we tell true art from non-art? Of course I know that everything is perfectly fine from a non-dualistic point of view but I'd love to know more from the everyday point of view, as this is the central topic of my last books whose English version is waiting to be proofread some time - if ever - by I don't know whom.
No advertisement of my works intended, just a bit of a personal context given to explain my questions.
I am so totally and completely biased so I cannot offer you a middle-of-the-road answer to this, but to me art is almost like wordless language...it can convey emotions and concepts without words, and it is received uniquely by each person who experiences it.
For the creator, it is the speaking of the wordless language...the pushing out of wordless emotions and concepts. Whether it is abstract or real, a painting or drawing or personal adornment, it makes a statement that may or may not be profound.
Art adds emotional "spice" to life.
Amy
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - Patrick - 06-21-2021
Witnessing beauty is a service to the Creation. It's one of the greatest service entities such as ourselves can provide.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - pat19989 - 06-21-2021
I view art as a continuation of the creator experiencing itself. Every piece of art serving as a motion of color, sound, form, etc. that serves as a kind of journal entry so to speak of the energies moving through them at that point. The world created is then experienced by other selves as light experiencing light
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - anicolai - 06-21-2021
(06-21-2021, 08:13 AM)Patrick Wrote: Witnessing beauty is a service to the Creation. It's one of the greatest service entities such as ourselves can provide.
Fabulously put!
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - Diana - 06-21-2021
(06-21-2021, 06:13 AM)Ebe Wrote: I'd like to ask people here what the use of art, of any form of art, is in their opinion.
We could also include what art is. How can we tell true art from non-art? Of course I know that everything is perfectly fine from a non-dualistic point of view but I'd love to know more from the everyday point of view, as this is the central topic of my last books whose English version is waiting to be proofread some time - if ever - by I don't know whom.
No advertisement of my works intended, just a bit of a personal context given to explain my questions.
You can advertise your books or anything else you create on The Corkboard
I agree with anicolai that: "art is almost like wordless language...it can convey emotions and concepts without words, and it is received uniquely by each person who experiences it." In addition, doing anything creative opens up a channel to the spirit and taps into, I think, intelligent infinity, as it is (or can be) a type of meditation. In purely physical terms, it fires up the right brain and develops neuropathways that have been restricted by modern-day left-brain learning. When one is doing any sort of art, one gets in "the groove," which really is another way of saying that one gets into a meditative state where one channels information.
There are many small privately owned galleries in Phoenix, AZ. And the city has an event during certain months called First Friday. The first Friday of each month the galleries are open to the public and buses run between them. It's a great experience seeing all the art in these galleries—art that is uncensored as it is in for-profit bigger galleries. It's heartening, and fun, to see all the creativity and expression.
I do understand your distinction between art and non-art. I wouldn't call it that though. I call it art, and self-expression. The difference is the level of commitment, the purpose behind its creation, and the artist's ability to envision and convey that which others cannot. Anyone can express themselves through art of any kind, and I feel it is very important to do so. But there are those who are born with a unique gift in certain creative areas which puts them in a slightly different light—that is, sharing their unique talents and open channel with the world. Those who have this channel open, of being able to envision something others cannot, the skill to do it which usually involves a lot of dedication, and the innate understanding that their gift is something to be shared with the world, are the virtuosos. I do think one can be forced, as some children are, to play the piano (for example) from a young age and become technically proficient and even reach the level of concert soloist. But here I make a distinction as well, because technical proficiency is not alone enough. And talent isn't enough either, one must have both talent and technical proficiency to reach great heights.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. . . . You may, at this time, note that as with any entities, each Wanderer has its unique abilities, biases, and specialties so that from each portion of each density represented among the Wanderers comes an array of pre-incarnative talents which then may be expressed upon this plane which you now experience so that each Wanderer, in offering itself before incarnation, has some special service to offer in addition to the doubling effect of planetary love and light and the basic function of serving as beacon or shepherd.
Thus there are those of fifth density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth- and sixth-density Wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied.
Though wanderers here may already be functioning as a beacon of planetary love and light, those of Ra also point out the importance of individual expression.
Quote:After a certain high level of technical skill is achieved, science and art tend to coalesce in esthetics, plasticity, and form. The greatest scientists are always artists as well.—Albert Einstein
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - Ebe - 06-21-2021
Quote:You can advertise your books or anything else you create on The Corkboard
Ahahah, I don't think it would be of much use, since my books are still all in Italian and here you all sound English (native) speakers...
Quote: I call it art, and self-expression.Perfectly put down!
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - ronaldhcard - 06-21-2021
Art is an expression of one's personal creativity. I happen to be a "camera artist." For example,
When Leonardo da Vinci drew with charcoal, his art was as profound as when he painted with a brush.
Michelangelo was no less a great artist when he sculpted the Pieta than when he painted the brilliant frescoes of the Sistine Chapel.
Art comes from people, not from tools.
Artistic mediums are a conduit through which an artist turns his vision of the world into reality.
A camera is no different.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - flofrog - 06-21-2021
Wonderful answers here, thank you All.
Love the ‘wordless language’ and ‘comes from people, not from tools’ ( Welcome here, ronaldhcard,
)So funny, when I look at some of my old paintings I think, who painted this, lol
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - ronaldhcard - 06-21-2021
(06-21-2021, 01:01 PM)flofrog Wrote: Wonderful answers here, thank you All.
Love the ‘wordless language’ and ‘comes from people, not from tools’ ( Welcome here, ronaldhcard,
So funny, when I look at some of my old paintings I think, who painted this, lol
Thank you, Flofrog. Your other counterparts - aspects of your greater self can come through, a bleed-through, so to speak, and express themselves in your work, by your hand and their creativity melded with your own. Say, in actuality, there's no place to wander too...you're already there. -- Ronald H. Card, a non-religious spiritual philosophy teacher on Facebook.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - Ebe - 06-21-2021
Quote:[...] Say, in actuality, there's no place to wander too...you're already there. -- Ronald H. Card, a non-religious spiritual philosophy teacher on Facebook.Let me disagree on this point. We may be already "there" but what we convey depends on how clear our perception of that is. As the great mezzo Dame Janet Baker used (more or less) to say, "we (artists) have to keep our mirror impeccably clean". In my opinion this is the difference between art and self-expression. But, of course, I may be wrong.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - ronaldhcard - 06-21-2021
(06-21-2021, 01:35 PM)Ebe Wrote:Quote:[...] Say, in actuality, there's no place to wander too...you're already there. -- Ronald H. Card, a non-religious spiritual philosophy teacher on Facebook.Let me disagree on this point. We may be already "there" but what we convey depends on how clear our perception of that is. As the great mezzo Dame Janet Baker used (more or less) to say, "we (artists) have to keep our mirror impeccably clean". In my opinion this is the difference between art and self-expression. But, of course, I may be wrong.
Ebe, Perception, perception, perception. All time, in actuality, is simultaneous. The so-called, past, the present and the future, the probable futures, all exist simultaneously, in the present moment. Perception changes with every thought. Thus, the personalities point of power as well as perception is in the present, it is always the present, therefore, clarity of perception is in the mind of the perceiver. Mirrors...want to see what god looks like...just look in the mirror, and be sure that it is impeccably clean. -- ron.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - Ebe - 06-21-2021
Quote:Ebe, Perception, perception, perception. All time, in actuality, is simultaneous. The so-called, past, the present and the future, the probable futures, all exist simultaneously, in the present moment. Perception changes with every thought.[...]Of course, I don't question that, indeed time does not exist. It's the way we use our free will, the direction the choices that make the difference. I know that all is good "in the very end" but it is also true that all is up to us, otherwise we'd be no more than puppets. So, in terms of personal karma, there is a great difference if I keep my mirror impeccably clean or if I stain it with silly choices. Making the right choices may help me and all those around me in terms of lessening our suffering. This is true for everything, art included. If I perceive something and my mirror is distorted, I send a distorted message to my audience and cause them pain or absurd, destructive thoughts and my responsibility is great because I'm in a public position and my choices do weight unto the others.
As you see, I'm not speaking of guilt.
RE: What's the Purpose of Art? - Anders - 06-22-2021
A philosophical way of looking at it is that art aims at producing refined and advanced forms of qualia.
Quote:"In philosophy and certain models of psychology, qualia (/ˈkwɑːliə/ or /ˈkweɪliə/; singular form: quale) are defined as individual instances of subjective, conscious experience. The term qualia derives from the Latin neuter plural form (qualia) of the Latin adjective quālis (Latin pronunciation: [ˈkʷaːlɪs]) meaning "of what sort" or "of what kind" in a specific instance, such as "what it is like to taste a specific apple, this particular apple now".
Examples of qualia include the perceived sensation of pain of a headache, the taste of wine, as well as the redness of an evening sky. As qualitative characters of sensation, qualia stand in contrast to "propositional attitudes",[1] where the focus is on beliefs about experience rather than what it is directly like to be experiencing." - Wikipedia