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Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - Loki - 02-12-2021
I've performed an experiment by dowsing the 22 Archetype images. I've started from the assumption that because the archetypes are so fundamental for this Logos it might have a detectable polarity consistent with the one proposed by Ra. I've used a real set of Tarot images from the Brotherhood of Light and the images printed as part of the Ra Material.
The result of the experiment was consistent for both sets of Tarot Images. I have used clockwise sense for positive or Male polarity and counter-clockwise for negative or Female polarity.
The results were more or less as expected:
No Mind Body Spirit
1 CW CCW CW
2 CCW CW CCW
3 CCW CW CCW
4 CW CCW CW
5 CW CW CW
6 CCW CCW CCW
7 CW CW CW
Archetype 22 - CCW
From the experiment it resulted that all pairs proposed by Ra for study have M/F structure.
The three Significators were all Positive while The Fool was Negative.
Ra already mentioned the anomaly of Matrix/Potentiator of the body which had the polarity inverted by the Logos for the purpose of creating the veil.
In the results of my experiment there is though another anomaly for Catalyst/Experience of the Body which seem to also have the male/female polarity inverted.
I know this is irrelevant but it seems that while the catalyst of the mind and spirit happen at the level of unconscious mind the catalyst of the body belongs to conscious mind.
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - Patrick - 02-12-2021
That's interesting.
22 is The Choice right ? So that would mean that the choice itself is Female/Negative ? Does it mean it's more inpourings than outpourings ?
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - Loki - 02-12-2021
(02-12-2021, 11:57 AM)Patrick Wrote: That's interesting.
22 is The Choice right ? So that would mean that the choice itself is Female/Negative ? Does it mean it's more inpourings than outpourings ?
I assumed that because the Significator is the entity itself, it is the initiator and by this is positive, while "the choice" which is entity's creation is as result logically negative.
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - Patrick - 02-12-2021
So for each entity, The Choice is the attractor. So we are basically pulled toward our choice. The choices related to polarity that we make during incarnation are attracted to one or the other polarity. It's more a question of how we will arrive at our final choice than actually making The Choice. Our final choice was already made at our creation and we are attracted toward it.
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - Ohr Ein Sof - 02-16-2021
(02-12-2021, 11:50 AM)Loki Wrote: I've performed an experiment by dowsing the 22 Archetype images. I've started from the assumption that because the archetypes are so fundamental for this Logos it might have a detectable polarity consistent with the one proposed by Ra. I've used a real set of Tarot images from the Brotherhood of Light and the images printed as part of the Ra Material.The Fool is both polarities. It is Unity before manifestation. YHVH.
The result of the experiment was consistent for both sets of Tarot Images. I have used clockwise sense for positive or Male polarity and counter-clockwise for negative or Female polarity.
The results were more or less as expected:
No Mind Body Spirit
1 CW CCW CW
2 CCW CW CCW
3 CCW CW CCW
4 CW CCW CW
5 CW CW CW
6 CCW CCW CCW
7 CW CW CW
Archetype 22 - CCW
From the experiment it resulted that all pairs proposed by Ra for study have M/F structure.
The three Significators were all Positive while The Fool was Negative.
Ra already mentioned the anomaly of Matrix/Potentiator of the body which had the polarity inverted by the Logos for the purpose of creating the veil.
In the results of my experiment there is though another anomaly for Catalyst/Experience of the Body which seem to also have the male/female polarity inverted.
I know this is irrelevant but it seems that while the catalyst of the mind and spirit happen at the level of unconscious mind the catalyst of the body belongs to conscious mind.
The catalyst for the body could be thought of as subconscious energies which then would be feminine or negative polarity.
Many of us fail to recognize every catalytic action handed to us and therefore fail to work with all catalyst, therefore, it affects the body complex in a very unconscious way. The subconscious mind contains the memory of every action that the conscious mind has observed whether it is a balanced or unbalanced interpretation of the conscious mind or not. The subconscious mind is VERY amenable and will accept whatever it is given. It is the inferior mind, the negative, the feminine polarity. The conscious mind the positive, masculine polarity.
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - sillypumpkins - 02-18-2021
the fool reminds me of the planet mercury in astrology, in that it tends to be presented as androgynous.... sort of like, able to transmute itself into whatever it likes ! very much reminds me of the fool
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - meadow-foreigner - 02-18-2021
Perhaps the Universal Mind is a tad more ♂ than ♀, for the active — sowing — component is required to Create newness.
It seems, though, that there is an optimal balance of a mix of ♀ and ♂ for a Creation to be ideal.
Sub-optimal levels are less than ideally balanced.
It seems, though, that there is an optimal balance of a mix of ♀ and ♂ for a Creation to be ideal.
Sub-optimal levels are less than ideally balanced.
So, for the Mind to manifest its Creations, It needs bodies, which seem to be more ♀ than ♂, as bodies are essentially receptors of nutrients from The Creation, so they can function ideally.
We've come across some short-sighted individuals who seemed to consider the body to be nothing more than a mere instrument, destitute of volition of its own (and therefore, of accountability), who seem to consider that the Original Spirit that dwells within the body is of less importance than externalities of the body, and therefore prone to nullification.
Illustrative concept: landlords and renters, and the associated ramifications of space and the belief of ownership.
Such perspective is not only a failure but prone to the consequential dissolution of the system that runs it and its premises.
The moral implications of the instrumentalization of the body by the Mind are the belief of lack of merit of the Spirit that lies within. This begets the wheel of Karma.
The social implications of the instrumentalization of the Body by the Mind are the net efficiency loss within the social system, in regards to the manifestation of the contents of the Mind.
In a simple social system, such as a swarm-mind one, the system's complexity (and thus the system's output potential) is relative to the castes that it contains and their infima and suprema. In other words, a being in a certain caste can not go further than its upper bound, in such a system.
Competitive liberalism and capitalism on Earth have a virtually limitless material upper bound, though such social-economic organization severely limits the social system's output potential due to the upper bound limitations of the Mind's manifestation in the World: fruition is limited by social divergence.
So, therefore, it is ultimately useless to disregard the Body's Spirit as it is ultimately useless to disregard the Mind's Body.
Finally, it is a gravely unintelligent act to limit a social system's complexity out of management incapabilities.
Such an act is a grave disservice to The Creation because the Universal Mind's Creations are constrained in fruition due to the aforementioned loss of manifestation potential; the ability to actually manifest in reality what beforehand was only thought.
The acts and lack thereof, within a social system, have Karmic consequences.
Wiser would it be, to foster ideally an infinitely complex social system.
Wiser would it be, to foster ideally an infinitely complex social system.
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - Ohr Ein Sof - 02-18-2021
(02-18-2021, 01:37 PM)sillypumpkins Wrote: the fool reminds me of the planet mercury in astrology, in that it tends to be presented as androgynous.... sort of like, able to transmute itself into whatever it likes ! very much reminds me of the fool
Maybe consider this when you think about The Fool... not that you should take my word for it but just think about it if you want to.
The planet connected to The Fool is Uranus or Universal Radiant Energy.
And you are so correct, it is Androgynous!
One more thing I want to share is think of The Fool as Life Breath or Ruach (think of singularity) and consider what number The Fool cooresponds with; 0; without end. The Fool is Spirit, Spiritus. Life-Power! BUT before manifestation....this card is truly amazing Silly Pumpkins! Mercury is the conscious mind or The Magician. Mercury is mental, logical, conscious, etc...The Magician is active; the Male Principle or the positive polarity.
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - sillypumpkins - 02-18-2021
thanks for the food for thought ohr!!!
RE: Male/Female Polarity of Archetypes - Loki - 06-02-2021
I believe Major Arcana doesn't have an astrological origin and it is a distortion of its understanding to force an astrological meaning on it. Ra clearly mentions that each archetype has a certain male/female polarity. Of course every concept can be viewed from any point of view because of freewill. In my experiment I've tried to stay strictly in the realm of Ra Material. In my assumption Ra's opinion on 22 cards of Major Arcana, as it's creator, was the most important.