(08-21-2021, 04:38 PM)Margan Wrote: Anders since Sweden seems to be one of the more sensible countries left on this planet - I am curious - how is covid news being relayed in the media? for example if you watch your news on TV. What do they say? do they say how many infected or dead there are? do they talk about vaccinations and how many are vaccinated? do they show video clips inciting people to get vaxxed? do they make sad shocked faces?
I have noticed news coverage (in general) seems to get more and more hysterical. Not only about Corona but also - the other day the news anchor reported that apparently the climate change was a lot worse than expected yadda yadda blablabla - shocked horrified expression on their face.
They are always so shocked! what happened to journalistic neutrality?
(in the winter when there was snow (yes imagine snow in december, incredible huh   ) they made a breaking news special edition.
The news anchor with "bigshockingeyes" - "if you see this and have only just tuned in - please DO NOT LEAVE THE HOUSE! there is snow in the streets (screenshot to a guy in the street standing there, maybe couple cms snow on the ground, not more, and dude was pointing to a bus sign saying with "bigshockingeyes" "the buses are still going but they might stop ANY MINUTE if this continues and it WILL continue to snow")
Then screenshot to a reporter standing on a mountain top, windy and snowing - "we have ONE METER snow on this mountain top  "bigshockingeyes" and as you see it still CONTINUES to snow" and on and on they went... I turned it off )
And covid reporting is not much different, always drama drama. I don't recall news being that hysterical when I was younger....

(08-16-2021, 01:51 PM)Margan Wrote: Patrick maybe you could refrain from calling the anti vaccination narrative STS, I don't think it is our place here to judge

Quote:The people speaking out against the experimental gene therapies called vaccines come from all different background, many scientists and doctors among them

(08-22-2021, 06:39 PM)unity100 Wrote:

(08-22-2021, 01:36 PM)omcasey Wrote: Did you see part 2 to that?? put out yesterday.

(08-22-2021, 07:09 PM)Patrick Wrote: Humm, so then it's: "Same old. Same Old".

(08-23-2021, 03:27 AM)Margan Wrote: One more thing re "lethal misinformation":
how would you feel if one of your relatives got the jab because TV and news constantly repeat it is a beneficial life-saver and needs to be done to get us out of the pandemic and then that relative died one day later of lung embolism?
Would you feel "well informed" that such event could indeed happen?
I know such person, this is the owner of a greek restaurant who died after his first jab of Pfizer.
His wife is devastated and going into early retirement. How do you think she and the rest of the family feels -her husband  took the jab because everyone said it was safe and important to do so and it killed him?
I have not known a single person who died from the covid but now I do know one who did not survive the vaccine.
Many of the so-called vaccine-skeptics have seen for themselves or with loved ones side effects - on one demonstration in Munich there was a girl who has been sitting in a wheelchair since she got a tetanus shot in her teenage years.
How do you think such people feel at the prospect of potentially mandatory vaccines for the whole population? Do you think they would welcome such a move by politics?
(now I am not saying tetanus is all bad, I got it myself before my OP, this is just to illustrate my point that there are indeed side effects to all those things, the conventional vaccines that have been out a long time and even more so those entirely new generations of jabs)

(08-23-2021, 08:18 AM)Nikki Wrote: ...You do not see anyone unjabbed trying to force others not to get vaccinated, by cutting off their lively hood and human rights to freedom. I only see one side of polarity forcing its beliefs on the other and it makes one wonder why, I just do not see the love in forcing anyone against their will...

(08-23-2021, 09:00 AM)Patrick Wrote: The other thing I observe is people trying to convince others that their point of view is better. That is another matter of course, but I do not see anyone trying to enforce their point of view. For one thing, that would be against the rules.

I agree that what our societies are doing right now, with all the coercive efforts, are actually working against their cause of promoting vaccination. Instead, as you said, it is having the opposite effect. They will pay the price by facing the result that less people will get vaccinated. I hope our societies will learn from this at least.

(08-23-2021, 09:00 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(08-23-2021, 08:18 AM)Nikki Wrote: ...You do not see anyone unjabbed trying to force others not to get vaccinated, by cutting off their lively hood and human rights to freedom. I only see one side of polarity forcing its beliefs on the other and it makes one wonder why, I just do not see the love in forcing anyone against their will...

I do not see any "sides" on this forum trying to force others into anything. I think seekers of the Law of One pretty much all share disdain for control and enforcement.

What I observe is people trying to convince themselves that their point of view is valid. This should not be needed since all point of views are valid but we like having that reassurance nonetheless. The other thing I observe is people trying to convince others that their point of view is better. That is another matter of course, but I do not see anyone trying to enforce their point of view. For one thing, that would be against the rules.

I agree that what our societies are doing right now, with all the coercive efforts, are actually working against their cause of promoting vaccination. Instead, as you said, it is having the opposite effect. They will pay the price by facing the result that less people will get vaccinated. I hope our societies will learn from this at least.

(08-23-2021, 09:11 AM)Margan Wrote: That is for example what you do when you write the anti-vaxx "movement" are being STS. By doing that you imply that the pro-vaccination is better or STO.... which is your  own view.
That is even against Ras own words - forgive me I do not find the exact quote but he said something like we should not and could not gauge anothers polarity and STS / STO.
And you are doing just that with a sweeping statement of a whole bunch of heterogenous people who have all different reasons and views for being against this official vaccination narrative.
I asked you please not to do this but I see you have left your post the way it was.

(08-23-2021, 09:38 AM)Nikki Wrote: I agree with your points of love and allowing free choice.  Yes, have noted some trying to force others to see things their way by insulting, by name calling and every time someone does judge another, it causes defensiveness.  STS or STO is a choice not something we should not judge another by that one is better than other.  It is a teacher of love.  The last thing one would ever find in these teachings is judgment of some against others.  As far as those trying to control and delete our free will, there is karma, and how her beauty will play out, is always a beautiful site.  

(08-23-2021, 10:02 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(08-23-2021, 09:38 AM)Nikki Wrote: I agree with your points of love and allowing free choice.  Yes, have noted some trying to force others to see things their way by insulting, by name calling and every time someone does judge another, it causes defensiveness.  STS or STO is a choice not something we should not judge another by that one is better than other.  It is a teacher of love.  The last thing one would ever find in these teachings is judgment of some against others.  As far as those trying to control and delete our free will, there is karma, and how her beauty will play out, is always a beautiful site.  

I would encourage you to report any posts that you come across that insults other members or use name calling towards another member. That behavior goes against forum rules.

Regarding Karma, personally whatever any entity has done, I prefer to forgive them rather than to see them having to suffer their Karma. 11 years ago, I forgave the Elites and all of STS and that brought me a great sense of peace. It helped me remain emotionally detached from their machinations while continuing to promote information and ideas that works against their plans.

Quote:1) The Cornerstone

The key governing principle of the entire Bring4th community, and all L/L Research social media venues, is the request that all members treat others with respect, especially when disagreeing. The participant may disagree to the bone with an idea without personally attacking the author.

Quote:34.4 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define karma?

Ra: I am Ra. Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable.

Quote:17.20 Questioner: How did this aggressive action against a playmate affect Jesus in his spiritual growth? Where did he go after his physical death?

Ra: I am Ra. The entity you call Jesus was galvanized by this experience and began a lifetime of seeking and searching. This entity studied first day and night in its own religious constructs which you call Judaism and was learned enough to be a rabbi, as you call the teach/learners of this particular rhythm or distortion of understanding, at a very young age.

At the age of approximately thirteen and one-half of your years, this entity left the dwelling place of its earthly family, as you would call it, and walked into many other places seeking further information. This went on sporadically until the entity was approximately twenty-five, at which time it returned to its family dwelling, and learned and practiced the art of its earthly father.

When the entity had become able to integrate or synthesize all experiences, the entity began to speak to other-selves and teach/learn what it had felt during the preceding years to be of an worthwhile nature. The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self when it was in its last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.

(08-23-2021, 12:42 PM)Patrick Wrote: According to the Ra material, we all have an influence over Karma. It is not a static process that will follow its course without input.

Quote:34.4 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define karma?

Ra: I am Ra. Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable.

Quote:17.20 Questioner: How did this aggressive action against a playmate affect Jesus in his spiritual growth? Where did he go after his physical death?

Ra: I am Ra. The entity you call Jesus was galvanized by this experience and began a lifetime of seeking and searching. This entity studied first day and night in its own religious constructs which you call Judaism and was learned enough to be a rabbi, as you call the teach/learners of this particular rhythm or distortion of understanding, at a very young age.

At the age of approximately thirteen and one-half of your years, this entity left the dwelling place of its earthly family, as you would call it, and walked into many other places seeking further information. This went on sporadically until the entity was approximately twenty-five, at which time it returned to its family dwelling, and learned and practiced the art of its earthly father.

When the entity had become able to integrate or synthesize all experiences, the entity began to speak to other-selves and teach/learn what it had felt during the preceding years to be of an worthwhile nature. The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self when it was in its last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.

Ra goes as far as saying that the concepts of Karma and Forgiveness are different sides of the same coin.

Basically meaning that Karma is due to a lack of forgiveness.

It ensures that eventually all entities will learn to forgive. Otherwise we continue to suffer our karma until we have learned.

(08-23-2021, 01:28 PM)Patrick Wrote: Yes and more to the point Margan, there are no sides in science.

(At least, there should not be: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2719747/)