Quote:24.17 Questioner: Could you tell me why the Orion group had to leave after, I believe, it figures to be a six-hundred-year period, why they had to vacate?

Ra: I am Ra. Although the impression that they had given to those who called them was that these entities were an elite group, that which you know as “Diaspora” occurred, causing much dispersion of these peoples so that they became an humbler and more honorable breed, less bellicose and more aware of the loving-kindness of the One Creator...

Quote:90.21 Questioner: Then what you are saying is that once the path is recognized, either the positive or the negative polarized entity can find hints along his path as to the efficiency of that path. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. That which you say is correct upon its own merits, but is not a repetition of our statement. Our suggestion was that within the experiential nexus of each entity within its second-density environment and within the roots of mind there were placed biases indicating to the watchful eye the more efficient of the two paths. Let us say, for want of a more precise adjective, that this Logos has a bias towards kindness.

Quote:99.10 Questioner: In that case I will just ask one additional short question as we terminate for this session. May I ask if the Logos of this system planned for the mating process as possibly depicted in Card Six— I don’t know if this is related— by some type of DNA imprinting as has been studied by our science. In many second-density creatures seem to have some sort of imprinting that creates a lifetime mating relationship and I was wondering if this was designed by the Logos for that particular mechanism and if it was also carried into third density?

Ra: I am Ra. There are some of your second-density fauna which have instinctually imprinted monogamous mating processes. The third-density physical vehicle which is the basic incarnational tool of manifestation upon your planet arose from entities thusly imprinted, all the aforesaid being designed by the Logos.

The free will of third-density entities is far stronger than the rather mild carryover from second-density DNA encoding and it is not part of the conscious nature of many of your mind/body/spirit complexes to be monogamous due to the exercise of free will. However, as has been noted there are many signposts in the deep mind indicating to the alert adept the more efficient use of catalyst. As we have said, the Logos of your peoples has a bias towards kindness.

Quote:By the power and truth of this practice, may all beings have happiness and the cause of happiness, which is loving-kindness. May all be free from sorrow and the causes of sorrow, which are fear, hatred and delusion. May all never be separated from the sacred happiness, which is sorrowless. And may all live in equanimity, without too much attachment and too much aversion; and live, believing in the equality of all that lives.

Quote:...You are not, for example, naturally depressed or frightened. The lightness, the openness, the loving-kindness, the generosity and patience, the energy, the courage. Those are all qualities that are natural to you. They are small seeds within you. But if you take a small seed, put it in a pot and then put it in a dark closet, it cannot grow. It needs light...

Quote:About the lower energy centers and their blockages we could speak for many, many hours, yet much has already been spoken about these blockages. We can only say that there is no body of philosophical or spiritual material upon your planet, of which we are aware, that has not within it some good insights into the voyager’s search for the peaceful inner self. Thus, it is not a matter of pointing you in this direction or that, this religious system or that, but rather, perhaps, we may say in a very general sense that those things which keep energy from pouring at full volume into the heart energy center are those things which are not of love, but are distortions of love, seen in the faces and voices of those who have experienced pain. The essence of that which robs the heart of energy is separation. Thus, if you anger yourself, you must sit down and find that self within you which may forgive, find the grace within the self which redeems and makes one new. When the difficulty is perceived as being another, let it be clear that in some way you gaze upon the Creator and the self. From this you may learn if you are capable of remaining faithful and abiding in an inner peace which allows one the larger point of view.

Impulses towards kindness are sometimes not helpful in clearing lower energy centers, for there is a distinct difference between pleasing another and serving another. Before an interaction takes place, ask the self what spiritual principle is being called upon in this interchange and what role am I playing within the dynamics of love within this situation? For that which you wish to offer to others is that which may enable them to grow spiritually. Sometimes those things are not pleasing to those whom you would wish to serve, yet, if it be your light, given to you as your own truth, that to serve, this and this must be, then this and this must be the way that you act, in kindness, in compassion, and in unity, forgiving and being forgiven. To experience forgiveness, to allow it to be generated through one, is perhaps the shortest way to the clearing of the lower energies.

Perhaps the only other thing we would suggest in this regard, because of the shortness of the time period in which we have to work, is that each in its meditation move to that portion of the self which is the inner room deep within each heart and soul, and within that inner room offer the self up in complete and total surrender to the Creator which awaits within the self, but which will not come into conscious relationship with the self unless that relationship is thirsted for and hungered for as if it were the very food and drink that sustains life, and may we say, my children, in a metaphysical sense the presence of the one infinite Creator is, indeed, absolutely necessary for the soul’s health. May you invite it. May you greet it, thank it, bless it and allow it to enable you to open the heart, to leap faithfully, joyfully and abidingly into the clear, unobstructed air of the grace and blessing of love itself. It is infinite, and it certainly seems void. And sometimes you will experience it as void and dark, and those are your desert times. Rejoice in them also and worry not if you feel blocked, because just as surely as you have entered the desert, so your steps shall bring you to the garden.

Quote:We do not advise the taking of the metaphysical temperature, for judgment is impossible from your point of view, which is limited. No matter what you think about yourself, it is very likely somewhat incorrect or at very best biased. However, there are signs that you have begun to unclog your own vessel, that you have begun to function as an instrument. These signs are simple ones and include cheerfulness, calm, kindness, love, generosity and compassion. Most of all, above all, a joy which is the natural reaction of the self to its surroundings, which communicates to others in a radiant manner as the signpost of the instrument which is functioning properly.

(05-31-2021, 05:11 PM)Minyatur Wrote: If you understand other-selves to be mirrors into the self, why would the self lack kindness with itself? Or rather, what does it say about the self for the self to lack kindness towards itself?

(05-31-2021, 06:20 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: ...Everybody should be treated equally, (no matter their status). Then it becomes unconditional.

(05-31-2021, 05:11 PM)Minyatur Wrote: If you understand other-selves to be mirrors into the self, why would the self lack kindness with itself? Or rather, what does it say about the self for the self to lack kindness towards itself?

(06-01-2021, 12:12 PM)Diana Wrote: ... Is it okay to lie to a person in order to be kind? ...

Quote:101.8 Questioner: Thank you. Could Ra give information on any way that we could give information to Greta Woodrew as to how to alleviate her present condition of swelling?

Ra: I am Ra. We may only suggest that the honor of propinquity to light carries with it the Law of Responsibility. The duty to refrain from contumely, discord, and all things which, when unresolved within, make way for workings lies before the instrument of which you speak. This entity may, if it is desired by the scribe, share our comments upon the working of the latter entity.

The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly. This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination.

(05-31-2021, 04:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: I am pondering on the subject of kindness and also if there is a difference in between kindness and loving-kindness.

Quote:24.17 Questioner: Could you tell me why the Orion group had to leave after, I believe, it figures to be a six-hundred-year period, why they had to vacate?

Ra: I am Ra. Although the impression that they had given to those who called them was that these entities were an elite group, that which you know as “Diaspora” occurred, causing much dispersion of these peoples so that they became an humbler and more honorable breed, less bellicose and more aware of the loving-kindness of the One Creator...

Would you understand this as saying that loving-kindness is a default state of the One Infinite Creator ?

Quote:90.21 Questioner: Then what you are saying is that once the path is recognized, either the positive or the negative polarized entity can find hints along his path as to the efficiency of that path. Is this correct?

Patrick, lose your emotional attachment. All acts and actions should always be done in the Neutral State. Indirectly, you are seeking praise, (from somebody), for a, (supposed), good deed. If somebody wants to perform a good deed, or an act of kindness, then it should be done anonymously and no preconditions.



Ra: I am Ra. That which you say is correct upon its own merits, but is not a repetition of our statement. Our suggestion was that within the experiential nexus of each entity within its second-density environment and within the roots of mind there were placed biases indicating to the watchful eye the more efficient of the two paths. Let us say, for want of a more precise adjective, that this Logos has a bias towards kindness.

Quote:99.10 Questioner: In that case I will just ask one additional short question as we terminate for this session. May I ask if the Logos of this system planned for the mating process as possibly depicted in Card Six— I don’t know if this is related— by some type of DNA imprinting as has been studied by our science. In many second-density creatures seem to have some sort of imprinting that creates a lifetime mating relationship and I was wondering if this was designed by the Logos for that particular mechanism and if it was also carried into third density?

Ra: I am Ra. There are some of your second-density fauna which have instinctually imprinted monogamous mating processes. The third-density physical vehicle which is the basic incarnational tool of manifestation upon your planet arose from entities thusly imprinted, all the aforesaid being designed by the Logos.

The free will of third-density entities is far stronger than the rather mild carryover from second-density DNA encoding and it is not part of the conscious nature of many of your mind/body/spirit complexes to be monogamous due to the exercise of free will. However, as has been noted there are many signposts in the deep mind indicating to the alert adept the more efficient use of catalyst. As we have said, the Logos of your peoples has a bias towards kindness.

It seems to me that Ra is saying that our Logos is using kindness to demonstrate that the right-hand path is the most efficient. I wonder how exactly it accomplishes that demonstration?


The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, Sogyal Rimpoche; Harper San Francisco, 1992.

Quote:By the power and truth of this practice, may all beings have happiness and the cause of happiness, which is loving-kindness. May all be free from sorrow and the causes of sorrow, which are fear, hatred and delusion. May all never be separated from the sacred happiness, which is sorrowless. And may all live in equanimity, without too much attachment and too much aversion; and live, believing in the equality of all that lives.

Then without kindness there is no happiness?

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1992/1992_1029_draft.aspx

Quote:...You are not, for example, naturally depressed or frightened. The lightness, the openness, the loving-kindness, the generosity and patience, the energy, the courage. Those are all qualities that are natural to you. They are small seeds within you. But if you take a small seed, put it in a pot and then put it in a dark closet, it cannot grow. It needs light...

Kindness being part of our natural state.


https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1989/1989_0311.aspx

Quote:About the lower energy centers and their blockages we could speak for many, many hours, yet much has already been spoken about these blockages. We can only say that there is no body of philosophical or spiritual material upon your planet, of which we are aware, that has not within it some good insights into the voyager’s search for the peaceful inner self. Thus, it is not a matter of pointing you in this direction or that, this religious system or that, but rather, perhaps, we may say in a very general sense that those things which keep energy from pouring at full volume into the heart energy center are those things which are not of love, but are distortions of love, seen in the faces and voices of those who have experienced pain. The essence of that which robs the heart of energy is separation. Thus, if you anger yourself, you must sit down and find that self within you which may forgive, find the grace within the self which redeems and makes one new. When the difficulty is perceived as being another, let it be clear that in some way you gaze upon the Creator and the self. From this you may learn if you are capable of remaining faithful and abiding in an inner peace which allows one the larger point of view.

Impulses towards kindness are sometimes not helpful in clearing lower energy centers, for there is a distinct difference between pleasing another and serving another. Before an interaction takes place, ask the self what spiritual principle is being called upon in this interchange and what role am I playing within the dynamics of love within this situation? For that which you wish to offer to others is that which may enable them to grow spiritually. Sometimes those things are not pleasing to those whom you would wish to serve, yet, if it be your light, given to you as your own truth, that to serve, this and this must be, then this and this must be the way that you act, in kindness, in compassion, and in unity, forgiving and being forgiven. To experience forgiveness, to allow it to be generated through one, is perhaps the shortest way to the clearing of the lower energies.

Perhaps the only other thing we would suggest in this regard, because of the shortness of the time period in which we have to work, is that each in its meditation move to that portion of the self which is the inner room deep within each heart and soul, and within that inner room offer the self up in complete and total surrender to the Creator which awaits within the self, but which will not come into conscious relationship with the self unless that relationship is thirsted for and hungered for as if it were the very food and drink that sustains life, and may we say, my children, in a metaphysical sense the presence of the one infinite Creator is, indeed, absolutely necessary for the soul’s health. May you invite it. May you greet it, thank it, bless it and allow it to enable you to open the heart, to leap faithfully, joyfully and abidingly into the clear, unobstructed air of the grace and blessing of love itself. It is infinite, and it certainly seems void. And sometimes you will experience it as void and dark, and those are your desert times. Rejoice in them also and worry not if you feel blocked, because just as surely as you have entered the desert, so your steps shall bring you to the garden.

"there is a distinct difference between pleasing another and serving another". This to me suggests that kindness is only truly useful if genuine. This is not an excuse to throw wisdom in people's faces in an unkind way. It just means to not hide truth behind kindness. We can still tell our truth in a kind way, but always in a truthful way as well. These are not mutually exclusive. Truth and kindness.


https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1983/1983_0425.aspx

Quote:We do not advise the taking of the metaphysical temperature, for judgment is impossible from your point of view, which is limited. No matter what you think about yourself, it is very likely somewhat incorrect or at very best biased. However, there are signs that you have begun to unclog your own vessel, that you have begun to function as an instrument. These signs are simple ones and include cheerfulness, calm, kindness, love, generosity and compassion. Most of all, above all, a joy which is the natural reaction of the self to its surroundings, which communicates to others in a radiant manner as the signpost of the instrument which is functioning properly.

Kindness being an integral ingredient of a well functioning instrument.

(06-01-2021, 02:50 PM)Patrick Wrote: @Ming

It seems to me that you buried that bit of wisdom in there on purpose.

In fact my friend, I receive way too much praise already. I am certainly not seeking any more of it.

I am rather detached from outcomes as it is.

--

I wish to help manifest what others needs the most AND I wish to do this in the "best" possible way. Hence my pondering on this much misunderstood concept that is kindness.

(06-01-2021, 09:10 AM)Patrick Wrote: If others are unkind towards you, then does that mean this unkindness is coming from inside you and just reflected back? I did a lot of testing regarding this and I came to the conclusion that it is more complex than that.

(06-01-2021, 12:12 PM)Diana Wrote:

(05-31-2021, 05:11 PM)Minyatur Wrote: If you understand other-selves to be mirrors into the self, why would the self lack kindness with itself? Or rather, what does it say about the self for the self to lack kindness towards itself?

I would say it constitutes separation, which I guess is what you are implying.

I feel kindness is akin to or derives from wisdom + compassion, but the compassion cannot exclude self, which is why I say it must be tempered by wisdom. That is, unless martyrdom is sought, which is a state of imbalance—but in this I mean no judgment as it is a choice. And if wisdom is not included, then lack of self-knowledge will bar authentic kindness as the self who does not understand its own motivations may be kind for inauthentic reasons.

The resolution of wisdom + compassion to me is a better goal than kindness. Kindness is too wrapped up in human rhetoric and possibly convoluted or unclear in motivations. Is it okay to lie to a person in order to be kind? The better way to view this conundrum in my mind is to try and be wise and compassionate at the same time including self in the equation. So do I lie to save another's feelings? No. I am honest. But my honesty ideally derives from authenticity, not from a "cause" to prove or in trying to make a point. And in this, one may realize that one is where they are at in this path toward deeper understanding not entwined with 3D collective consciousness, and consciously seeking a greater perspective.

And for me, in lieu of actually having balanced this conundrum, which is deep and many layered, I, in my imbalance, choose to fall on the side of truth, authenticity, and honesty as far as I am able to discern it, as this to me has the greater importance in achieving the final goal of balance (which is only my perspective and not meant as a guide for anyone else). In doing so, I so often fall short of kindness, though, I have made headway over the decades of pursuing this balance. Not really much in the bigger scheme of things, but as is just about everything in this existence, what we think will be is almost never what it becomes. So kindness, having begun as an issue for me long ago as a young adult, has opened a vast and unexpected landscape view of, as Ra puts it, learn/teaching-teach/learning, which has pointed me toward seeking wisdom + compassion in its incomprehensible fullness.

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2004/2004_0215.aspx Q`uo Wrote:when experience is taken in at the level of consensus reality and conscious thought, much of the detail of the actual transactions taking place between entities is lost. The nuances are washed away by the grossness of words and actions, and the intentions, the energies that are being exchanged between two people, or a person and a place, or a person and a situation, are grossly oversimplified so that they can be consciously understood. Even in the most subtle and quick mind, there is that limit of rapidity of the accumulation of fact and the intuition, the ability for direct insight, is hampered. What the social memory complex does as entities move into it and begin to, shall we say, “get it” is to empower and enable the personal shell of personality to relax and lift away from specificity so that it may become less reactive and more stable. The personality shell of third density is unnecessary in fourth density, and the great gift of the seventh sub-octave of third density is that the social memory complex has enough energy now to be accessed by intention.

(06-01-2021, 12:54 PM)Patrick Wrote: Being truthful in a kind way is something I seek to become more skilled at. I think we can indeed equate this to compassionate-wisdom.

For example, one can be truthful while being considerate. There are many ways one can unite truth and kindness. They are not mutually exclusive in my opinion.

(05-31-2021, 04:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: I am pondering on the subject of kindness and also if there is a difference in between kindness and loving-kindness.

(05-31-2021, 04:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: Would you understand this as saying that loving-kindness is a default state of the One Infinite Creator ?

(05-31-2021, 04:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: It seems to me that Ra is saying that our Logos is using kindness to demonstrate that the right-hand path is the most efficient. I wonder how exactly it accomplishes that demonstration?

(05-31-2021, 04:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: Then without kindness there is no happiness?

(05-31-2021, 04:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: "there is a distinct difference between pleasing another and serving another". This to me suggests that kindness is only truly useful if genuine. This is not an excuse to throw wisdom in people's faces in an unkind way. It just means to not hide truth behind kindness. We can still tell our truth in a kind way, but always in a truthful way as well. These are not mutually exclusive. Truth and kindness.

(06-03-2021, 04:47 AM)Louisabell Wrote: Where I see the difference of kindness and loving-kindness is in the degree of acceptance. You can be kind to someone because they are another supporter of your favourite team, maybe you walk past someone with the same team jersey and decide to smile and wave. You can be kind to your coworkers because it makes for a more enjoyable workday. But loving-kindness, I believe, is expressing the full acceptance of another as a being of unity. It is unconditional and it is all encompassing. It is saying that no matter what you do, what you think, what you say, I will always accept you and I will always see the best in you.

(06-03-2021, 07:42 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote:

(06-03-2021, 04:47 AM)Louisabell Wrote: Where I see the difference of kindness and loving-kindness is in the degree of acceptance. You can be kind to someone because they are another supporter of your favourite team, maybe you walk past someone with the same team jersey and decide to smile and wave. You can be kind to your coworkers because it makes for a more enjoyable workday. But loving-kindness, I believe, is expressing the full acceptance of another as a being of unity. It is unconditional and it is all encompassing. It is saying that no matter what you do, what you think, what you say, I will always accept you and I will always see the best in you.

If we are all one, why is the flavour of kindness or love, conditional?
How do we unite as "SMC Earth" , if we are only letting those vetted into the uncontional love club?

(06-03-2021, 08:24 AM)Patrick Wrote: Human interactions are meant to be catalyzing and I find that cultivating kindness in all interactions always give good results overall.

(06-03-2021, 08:24 AM)Patrick Wrote: The way we are raised makes it difficult to differentiate in between being pleasant and being kind. And what makes it even more difficult to grasp is that being kind means you are also not unpleasant.

So how to tell someone a hard truth in a considerate and kind way without that being unpleasant? I get the feeling this is the work of eons.

(06-03-2021, 07:59 AM)Louisabell Wrote:

(06-03-2021, 07:42 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote:

(06-03-2021, 04:47 AM)Louisabell Wrote: Where I see the difference of kindness and loving-kindness is in the degree of acceptance. You can be kind to someone because they are another supporter of your favourite team, maybe you walk past someone with the same team jersey and decide to smile and wave. You can be kind to your coworkers because it makes for a more enjoyable workday. But loving-kindness, I believe, is expressing the full acceptance of another as a being of unity. It is unconditional and it is all encompassing. It is saying that no matter what you do, what you think, what you say, I will always accept you and I will always see the best in you.

If we are all one, why is the flavour of kindness or love, conditional?
How do we unite as "SMC Earth" , if we are only letting those vetted into the uncontional love club?

I think the issue with conditional love/kindness is that it cannot stand up to the stress test. We are changeable and can break down, we know this about ourselves, so to be loved conditionally means that now you are beholden to keep acting a certain way in order to maintain that love connection. In a way it is a restriction.

The truer freedom is to be accepted unconditionally, then you don't have to waste any mental resources on acting in certain ways. You can truly be yourself in every moment with only your own sense of morality to guide you.  And being unconditionally loving/kind to the self would be very freeing I would imagine.

But I think once there is a threshold of people at that place, the quicker that others will learn to love unconditionally also. An environment of total acceptance of one's self and other would make SMC formation easier. I see the issue on Earth at this time is that there is not enough support available for the emotional healing necessary, unfortunately.

I'm not sure if I answered your question.

(06-03-2021, 07:42 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: I was more speaking to your understanding that there is a way you would feel towards someone who you call a supporter of your favorite team, as opposed to someone who you determine is more worthy of the eternal moment of unity.
When we look at the world through the eyes of unconditional love and unity, all becomes either love, or a call for more love. Surely the point of meditation is to live in the eternal moment and accept all from this place.

(06-03-2021, 07:42 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: I feel like some of the most profound experiences happen in our darkest hour of complete misery and surrender.

(06-03-2021, 07:42 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: So to say that there is not enough support available for the emotional healing necessary, seems to be missing the point and necessity of behavior that can be perceived as dark, by those who fail to recognise the perfection in all things.

(06-03-2021, 09:34 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: I feel like some of the most profound experiences happen in our darkest hour of complete misery and surrender.

So to say that there is not enough support available for the emotional healing necessary, seems to be missing the point and necessity of behavior that can be perceived as dark, by those who fail to recognise the perfection in all things.

(06-03-2021, 09:56 AM)Louisabell Wrote: ... but I would imagine that seeing the perfection in all things would be pretty far along the path? We can certainly try at it, but there are still many tragedies in this world that still cause catalytic action in me.

(06-03-2021, 09:56 AM)Louisabell Wrote: We can only work with what we have and where we are at.

(06-03-2021, 09:56 AM)Louisabell Wrote: Also I see people calling out for emotional support in this world. I see it all the time.

(06-03-2021, 09:56 AM)Louisabell Wrote: ...I would say there are various levels of depth that we are speaking about though. I think you can be kind to a person without loving them, but just because you are a nice friendly person. Then one can grow to love one person unconditionally, like their life partner. What I think you spoke to at the end though contains the realisation of unity, a sort of loving-unity which I think is better termed compassion maybe. That I think takes much more to master.

(06-03-2021, 09:56 AM)Louisabell Wrote: Agreed, but I would imagine that seeing the perfection in all things would be pretty far along the path? We can certainly try at it, but there are still many tragedies in this world that still cause catalytic action in me. We can only work with what we have and where we are at. Also I see people calling out for emotional support in this world. I see it all the time.

(06-01-2021, 09:10 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(05-31-2021, 05:11 PM)Minyatur Wrote: If you understand other-selves to be mirrors into the self, why would the self lack kindness with itself? Or rather, what does it say about the self for the self to lack kindness towards itself?

Yes, kindness and the mirroring effect is an interesting discussion.

If others are unkind towards you, then does that mean this unkindness is coming from inside you and just reflected back? I did a lot of testing regarding this and I came to the conclusion that it is more complex than that.

I think it is a sign of rejection of your sharing. If you output only loving-kindness and unkindness is mirrored back, then it is a rejection of your offering.

But as with any mirroring, it is always good to look inside and see if that is indeed something inside you that is being reflected or if it is just a simple rejection. It's always good to ask ourselves that question.