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Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
TL;DR; If you're going to check only one segment, it should be this one (mind-blowing): https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19027&pid=292216#pid292216
My friends, in this thread I am going to dissect an amazing video where Bernardo Kastrup (Author, philosopher (ontology, philosophy of mind), computer scientist (AI, reconfigurable computing)) shares with us his understanding of the Law of One from a mainstream scientific and empirical point of view. This is basically what the Lyricus teaching order calls the Grand Portal. The irrefutable scientific discovery of the soul or what we would call time/space. He does not refer to it as the Law of One by name, but there is no doubt that's what it is.
This is the video. I will be making a post for every segment that I find noteworthy by giving you a link that brings you directly to the part of the video that I am referring in that post.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Materialism is easy to disprove.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=4m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=7m39s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Louisabell - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 06:09 PM)Patrick Wrote: Materialism is easy to disprove.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=4m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=7m39s
OK, this is a complete derailment, but I didn't know you could make links to specific time-stamps in a YouTube video!!!! You are a freakin genuis Patrick
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
He is explaining why science adopted the materialistic point of view. Materialism was useful in the early days of science because it isolated the investigator from the investigated which led to objectivity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=11m47s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Matter is not a standalone reality, it is a representation. An image of something else deeper. It is actually mental in nature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=14m28s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Zubin makes a good analogy of trying to understand what another person actually is by just using its image on a computer screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=16m11s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - AnthroHeart - 03-26-2021
My Intention Repeater, from which I made several healing chambers including a Pleiadian healing chamber,
was made using Law of One concepts.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Established fact, psychedelics only reduce brain activity, they do not increase brain activity anywhere. This is while you are having the most riches experiences of your life. No workable hypothesis can be made from the materialistic point of view on this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=21m02s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Ming the Merciful - 03-26-2021
Patrick, I like where you are going on this one. A theory? According to what is happening on YouTube and what appears to be a sudden "Realization" of the "Law of One". Something occurred to me? Running parallel is also the "Law of Universal Attraction" and similar "Positive Energy" categories. According to Quantum Physics, (and the Law of Attraction), a thought can transcend time and space, and is reflected anywhere within the Universe. If people are "Awakening", (and there are enough of them), then it will begin to start gathering momentum and picking-up speed. I totally agree with you because of the number of "Positive" videos coming online. I right by your side my friend. Let's see how far it will go?
Peace Brother.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
He explains why the correlations in between a surgeon operating on your brain and its effect on your experience is not evidence of materialism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=22m39s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Matter exists. It's the interpretation of what we call matter that is being redefined, not its existence per se.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=28m30s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Physics is hitting the bottom of our resolution with which we can be aware of reality (our interface).
Science is the study of nature's behavior and not of what nature is (the type of questions the scientific method can answer).
Important for scientists to realize so that you can do good science instead of bad philosophy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=35m34s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
We know we have inner life, but we fail to apply this properly to the external world.
Matter is how our mental processes look like when observed from a certain perspective.
We can explain everything in terms of mentation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=40m45s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
THIS ONE WILL BLOW YOUR MIND !!!
Research on dissociation, as in multiple personality disorder, has shown that it takes place OUTSIDE the brain !
If one of your alter egos is blind for example, the part of the brain that processes visual signals goes blank only when that persona is in effect. Otherwise, that part of the brain starts working properly again for the other personas.
That research is clear empirical evidence that the brain is only an interface and that mental processes are initiated outside of the brain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=50m35s
We are all alter egos of a single unique mind. The Universe is one mind with multiple personalities.
Obvious for LOO students, but there is now empirical scientific evidence of this !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=55m36s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
This one is also a mind-blower.
When a person with multiple personality disorder dreams, the alter egos of that person are having the same dream but they each experience that dream from different perspectives. They each see the others as different people in that same dream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=1h1m27s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - zedro - 03-26-2021
Patrick, I would really recommend you get a Gaia subscription (you can get a free trial) and power through David Wilcock's Wisdom Teachings series, it's a great collection of all sorts of new science stuff, and he's also a proponent of the LOO. It's a few years old but it basically covers all this with science backing.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Explaining why inanimate objects are not self-aware even if everything exists within one mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=1h16m17s
Also, drawing a line at where something becomes a true disassociation of the One. He draws that line at self sustaining metabolism. Which incidentally excludes viruses, but includes bacteria. A virus is not a part of the Creator that is experiencing, but a bacteria is a part of the Creator that is experiencing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=1h22m17s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Why do we have to compete for resources and why is there suffering then ? Why isn't just magic everywhere ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=1h25m30s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - flofrog - 03-26-2021
Whoa Patrick we need to open a class with time off from other things
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Discussing freewill here and his views are really interesting for comparison with the Law of One.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=1h30m17s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
The subject of death now. This one is important. Because this is where our current science now has evidence that we do not stop there. Like I am fond of saying, on Earth we are the Creator with many filters and on death we just remove some of those filters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=1h34m18s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
Talking about evolution of consciousness as being more of a push than a pull. As we go we are given a push (catalysts) so that we may know if we are getting colder or warmer to what we want to be or to knowing who we are (or always were).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=1h46m21s
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 06:15 PM)Louisabell Wrote: ...
OK, this is a complete derailment, but I didn't know you could make links to specific time-stamps in a YouTube video!!!! You are a freakin genuis Patrick
I discovered that just last week and it's very useful.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 06:43 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Patrick, I like where you are going on this one. A theory? According to what is happening on YouTube and what appears to be a sudden "Realization" of the "Law of One". Something occurred to me? Running parallel is also the "Law of Universal Attraction" and similar "Positive Energy" categories. According to Quantum Physics, (and the Law of Attraction), a thought can transcend time and space, and is reflected anywhere within the Universe. If people are "Awakening", (and there are enough of them), then it will begin to start gathering momentum and picking-up speed. I totally agree with you because of the number of "Positive" videos coming online. I right by your side my friend. Let's see how far it will go?
Peace Brother.
There are so many channelings saying that we are going through a big energy transition again at the moment. This sort of thing coming out like that right in the face of the mainstream is really a manifestation of that. That sort of thing will snowball at some point. It's going to become really difficult to sweep all the opportunities for awakening under the rug.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 08:46 PM)flofrog Wrote: Whoa Patrick we need to open a class with time off from other things
I won't always have this much time for these forums, but at this moment of my existence I do so I might as well make good metaphysical use of it. (instead of just playing video games
)
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Ymarsakar - 03-26-2021
Life is a video game
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Sacred Fool - 03-26-2021
Very interesting and intelligent video. Thanks for posting.
He gives a good critique of materialism/positivism (showing that it has no good explanation of consciousness), then offers give an interesting model of "reality" which accepts One Consciousness as axiomatic and from there builds a theory of division into beings of separated consciousness using research on Dissociative Identity Disorder.
There are some differences with Confederation philosophy, but these are on a more extended level that wouldn't be apparent to an observer on this guy's level. Examples: (1) He does not accept 1D conscious, says inanimate objects (from a virus on down) have no consciousness. (2) He does not does not have a theory of illusions upon or within illusions, sees death as being a return to the whole. (3) Beyond dying, or temporarily with psychedelics, he does not have a theory of how to loosen dissociative boundaries to begin to merge with all.
He does have a notable parallel with Confederation teachings in that he says, borrowing from religious terminology, we are God's spies. God doesn't know what we know until we experience it as us. He uses this to support the notion that, although the state following death is cool--he knows this from having used psychedelics--it's important to live life while you have the opportunity here.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Patrick - 03-26-2021
He does mention that meditation is also a way to achieve what psychedelics does. Reduces brain activity and so reduces dissociation.
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - Ming the Merciful - 03-27-2021
(03-26-2021, 07:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: THIS ONE WILL BLOW YOUR MIND !!!
Research on dissociation, as in multiple personality disorder, has shown that it takes place OUTSIDE the brain !
If one of your alter egos is blind for example, the part of the brain that processes visual signals goes blank only when that persona is in effect. Otherwise, that part of the brain starts working properly again for the other personas.
That research is clear empirical evidence that the brain is only an interface and that mental processes are initiated outside of the brain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=50m35s
We are all alter egos of a single unique mind. The Universe is one mind with multiple personalities.
Obvious for LOO students, but there is now empirical scientific evidence of this !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWp0bnMBbM&t=55m36s
Patrick, that has "Blown my Mind", (literally). The best interview I have seen in years. If it doesn't prove anything, nothing does. How did you find it? There must be similar videos circulating on that level of Cognition, (I am trying to avoid the word Intelligence). Great one Patrick.
:idea:
RE: Empirical scientific evidence of the Law of One - confusedseeker - 03-28-2021
I think the most interesting thing to me in the Law of One was how they mentioned the Physics of Dewey Larson. I wonder if his physics has spurned any new developments?