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RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Diana - 05-02-2021 (05-02-2021, 09:10 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "I'm curious what your stance is. Didn't you say somewhere that you got vaccinated?" Yes, your posts are clear. I was confused because I didn't realize you were referring to childhood vaccines. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Ymarsakar - 05-02-2021 I call them psionic sleepers or blockers from my pov. To avoid social media purging, i use waxine cause it is funny liie maxine or francine. This is why people cannot understand lemuria or atlantis unless they lived it. When end times madness happens, the harvest, things get stranger and stranger. This roller coaster does not end. It ascends. Each individual has to make their own decisions in this test. This is not about what society or family thinks. Or mandatory health policies. Other people not taking this test cannot interfere although some have tried. It will not work. This is a divine power powered test, not some kind of human gig. It will go on and on and on until it ascends or ends. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Aion - 05-02-2021 (05-02-2021, 08:26 AM)Patrick Wrote:(05-02-2021, 01:00 AM)Diana Wrote: ...But there was nothing there that speaks to the idea that I would be harmful to others if I don't get vaccinated... It is really going to be different in any community. My Grandma was telling me yesterday about the tiny community she used to live in and hearing from friends and they have been pretty hardcore. One lady was basically coerced in to getting her vaccine because without it she was barred access to most public spaces (which are pretty commonly used in small towns). Then one day her friends basically 'intervened' and told her she was getting it and had set up the appointment FOR her. It was then done by the same nurse who she had seen for years, who knew her medical history and that she didn't want to do it. Within a couple days one of her legs swelled up severely and painfully, almost twice the size at the ankle and which has only started to go down. On the flipside, I have plenty of younger friends who have already gotten their shots and haven't had any major issues. The couple cases close to me with adverse affects have all been in older folk. However, I think that people have the right to make the choice. You don't really have that if you are forced in to it by your 'community'. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Ymarsakar - 05-02-2021 Some still remember the forced sterilization and eugenics done in the usa. Forced wax is pretty similar. Esp given the wax is not a medical wax but an experimental gene altering treatment under nearly zero liab in us. The world was supposed to have fixed this in the nuremburg trials. Mengeles experimentation on involuntary humans was and is a war crime. It shows how easy humanity is in proclaiming high ethics but very bad at following base guidelines. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - ausgezeichtnetspieler - 05-02-2021 (05-02-2021, 02:23 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Some still remember the forced sterilization and eugenics done in the usa. Forced wax is pretty similar. It will be interesting to see who gets arrested and charged with crimes against humanity for violation of the Nuremburg Code RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Ymarsakar - 05-02-2021 A lot of interesting things will happen soon enough, far more than humanity can imagine at this stage of the game. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - AnthroHeart - 05-03-2021 Here are a lot of cited sources of why not to take the vaccine: https://nojabforme.info/ RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - confusedseeker - 05-03-2021 I'm hearing the term "antivaxxer" being used a lot. This is a propaganda tool. Many of us are NOT against the vax, go ahead and take it if you want to take it, I will not stop you. I choose not to take it myself, that is all. I am NOT Anti-vaccine. If it makes you feel better about your future, TAKE IT. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 05-03-2021 (05-03-2021, 02:23 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: Here are a lot of cited sources of why not to take the vaccine: You know when people complain that too many deaths are attributed to Covid19 because of the way the statistics are misused ? Well that site is doing the same with any deaths happening after vaccination. I have spotted other dubious tactics as well. If I may link to another site in the spirit of countering. Because vaccine hesitancy is not without risk either and history has something to say about it. https://www.macleans.ca/society/health/when-the-plague-won-a-history-of-vaccine-hesitancy/ RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Ymarsakar - 05-03-2021 "You know when people complain that too many deaths are attributed to Covid19 because of the way the statistics are misused ? Well that site is doing the same with any deaths happening after vaccination. I have spotted other dubious tactics as well." And was anyone fired or held accountable for "too many deaths" attributed to Covid 19 at 35k a death and 13k a Covid death? So when someone gets injured or in a car accident, their death is ruled as Covid 19 because this lets the hospitals make more money on an individual level and group level. When someone dies X time after getting the shot, this is not a direct causation but it is a direct correlation. An even stronger correlation than the one humanity uses to justify virus=disease=cause of. "Because vaccine hesitancy is not without risk either and history has something to say about it." mRNA technology has never been used in this "his story" Patrick. People keep using the same word as if to cloud that they are talking about different things. They cannot define it or will not, same with love and other complicated terms. What is a waxine and which Confederation source has ever said this is a good thing for the mind body spirit complex? https://twitter.com/robinmonotti2/status/1387822081191124994?s=20 ****Now the true India/Lemurian remnant bloodlines are bringing out the fire of rebellion and resistance. The reason Indian villagers are chasing the jabbers out is that there was no Covid before the jab rollouts in other villages, & their medicine is far superior to the jabs, and MUCH safer:********** Alternative treatments and Ayurvedic has been mentioned sometimes as healing modalities by Confederation sources. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Aion - 05-03-2021 It's worth noting there are also a few different vaccines out and about, and they're not all mRNA based. The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are the ones based on mRNA and the Astra-Zeneca and Johnson & Johnson ones are based on traditional vaccines. Interestingly enough, it's the latter two that have drawn the most publicity recently because of the small possibility of bloodclots. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - confusedseeker - 05-03-2021 BCG vaccine should be getting approval soon. Been used for a century. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 05-03-2021 (05-03-2021, 05:48 PM)confusedseeker Wrote: BCG vaccine should be getting approval soon. Been used for a century. Is that an alternative you would be willing to take ? RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Relax - 05-03-2021 (05-02-2021, 04:30 AM)Black Dragon Wrote:(05-02-2021, 03:24 AM)Relax Wrote:(05-01-2021, 01:23 PM)Black Dragon Wrote:(04-30-2021, 08:57 PM)Relax Wrote:I'm going to take some time to respond here. This thread is getting detuned again. We went a good long span of time where opposing views were openly conversing and trading information and ideas, respectfully. The most recent detune before that was somebody on the "other side" or "anti vax" side. That time, I was the one who got a bit irate with it and spoke my mind.(04-30-2021, 06:59 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: "It’s incredible egoism to pontificate for this many pages about theories that deny eye witness reports." Quote:Your perceptions are couched in a certain moral sincerity. I feel you are a decent person. However, I find them to be misguided, and fixated on lower paradigms like identity politics rather than true unity consciousness. This is so patronising - infantalising of me. Identity politics are ABOUT division that already exists, "unity consciousness" is a privileged concept to people who live with the fear of being pulled over by police and ending up dead for a broken tail light. Also - please reconsider paternalistic (actually ANY) 'assessments' of me in future Quote:What do you really know about the egregore here? A LOT Quote:Do you even know who you are talking to, who is on this site? Do you? (Do we have to now compare the length of our involvements with B4th?) [redacted] Quote:There are people like that in corporations, in governments, etc. Not here. Seriously? WOW Quote:The people on a forum like this, biologically white male or otherwise, are not of the same mindset or culture at all. 0__0 Some are - some aren't. Quote:Why even apply those terms? They apply - especially in an unconscious way and have been observed to apply and widely discussed re women on B4th fairly recently. Quote:It's divisive. It's not divisive to point out divisions. The division/s exist, worldwide and aren't suddenly magically dissipated when people contribute their ideas here. Quote:We are aware what goes on on a 3d level, with these social justice conflicts. We at this point don't have to identify with those paradigms that unenlightened people are entrenched in and embattled over. We are not obligated to identify with 3d racial identity politics and 3d systems of stupidity and division. This is spoken exactly like a privileged person. Of course if you're not affected by "3d racial identity politics and 3d systems of stupidity and division" you have no need to "identify with" them! (duh?!) You also say: "that unenlightened people are entrenched in and embattled over" WOW - so if I'm stalked and raped by an abusive man and advocate for domestic violence support services and societal change I'm "unenlightened"? NB: better that you don't speak for others views on B4th on this - as you haven't asked their permission. (Although - the predominant male egregore of B4th has nearly always been resistant to mention of these issues.) Quote:Second off, how many people you talk to on here do you even assume are, biologically speaking white males? Are you sure some of the posters and members here might not be, I don't know...African, of Asian descent, Aboriginal descent, and other? It's long been known that the predominant membership is Caucasian male on B4th - again - there have been threads written about this. Quote:Are you really aware of how active and well respected our female members are, how well represented on the CSS and how strongly their energies contribute to the egregore? Please refer to Stepping Feet and Austin and PARTICULARLY Jade's recent contributions to threads on B4th. This may be changing now - but was long overdue and the ratio is still skewed to male voices. Again, you can't speak to respect for women here when there are numerous misogynist and sexist posts up throughout B4th for all to see. Quote:You would be surprised at just the handful of people I talk to in PMs here, as far as 3d racial diversity. Over 5 years via PM I've had conversations with many women and non white members expressing deep dissatisfaction at the dominant white male egregore of B4th. THAT has been my experience. Quote:Do you even know who you are talking to, do you even know the egregore here, or do you just speculate based on some personal annoyances you had years ago? Yes. Yes. And - my experiences on B4th in times past aren't yours to comment on. Quote:Do you think these people I talk to, who are not "white males", do you think they complain? Feel stifled? Feel b4 is a "white male egregore"? Quite possibly - the ones I talk to have felt that way. Quote:I don't know your situation and will not make a call on you personally or your identity...it's just something I see white males often being the ones to rant about white males and white maleness.LOL I'm NOT a white male! Quote:You are asking us to see things in a very divisive, non unity conscious manner. NOPE. I'm pointing out what's still occurring world wide and naturally occurs here as well. There's been recent discussion of it as I mentioned. Women on the CCS is hopeful, but only a start. Quote:To dumb down our world view in both green and blue ray and look at the world through more cynical standards like mainstream society. NOPE. This is the opposite of my wishes. Quote:It's not that we are ignorant to these 3d struggles and racial issues, it's that we are aware of them and transcended the need to identify with perceived "sides" or identity politics. Sorry - but if I was a person more marginalised (say - female Aboriginal friends of mine) - you'd be completely schooled about the ignorance/naivety in that sentence ! Quote:That is what I mean when I say that this mindset is something you'd see on a college campus, rather than a genuine community of greater seeking. Don't speak down to me like this. I'm 59 - I don't operate via 'identity politics', I don't think like most people I know - I don't answer to you. You've responded as I expected - as most defensive men respond (albeit couched in metaphysical 'unity' spiel). RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - confusedseeker - 05-04-2021 (05-03-2021, 06:28 PM)Patrick Wrote:(05-03-2021, 05:48 PM)confusedseeker Wrote: BCG vaccine should be getting approval soon. Been used for a century. I would definitely consider it. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Black Dragon - 05-04-2021 removed, to make space for peace and reflection instead of more crap. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Relax - 05-04-2021 (05-04-2021, 03:42 AM)Black Dragon Wrote: Everyone, just continue to talk around the elephant in the room and have a nice discussion. Ignore it and it might go away. You know, grassroots effort when leadership fails. I tried rebutting and reporting the prejudiced and low vibration posts, but mine got deleted for being overly harsh, while the original person's racist and ageist crock of college campus bile was left up. I guess I'll just be forced to be the "bigger man", despite myself. You all see it though, right? See it for what it really is? BD - I haven't reported your posts replying to me and don't want them to be to be removed - when I looked for them just now - they're still there. At least once I've said 'let's leave this be'. Let's do that now (?) - these recent interactions between you and me, and Y and me, are off the topic of this thread. I'm now leaving this thread. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Black Dragon - 05-04-2021 (05-04-2021, 05:10 AM)Relax Wrote:(05-04-2021, 03:42 AM)Black Dragon Wrote: Everyone, just continue to talk around the elephant in the room and have a nice discussion. Ignore it and it might go away. You know, grassroots effort when leadership fails. I tried rebutting and reporting the prejudiced and low vibration posts, but mine got deleted for being overly harsh, while the original person's racist and ageist crock of college campus bile was left up. I guess I'll just be forced to be the "bigger man", despite myself. You all see it though, right? See it for what it really is? I'm going to step back and center as well. This is just crap that's beneath all of us. It's beneath our ideals and who we really are. I'm not going to point fingers, just say I wish it were different. I'm sorry for anything construed as personal. To me personal is good. Orange ray is easy. It's this societal bullshit that gets in the way of us loving one another without prejudice and I hate it. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Aion - 05-04-2021 Y'know we only have so many tools as humans for bridging our hearts together, and words are one of most powerful available for us. I think it's important for everyone to consider carefully and deeply the impactful power of their words. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Aion - 05-04-2021 (05-04-2021, 02:36 AM)confusedseeker Wrote:(05-03-2021, 06:28 PM)Patrick Wrote:(05-03-2021, 05:48 PM)confusedseeker Wrote: BCG vaccine should be getting approval soon. Been used for a century. I've never heard of that approach before, I guess the idea is that the BCG offers a sort of generalized protection? RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - LeiwoUnion - 05-04-2021 This was the most 3D (and 2D?) ID 'conversation' I've witnessed on this forum. It provides interesting contrast and a chance for some contemplation. Relax, what if one of your (for example) marginalized friends would say that their current experiences here were buought up by past experiences? Or that they have discussed the meaning of these experiences with their innate guidance system and begin to show acceptance, compassion and forgiveness even towards the dreaded white male? Now that would be empowerment. These are queries grown out of interest. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Aion - 05-04-2021 (05-04-2021, 05:30 AM)LeiwoUnion Wrote: This was the most 3D (and 2D?) ID 'conversation' I've witnessed on this forum. It provides interesting contrast and a chance for some contemplation. I would kindly ask if you wish to discuss this further that you do so in PM (or a new or relevant thread), I think this thread has spent enough time off the rails. These kinds of interactions are certainly rich with catalyst, but we also have to respect the OP. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - LeiwoUnion - 05-04-2021 (05-04-2021, 05:34 AM)Aion Wrote:(05-04-2021, 05:30 AM)LeiwoUnion Wrote: This was the most 3D (and 2D?) ID 'conversation' I've witnessed on this forum. It provides interesting contrast and a chance for some contemplation. I agree, and I apologize. Slight confusion got the better of me. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - David_1 - 05-04-2021 One of the hallmarks of totalitarian governments is the criminalization of dissent. Any questioning of “emergency measures” is labeled as “extremism.” RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Ymarsakar - 05-04-2021 Yes Aion, that would be useful "I would kindly ask if you wish to discuss this further that you do so in PM (or a new or relevant thread), I think this thread has spent enough time off the rails." The Law of One was not given to humanity via a trinity group, for people to argue over. It's a manual to do the work, a set of instructions. Practice what is preached. It is pretty simple. This is an open book test after all. Quote:The Confederation of Planets in the Service of the Infinite Creator has only one important statement. That statement, my friends, as you know, is “All things, all of life, all of the creation is part of one original thought.”-Session 1 https://www.lawofone.info/s/1 Quote:Questioner: It seems members of the Confederation have a specific purpose. Is this true with you, and if so, what is your purpose? I too have seen the solutions to paradoxes and complexities simplified. That is not my nature but through the experience of walking this Earth and seeing the faces of humanity. I will continue this work until the cycle is appropriately ended, although that story might extend millions or billions of years into the future in linear time. It had better be interesting and fun, like Japanese stuff, or else I will be disappointed and bored. Quote:Questioner: Why is there no protection at the floor or bottom of the banishing ritual, and should there be? Quote:72.13 Questioner: We have included “Shin” in the banishing ritual, “Yod Heh Vau Heh” to make it “Yod Heh Shin Vau Heh.” Is this helpful? Quote:72.8 Questioner: The negatively oriented entities who contact us and others on this planet are limited by the first distortion. They have obviously been limited by the banishing ritual just performed. Could you describe, with respect to free will, how they limit themselves in order to work within the first distortion and how the banishing ritual itself works? Quote:73.2 Questioner: Has the banishing ritual that we have performed been helpful for this contact? Quote:76.4 Questioner: Has our use of the Banishing Ritual of the Lesser Pentagram been of any value and what is its effect? Take note, that I am not using a text edited by humans, to proclaim a universal policy. These are just iamraw's answers to a specific question, which does not mean it applies to everyone or anything in time und space. Quote:45.3 Questioner: Can you tell me if a large percentage of the Wanderers here now are those of Ra? It's about time we got this sixth grade party started. For those wondering what these mega threads are about, in essence and fate, they are just sort of "Calls to service". Those reading these threads about conspiracies, counter conspiracies, etc... know this, these are a kind of Quest and job board for your SMC/Avatar to choose from. This is the entire Earth calling for help. Unlike normal humans who feel they are powerless in these End Times, do not presume that everyone has this fate and chose to incarnate to experience the same fate of helplessness. If you understand, then get to it. If you don't understand, ignore it. If you don't understand but want to understand, please stand by. Quote:45.11 Questioner: Can you tell me the purpose or philosophy behind the fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-density positive [bang outside] and negative social memory complexes? [Loud rapping at the door.] Quote:1.10 Questioner: Another question. Is it possible to create any acceleration of understanding [in] other entities [or are] all efforts… efforts by the individual on himself accelerating his understanding? In other words, if an individual tries to act as a catalyst in general to increase the awareness of planetary consciousness, is he doing nothing but acting upon himself or is it possible [inaudible]? Quote:84.4 Questioner: The instrument asked the following question: Ra has implied that the instrument is on a path of martyrdom, but since all die are we not all martyr to something? When, if ever, does martyrdom partake of wisdom? Those who die in this war of light and darkness, what humanity calls 2020 and 2021 and on, are martyrs in my eyes. I treat them as such. This specifically does not include those getting their karmic boomerangs however. That's just justice. Humanity is not in control. Devils are not in control. Angels are not in control of events on Earth. Quote:92.3 Questioner: We have been attempting to figure out how to provide the instrument with the swirling water, which we hope to do very soon. Is there any other thing that we can do to improve this situation? Quote:92.9 Questioner: I would like to attempt an analogy of the first archetype, in that when a baby is first born and enters this density of experience, I am assuming then that the Matrix is new and undistorted, veiled from the Potentiator and ready for that which is to be experienced: the incarnation. Is this correct?-a comment on the insertion, this is much akin to the First Breath used to calculate astrological charts in Vedic sidereal astrology. This is the fate/predestined quest system. Much of what humanity is choosing is due to the specific lessons (of the heart) and the nature of the choice required to access those realms. Thus martyrs will pop up, from those who choose the wax or not the wax, those who choose war or peace. I wonder for those still focused on materialistic world views of nations and politics, do any of you truly understand the power you are witnessing being exercised in 2020 and 2021? Because if you are still in need of "more", then I will provide "more". EDIT Additions: Addendums on martyrdom. Quote:44.1 Questioner: The instrument had some question as to her vitality. We were having a hard time appraising it. Is it possible for you to comment on this? More on the plight of humans attempting to activate their chakras via jobs like political leadership roles. Quote:35.1 Questioner: [I would] like to say that we consider this a great privilege to be doing this work and hope that we are going to question [in a] direction that will be of value to the readers of this material. This session, I thought that possibly inspecting the effect on the rays of different well-known figures in our history might be help in understanding how the catalyst of the illusion creates spiritual growth. I was making a list here and the first I thought we might possibly hit the high points on as to the effect of catalyst of the individual’s working life would be the one we know as Franklin D. Roosevelt. Could you say something about that entity?-that opening of bellicose action would be the betrayal for military efficacy, of Admiral Kimmel and allowing Pearl Harbor to be vulnerable while displacing blame to the admiral that was not given appropriate intel. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 05-04-2021 I received my first dose of AstraZeneca. So far all is well. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Minyatur - 05-04-2021 (05-04-2021, 12:43 PM)Patrick Wrote: I received my first dose of AstraZeneca. So far all is well. Is that your talking, or is it the vaccine promoting itself? RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 05-04-2021 (05-04-2021, 12:48 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(05-04-2021, 12:43 PM)Patrick Wrote: I received my first dose of AstraZeneca. So far all is well. It will be hard for you guys to find out ! But this one is not mRNA, so maybe it does not come with the free lifetime 5G connection. I'll have to continue paying for internet access it seems... RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - flofrog - 05-04-2021 Best wishes to everyone by the way for this new day. I kind of find you all pretty courageous. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Ymarsakar - 05-04-2021 "It will be hard for you guys to find out !" I will know pretty immediately. |