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"all are harvested regardless of their progress" - meadow-foreigner - 06-14-2021

Quote:6.15 Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles currently?

Ra: One major cycle is approximately twenty-five thousand [25,000] of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested. At the end of three major cycles, that is, approximately between seventy-five and seventy-six thousand [75–76,000] of your years, all are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.

Quote:22.3 Questioner: Thank you. I’ll ask a couple of questions to clear up the end of the second cycle— the second major cycle. And then we’ll go on to the third and last of the major cycles.
Can you tell me the life span, the average life span, at the end of the second major cycle?

Ra: I am Ra. By the end of the second major cycle the life span was as you know it, with certain variations among geographically isolated peoples more in harmony with intelligent energy and less bellicose.

So, we're in the last of the major cycles, which, according to the quote above, would mean that we will all be harvested, regardless of our progress... or will we?


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - ada - 06-14-2021

I think so. It feels to me like a completion of a kind, and reminds me of this quote:

Quote:70.15 Questioner: I think to try and clear up this point I’m going to ask a few questions that are related that will possibly enable me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?

Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration

So if we can offer ourselves for entire cycles, then it could mean that at the end of the major cycle all are harvested/unveiled/complete(mission).(?)
Though to add on to that, Earth is going through a major transformation (from 3rd to 4th density), so it too could mean the harvest of the entire planet. Perhaps something triggered in the whole solar system? Dunno.. Interesting though.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Patrick - 06-14-2021

(06-14-2021, 07:05 PM)meadow-foreigner Wrote: ...So, we're in the last of the major cycles, which, according to the quote above, would mean that we will all be harvested, regardless of our progress... or will we?

Harvested yes. Harvested to 4D, not necessarily. We can be harvested and planted into another 3D planet.

We all walks the steps of light, even those not incarnated.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Dtris - 06-14-2021

According to Ra, this planet will not be supporting third density life again until those who progress to 4th density learn to veil themselves from detection by third density.

At this Harvest everyone who is third density will be evaluated and move on to where they choose. If they are still within 3D, then a new 3D planet will be chosen, if they are 4D positive, earth will be the default location, and if 4D negative they will need to choose an appropriate planet to join.

I suppose it is possible for third density to decide to wait around in Time/Space so to speak until earth becomes a viable third density environment again.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - flofrog - 06-14-2021

Dtris, I am curious.. do you think Earth would become third density again , really, or were you thinking of a similar earth being third density but not this one here ?


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Patrick - 06-14-2021

(06-14-2021, 08:57 PM)flofrog Wrote: Dtris, I am curious.. do you think Earth would become third density again , really, or were you thinking of a similar earth being third density but not this one here ?

Quote:63.8 Questioner: From last session, I would like to continue with a few questions about the fact that in fourth density red, orange, and green energies will be activated; yellow, blue, etc., being in potentiation. Right now, you say we have green energies activated. They have been activated for the last 45 years. I am wondering about the transition through this period so that the green is totally activated and the yellow is in potentiation. What will we lose as the yellow goes from activation into potentiation, and what will we gain as the green comes into total activation, and what is that process?

Ra: I am Ra. It is misleading to speak of gains and losses when dealing with the subject of the cycle’s ending and the green-ray cycle beginning upon your sphere. It is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss. There are progressive cycles for experiential use by entities. We may now address your query.

As the green-ray cycle or the density of love and understanding begins to take shape the yellow-ray plane or Earth which you now enjoy in your dance will cease to be inhabited for some period of your space/time as the space/time necessary for fourth-density entities to learn their ability to shield their density from that of third is learned. After this period there will come a time when third density may again cycle on the yellow-ray sphere.

Meanwhile there is another sphere, congruent to a great extent with yellow ray, forming. This fourth-density sphere coexists with first, second, and third. It is of a denser nature due to the rotational core atomic aspects of its material. We have discussed this subject with you.

The fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth density upon this plane.

You may note that fourth-density entities have a great abundance of compassion.



RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Louisabell - 06-14-2021

(06-14-2021, 08:24 PM)Patrick Wrote:
(06-14-2021, 07:05 PM)meadow-foreigner Wrote: ...So, we're in the last of the major cycles, which, according to the quote above, would mean that we will all be harvested, regardless of our progress... or will we?

Harvested yes. Harvested to 4D, not necessarily. We can be harvested and planted into another 3D planet.

We all walks the steps of light, even those not incarnated.

Yes, this is how I see it as well. At the time of harvest, an assessment of one's total violet-ray vibration becomes available via walking the steps of light in time/space. As far as I interpret it, this is a different process than those who through accessing the gateway have managed to harvest themselves while incarnated (even though STO harvestable entities usually choose to hang around in order to serve).

Below is a quote explaining the process and how walking the steps of light during harvest time won't necessarily mean one is harvested to 4D.

Ra Wrote:6.14 Questioner: I think it would be appropriate to discover how the Law of One acts in this transfer of beings to our planet and the action of harvest?

Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One states simply that all things are one, that all beings are one. There are certain behaviors and thought-forms consonant with the understanding and practice of this law. Those who, finishing a cycle of experience, demonstrate various grades of distortion of that understanding of thought and action will be separated by their own choice into the vibratory distortion most comfortable to their mind/body/spirit complexes. This process is guarded or watched by those nurturing beings who, being very close to the Law of One in their distortions, nevertheless have the distortion towards active service.

Thus, the illusion is created of light, or more properly but less understandably, light/love. This is in varying degrees of intensity. The spirit complex of each harvested entity moves along the line of light until the light grows too glaring, at which time the entity stops. This entity may have barely reached third density or may be very, very close to the ending of the third-density light/love distortion vibratory complex. Nevertheless, those who fall within this octave of intensifying light/love then experience a major cycle during which the opportunities are many for the discovery of the distortions which are inherent in each entity and, therefore, the lessening of these distortions.



RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Dtris - 06-15-2021

(06-14-2021, 08:57 PM)flofrog Wrote: Dtris, I am curious.. do you think Earth would become third density again , really, or were you thinking of a similar earth being third density but not this one here ?

My view is that this Earth will have third density life again. I also think 4th Density will basically inhabit the same earth.

Patrick already quoted 63.8 which I will repeat a portion, "Meanwhile there is another sphere, congruent to a great extent with yellow ray, forming. This fourth-density sphere coexists with first, second, and third. It is of a denser nature due to the rotational core atomic aspects of its material. We have discussed this subject with you."

If my understanding of the Ra material is correct we already exist with and interact with 1st Density, being the elements and molecules which make up the inanimate substances of the physical world, the 2nd density, being what we recognize as life from bacteria to vertebrates, and 3rd density humanity.

The same rotational core atomic aspect should be different between densities 1-3 just as it is between 3-4. Which to me means there is some aspect of the atomic structure Ra is discussing basically unknown to our science. This allows the support of ever denser life but doesn't create a whole new earth per se. More like a new frequency that the radio can be tuned into.

So the earth will not regress or anything of that nature, simply when the time is right a new species or perhaps the same ones will emerge again on the Earth, whilst 4th Density beings still inhabit the planet. Theoretically this planet may eventually have 3rd thru 6th or even 7th density beings all inhabiting it simultaneously.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - flow - 06-15-2021

harvested does not mean graduated.
Ra talked that it takes time for a 4th density entities to learn how to become invisuble to 3rd density entities. so, even if Earth will become a host for 3rd density again, it will take some millions of years.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - pat19989 - 06-15-2021

do you think 2nd density beings will, similarly to 3rd density beings not ready for harvest, be incarnated onto a separate planet that supports 2d life? Or can 4d and 2d co-exist better than 4d and 3d?

Huh :idea: :-/ Smile


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Dtris - 06-15-2021

(06-15-2021, 04:04 PM)pat19989 Wrote: do you think 2nd density beings will, similarly to 3rd density beings not ready for harvest, be incarnated onto a separate planet that supports 2d life? Or can 4d and 2d co-exist better than 4d and 3d?

Huh  :idea:  :-/  Smile

I see no reason 1st and 2nd density cannot exist with the other densities. It would be rather awkward if all life as we know it dies out on earth and somehow humanity lives on in 4th density.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - ada - 06-15-2021

(06-15-2021, 04:58 PM)Dtris Wrote:
(06-15-2021, 04:04 PM)pat19989 Wrote: do you think 2nd density beings will, similarly to 3rd density beings not ready for harvest, be incarnated onto a separate planet that supports 2d life? Or can 4d and 2d co-exist better than 4d and 3d?

Huh  :idea:  :-/  Smile

I see no reason 1st and 2nd density cannot exist with the other densities. It would be rather awkward if all life as we know it dies out on earth and somehow humanity lives on in 4th density.

A good question for Q'uo, perhaps it has been asked before?


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Ohr Ein Sof - 06-20-2021

(06-15-2021, 07:17 PM)ada Wrote:
(06-15-2021, 04:58 PM)Dtris Wrote:
(06-15-2021, 04:04 PM)pat19989 Wrote: do you think 2nd density beings will, similarly to 3rd density beings not ready for harvest, be incarnated onto a separate planet that supports 2d life? Or can 4d and 2d co-exist better than 4d and 3d?

Huh  :idea:  :-/  Smile

I see no reason 1st and 2nd density cannot exist with the other densities. It would be rather awkward if all life as we know it dies out on earth and somehow humanity lives on in 4th density.

A good question for Q'uo, perhaps it has been asked before?

"As above, So below; So below, As above"
If it is here now, it will be again. Some animals, ie;dolphins and some pets are 3rd density consciousness now. The pets that have achieved 3rd density consciousness is due to our interaction with them as it states in the Material. My best guess is that this process continues on and on and is not just bound to the earth's 3rd density. After all, creation is everywhere and not just here.
Well, anyway, even if there are no animals with us in 4th density, we will still be investing in the animals that are 3rd density consciousness just as 4th density invests with us currently.
I wonder the same thing...animals are a buffer for me and many others in this world that gets pretty harsh at times. These tiny creatures always take us away from anything that we may be feeling or experiencing. If they only knew how they help human beings.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - ANGEL - 06-20-2021

(06-20-2021, 09:04 AM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:
(06-15-2021, 07:17 PM)ada Wrote:
(06-15-2021, 04:58 PM)Dtris Wrote:
(06-15-2021, 04:04 PM)pat19989 Wrote: do you think 2nd density beings will, similarly to 3rd density beings not ready for harvest, be incarnated onto a separate planet that supports 2d life? Or can 4d and 2d co-exist better than 4d and 3d?

Huh  :idea:  :-/  Smile

I see no reason 1st and 2nd density cannot exist with the other densities. It would be rather awkward if all life as we know it dies out on earth and somehow humanity lives on in 4th density.

A good question for Q'uo, perhaps it has been asked before?

"As above, So below; So below, As above"
If it is here now, it will be again. Some animals, ie;dolphins and some pets are 3rd density consciousness now. The pets that have achieved 3rd density consciousness is due to our interaction with them as it states in the Material. My best guess is that this process continues on and on and is not just bound to the earth's 3rd density. After all, creation is everywhere and not just here.
Well, anyway, even if there are no animals with us in 4th density, we will still be investing in the animals that are 3rd density consciousness just as 4th density invests with us currently.
I wonder the same thing...animals are a buffer for me and many others in this world that gets pretty harsh at times. These tiny creatures always take us away from anything that we may be feeling or experiencing. If they only knew how they help human beings.

Love/light density for me thanks.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Ohr Ein Sof - 06-29-2021

(06-14-2021, 07:38 PM)ada Wrote: I think so. It feels to me like a completion of a kind, and reminds me of this quote:


Quote:70.15 Questioner: I think to try and clear up this point I’m going to ask a few questions that are related that will possibly enable me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?

Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration

So if we can offer ourselves for entire cycles, then it could mean that at the end of the major cycle all are harvested/unveiled/complete(mission).(?)
Though to add on to that, Earth is going through a major transformation (from 3rd to 4th density), so it too could mean the harvest of the entire planet. Perhaps something triggered in the whole solar system? Dunno.. Interesting though.

[quote]Though to add on to that, Earth is going through a major transformation (from 3rd to 4th density), so it too could mean the harvest of the entire planet. /quote]
I understand it to be this way as well. No one will remain as the planet goes into potentiation and will cease to be viable for third density life.


RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - tadeus - 06-29-2021

(06-14-2021, 08:24 PM)Patrick Wrote: Harvested yes. Harvested to 4D, not necessarily. We can be harvested and planted into another 3D planet.

We all walks the steps of light, even those not incarnated.

Yes - there is a much more differentiated channeling from Saturday Meditation February 6, 2016 for this case:

Quote:You ask what is the progress of the harvest for this planet and its population at this time, for many have been the predictions of this great event throughout the history of your planet. Indeed, the one known as Jesus the Christ said that there were those among his group that would see the harvest. The harvest is that which begins first in those minds and especially in those hearts that are prepared to welcome and enjoy the vibrations of love and understanding. Thus, there are many who have been able to harvest themselves into the fourth density positive over the last few thousand of your years, and they, at this time, are preparing to welcome their brothers and sisters of the greater population of planet earth that will be harvested at the, shall we say, striking of the hour, on the infinite clock of destiny.

...

We are aware that you have information that suggests there is a great span of time in your measure that may be the potential experience of the last of the third density and the complete experience of the fourth density. This time measurement, reaching upwards to six and seven hundred of your years, is still a possibility, though there are factors of free will of the great masses of peoples upon your planet to consider.

There are, at this time, many entities and group such as this group that work to increase the harvest in a geometric fashion. You are aware of the concept of the doubling which those of Ra spoke of. When there is one who seeks, that is enough to be the cornerstone; when there are two that seek the One in a successful manner approaching harvestability, there is the doubling; and the third continues to double and so forth, until there is what you may call a “critical mass” reached for your planetary population.

...

Realize my friends that the free will of your planet is most difficult to predict for there are forces moving from ancient of days that would work against such harvest, those entities of a darker variety which seek in their own manner to be harvested by controlling the light of this harvest. And yet they shall fail, for the legions of the service-to-self entities will have only a short day where they shall reign supreme and then their day shall be over, and the light shall shine, and the harvest shall be complete. And those who seek service to others shall find a new fourth density home upon this planet, for this planet shall be a fourth-density positive planet, even with all the seeming darkness, strife, wars, control and negativity that have plagued this planet for thousands of your years.

...

What is interesting about those souls, those complexes of mind, body, and spirit, who grow upon this plane, is that they will have had experiences in relation to the negative focus of energy which is what we might call “up close and personal.” They will have had intimate experience in transmuting negative energies in some cases of a rather high order into a positive manifestation, and it is this experience which will give them a certain strength, a certain insight, a certain vibratory character which will be very gladly received by their brothers and sisters of other planets, of other densities, which will be then given the opportunity to explore dimensions of the creation that have previously not been available for close inspection, shall we say.

It is for this reason that it is a rather significant point to consider that your planet has a destiny and a continuity of development from the past which it has experienced in third density, to the present and to a future which most assuredly will be fourth density positive. Those souls who will be invited to come into your planetary experience from other sources—and will be so invited because there will be the availability of “slots,” shall we say, in your population which will not be able to be filled by the native third-density population, there being a lack of those harvested to fill these “slots”—these new souls will be given the honor and the duty to fill out a destiny which will involve a trajectory, or a momentum, and will involve cultural forms which have been in the process of being developed over a long period of your years.



RE: "all are harvested regardless of their progress" - Infinite - 06-30-2021

Ra simply meant that everyone will go through the Harvest process, regardless of whether they acquire harvestability or not.