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The us navy already has the advanced tech - Ymarsakar - 03-29-2021
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38937/navy-ufo-patent-documents-talk-of-spacetime-modification-weapon-detail-experimental-testing
This article is the latest in a series of work detailing how america s latest r n d is not limited to 3rd density jet craft like f 35s.
What else have they been hiding? The ufo reproductions iamraw mentioned to don? With this type of technology, would it not keep a small group in power if they had access to this tech and the general population did not?
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - Black Dragon - 03-29-2021
Incidentally the Navy are also the ones who confirmed videos of encounters with UFO's recently. It seems they are the ones mainly doing this disclosure stuff lately, maybe they know it's all going to come out soon enough so maybe they are gearing up to try to get ahead of the game and sway the narrative the way they want the public to perceive it, more "damage control" at this point because any false flag invasion plots have a high likelihood to fail with the current timeline dynamics.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - Diana - 03-29-2021
I may be off-topic, but I'd like to speak generally, or perhaps I might say meander, on the subject of hidden technologies.
I think it is safe to say that there is MUCH technology that isn't made public. All one has to do is look at so-called advancement over the last 40 or 50 years to surmise logically that the public narrative is not transparent given the brilliance of many scientists. I personally think some advancements go way beyond even what is leaked—which is not much more than a guess. But that is where most humans are, so it isn't really surprising. Most people as far as I can tell do not have a clean link between the conscious and unconscious mind (this connection is reflected in the Significator of the Spirit).
I personally do not think this 3D-early 4D world is okay, although I admit to having a certain detachment. That detachment is uneven, because I find that the law of responsibility enters in and humanity has caused damage beyond its own species. Some people (wanderers) seem to have the ability to accept that "all is well." I can understand that mindset to a certain degree, given a certain point of view. But there is also the physical reality here, now. The technology we have is pretty dangerous, and the degree to which we have upset the ecosystems and the oxygen base etc. is precarious. I suppose this all makes sense when looking at the culmination of development of the mind in entities over millennia—especially entities with free will and as Ra puts it, experiencing manyness.
Wanderers who come into this situation at this time, with so much here that is beautiful, and so much that is precarious, are as Ra puts it:
Quote:12.28 ▶ Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?
Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.
And so, here we are. It is my hope that if humanity ekes through the imbalances here on Earth caused, I think, from the collective consciousness and the available technology being out of sync, then at some point into 4D we as a species will begin using technology for the greater good (all of it, not just pieces here and there), and not for profit or power.
I think activism has its place. The exposure of hidden technologies has been a noble cause for many who have done it. William Cooper comes to mind, and his book, Behold a Pale Horse, published circa 1990. And Steven Greer. There are many more who have dedicated their lives to the truth.
Unfortunately, the Internet has opened up a huge can of worms regarding profit and power and disinformation, while at the same time allowing for alternative sources of information. Discernment is needed more than ever.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - Black Dragon - 03-29-2021
(03-29-2021, 01:24 PM)Diana Wrote: I may be off-topic, but I'd like to speak generally, or perhaps I might say meander, on the subject of hidden technologies.
I think it is safe to say that there is MUCH technology that isn't made public. All one has to do is look at so-called advancement over the last 40 or 50 years to surmise logically that the public narrative is not transparent given the brilliance of many scientists. I personally think some advancements go way beyond even what is leaked—which is not much more than a guess. But that is where most humans are, so it isn't really surprising. Most people as far as I can tell do not have a clean link between the conscious and unconscious mind (this connection is reflected in the Significator of the Spirit).
I personally do not think this 3D-early 4D world is okay, although I admit to having a certain detachment. That detachment is uneven, because I find that the law of responsibility enters in and humanity has caused damage beyond its own species. Some people (wanderers) seem to have the ability to accept that "all is well." I can understand that mindset to a certain degree, given a certain point of view. But there is also the physical reality here, now. The technology we have is pretty dangerous, and the degree to which we have upset the ecosystems and the oxygen base etc. is precarious. I suppose this all makes sense when looking at the culmination of development of the mind in entities over millennia—especially entities with free will and as Ra puts it, experiencing manyness.
Wanderers who come into this situation at this time, with so much here that is beautiful, and so much that is precarious, are as Ra puts it:
Quote:12.28 ▶ Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?
Ra: I am Ra. Few there are of fourth density. The largest number of Wanderers, as you call them, are of the sixth density. The desire to serve must be distorted towards a great deal of purity of mind and what you may call foolhardiness or bravery, depending upon your distortion complex judgment. The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.
And so, here we are. It is my hope that if humanity ekes through the imbalances here on Earth caused, I think, from the collective consciousness and the available technology being out of sync, then at some point into 4D we as a species will begin using technology for the greater good (all of it, not just pieces here and there), and not for profit or power.
I think activism has its place. The exposure of hidden technologies has been a noble cause for many who have done it. William Cooper comes to mind, and his book, Behold a Pale Horse, published circa 1990. And Steven Greer. There are many more who have dedicated their lives to the truth.
Unfortunately, the Internet has opened up a huge can of worms regarding profit and power and disinformation, while at the same time allowing for alternative sources of information. Discernment is needed more than ever.
Yeah the feeling of responsibility to humanity makes it hard to detach from issues like this. It's a lot more than "they are keeping all the fun space ships from us". Those same technological advancements could eliminate disease and poverty, and even if they could make an STO moral argument for not immediately telling people about aliens because of free will/shock, they could have shared the technologies without admitting where they came from and make it seem they were purely developed on Earth. They have not, so it's obviously not about that.
The tech for the propulsion the Navy admits to tinkering with is probably an old hat long since perfected. The material states that as of the 80's they already had several anti gravity craft that could reach half light speed. Lol. Impressive from a conventional science/scifi perspective, but to an advanced civilization really just unconscious little rivetted and welded alunimum/titanium turds with half-assed anti gravity the seat ripped out of a fighter jet and a track ball to steer. Nice for loading up with psychotronic weapons and playing dirty with helpless humans, but really a pretty garbage starship. Like not even bottom of the barrel, like the musty drippings underneath compared to what other civilizations have. Still, would be useful enough for getting around our own planet and star system, and maybe short interstellar journeys that would still take a number of years to complete.
Since the late 80's and onward they have been able to funnel a whole lot more money into black projects than they had up to that point, so I wouldn't be surprised they made some major advancements since then. These military industrial types think they are pretty slick but they are fumbling adolescent buffoons compared to some wanders who might be mopping up isle 3 and wasting their tax dollars to support this crap and probably rolled around in much slicker ships at some point in their incarnational history. It's really just sad the level of character that the people with real 3d power have they are so pathetic but good at making everyone else feel small. I almost want to pity them but that just enables their crap. Hopefully they will simply be pushed asside and marginalized out of power and society eventually when people wake up on a global level.
I'm just interested to see how the disclosure narrative goes over the next few years here.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - Ymarsakar - 03-29-2021
If you are interested in what the navy is doing, michael salla wrote a book using thompkins work at rand.
Not sure how to summarize the info. It is basically the story of how the military industrial guys got into the dark state. Plus the air force ssp book. With both, plus other things, i pieced together what corey goode was talking about.
There is a continent of solar warden people in the us navy that eant to break the chains of the dark state. By releasing this info to the oublic when it wad protected by classification lvls. Levels the us president cannot bypass or get acccess under.
The entire 1960s to 1980s backstory of the navy and air force made sense. There were other things going on too. 3d or 4d et helping humans vs draco darks. It is really complicated.
But these sources are almost all whistleblower 3rd density physical trstimonies. They are not the telepathic contacts people used before.
For years people were talking about full disclosure. The navy patents were one of the more concrete evidence.
The air force has stargate sg1.
Then there is babylon 5.
The air force had been co opted by operation paperclip via nasa. It was through a disinfo leak through goode that they figured out they were being used as traitors against usa. They then turned into space force. Evidence 2.
Gamestop is the harbinger of the financial quantum reset.
I kind of get the sense i am one of the only people that analyze intel at this broader view level.
The earth will be ok. The humans on her are way more fragile.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - STAR-ONE - 03-30-2021
Is he pushing the partial disclosure of UFOs too, preparing the public for a possible invasion in the future (Project BlueBeam) ?
Do the Draco have the opportunity to land here on Earth physically, pretending to be friendly confederation members ?
Michael Salla makes it clear that one must flee any kind of alien ship that sounding metallic! The positives mainly use light ship (merkaba).
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - zedro - 03-30-2021
I wouldn't worry, I feel 'Project Bluebeam' is one of those psyops designed to (try and) make people in the disclosure/awakened circles paranoid about contact, or to interfere with possible positive contacts (which people are getting individually en mass) by creating a bias. If large scale 'negative' contact were to occur, this opens up large scale 'positive' contact. I feel the intuition on discerning which is which would be obvious. And the notion of 'fleeing' seems silly, they either require your permission or they don't, but how exactly do you run from such a thing? You most likely couldn't evade police (or the tax man) if you wanted to.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - STAR-ONE - 03-30-2021
I mean "fleeing" as a precaution not to be tempted to want to board their ships.
They could claim a whole bunch of things in order to get the masses to join them and promising them a better future on another planet (a bit like in the Interstellar movie even if the scenario is slightly different).
I doubt that the negative forces will leave our planet without doing maximum damage beforehand unless eventually an agreement is reached between the Confederation of Planets and the Empire of Orion.
The wheat from the chaff must be sorted and that should happen shortly, it remains to be seen by what means (I have my idea) and when.
My posts are ringing wrong in your language, I think I will stop posting because it is causing too much confusion for you !
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - Ymarsakar - 03-30-2021
The translation is not working as well given these complicated vocabulary/words.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - STAR-ONE - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 07:13 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: The translation is not working as well given these complicated vocabulary/words.
The whole in general and still understood I hope.
And if I post, it is to see according to the answer given, to see if I am in the wrong direction or not, I do not necessarily take the answers for granted but I make my opinion.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - zedro - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 04:30 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: My posts are ringing wrong in your language, I think I will stop posting because it is causing too much confusion for you !
Don't worry about me, it's just a discussion. If someone misunderstands you, you can take the oppertunity to refine the language, or just ignore.
I have thought alot about this conundrum of ships coming, and even had a very specific lucid dream about it (I normally don't have this type of dream) that was very detailed like a video game or sci-fi epic. Basically the UFOs were hunting us and I realized at some point that there was no escape or hiding, so I 'accepted' being taken abord. I was put into a surgical pod where all my flesh was removed (like being split in half and taking off a one piece costume) and inserted/merged into a mechanical suit (mech warrior). It was gory and disturbing yet I felt no fear, was actually like a curiosity. It was obviously a ploy to assimilate but at the same time it didn't because my spirit was strong, so only the body was destroyed.
So while I couldn't flee, and I knew these were not good guys, I basically gave permission and the results were obviously not ideal lol.
My feeling is this is like the vax thread, some will instinctively know, others will be left with the choice, and some are simply already destined. That being said it's still good to bring up, as the more background people have on the possibilities, the better their choices will be.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - Ymarsakar - 03-30-2021
(03-30-2021, 01:10 PM)STAR-ONE Wrote:(03-30-2021, 07:13 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: The translation is not working as well given these complicated vocabulary/words.
The whole in general and still understood I hope.
And if I post, it is to see according to the answer given, to see if I am in the wrong direction or not, I do not necessarily take the answers for granted but I make my opinion.
I am not clear on what those questions mean, but I will address them in general. Those topics are discussed by Salla and others, but I do not think they will be critical to the strategy employed.
A "light ship" as perceived by humans, would be something in a dream or on the astral. It can't manifest into reality unless someone is on the astral themselves, 4th density at least. So far humans that I know that have activated the mer ka bah, are transported to what they think of as the moon or other places, but their physical body does not move. This transportation is more in the Dream time or Ether.
While presumably there are physical ships, most of that comes from human shenanigans. The Ciakar are not supposed to be on the surface, which includes the air space as well. That does not include the Ether/Astral/Space however. So there is essentially no where physical one needs to run from or to. The astral world is not a place one can run from, other than closing the portals to it.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - STAR-ONE - 03-31-2021
(03-30-2021, 10:14 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote:(03-30-2021, 01:10 PM)STAR-ONE Wrote:(03-30-2021, 07:13 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: The translation is not working as well given these complicated vocabulary/words.
The whole in general and still understood I hope.
And if I post, it is to see according to the answer given, to see if I am in the wrong direction or not, I do not necessarily take the answers for granted but I make my opinion.
I am not clear on what those questions mean, but I will address them in general. Those topics are discussed by Salla and others, but I do not think they will be critical to the strategy employed.
A "light ship" as perceived by humans, would be something in a dream or on the astral. It can't manifest into reality unless someone is on the astral themselves, 4th density at least. So far humans that I know that have activated the mer ka bah, are transported to what they think of as the moon or other places, but their physical body does not move. This transportation is more in the Dream time or Ether.
While presumably there are physical ships, most of that comes from human shenanigans. The Ciakar are not supposed to be on the surface, which includes the air space as well. That does not include the Ether/Astral/Space however. So there is essentially no where physical one needs to run from or to. The astral world is not a place one can run from, other than closing the portals to it.
I understand better since reading the last book by Danaan E.
I read a lot of information and it's such a mess to navigate but now my understanding is much clearer!
I am not currently fortunate enough to be able to channel anything but my understanding is improving thanks in part to all of you, thank you.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - STAR-ONE - 03-31-2021
(03-30-2021, 03:32 PM)zedro Wrote:(03-30-2021, 04:30 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: My posts are ringing wrong in your language, I think I will stop posting because it is causing too much confusion for you !
Don't worry about me, it's just a discussion. If someone misunderstands you, you can take the oppertunity to refine the language, or just ignore.
I have thought alot about this conundrum of ships coming, and even had a very specific lucid dream about it (I normally don't have this type of dream) that was very detailed like a video game or sci-fi epic. Basically the UFOs were hunting us and I realized at some point that there was no escape or hiding, so I 'accepted' being taken abord. I was put into a surgical pod where all my flesh was removed (like being split in half and taking off a one piece costume) and inserted/merged into a mechanical suit (mech warrior). It was gory and disturbing yet I felt no fear, was actually like a curiosity. It was obviously a ploy to assimilate but at the same time it didn't because my spirit was strong, so only the body was destroyed.
So while I couldn't flee, and I knew these were not good guys, I basically gave permission and the results were obviously not ideal lol.
My feeling is this is like the vax thread, some will instinctively know, others will be left with the choice, and some are simply already destined. That being said it's still good to bring up, as the more background people have on the possibilities, the better their choices will be.
Ah yes a little traumatic your dream anyway! I work a lot on myself so that I can remember all my dreams and I'm doing it pretty well, I'm happy.
For my part, I often dream of water overflowing everywhere, wonder what that means?
And I recently dreamed that I had been forcibly vaccinated against my will and the doctor was telling me "wait it is nothing yet, you will really see the side effects by September / October ... Curious about this that we think about it.
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - Ymarsakar - 03-31-2021
"For my part, I often dream of water overflowing everywhere, wonder what that means?"
A Divine Flood, Lemuria or Atlantis.
""wait it is nothing yet, you will really see the side effects by September / October ... Curious about this that we think about it."
Prophetic dreams
RE: The us navy already has the advanced tech - STAR-ONE - 03-31-2021
(03-31-2021, 07:26 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "For my part, I often dream of water overflowing everywhere, wonder what that means?"
A Divine Flood, Lemuria or Atlantis.
""wait it is nothing yet, you will really see the side effects by September / October ... Curious about this that we think about it."
Prophetic dreams
It roughly matches Jony Patri's predictions.