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RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - flofrog - 01-13-2021 (01-13-2021, 01:56 PM)Patrick Wrote: In my opinion, we sadly cannot get a good picture for ourselves by reading the material provided either by those in favor or not in favor of vaccines. The homework has to be done from scratch by going at the source for all of it. Which of course is not practical because most of the info is paywalled (which is the sort of thing I wish we would collectively focus on fixing). I very much agree with that. I like the concept itself of the vaccine. I am a big user of homeopathy which uses that concept. I will take the vaccine not so much for my own health but because I don't much like the idea I could infect unknowingly someone. Even though it is an ugly virus, as I have seen unfortunately on three friends, I am not living in fear of it because either you will catch it or you won't, so fear is useless, just being careful for others, wearing a little mask and its dandy. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - AnthroHeart - 01-13-2021 If the vaccine works, why do they have this? RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 01-13-2021 Because it takes a little while before the protection reaches its full potential. Here in my city, there are 7 persons which received the vaccine a week ago and that tested positive yesterday. It is also not clear if you can still be infected enough to transmit the virus while still having a good enough protection for yourself. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Alexis - 01-14-2021 I used to be afraid, but now I am curious as how this timeline will play out. How do you want it to play out? If you are feeding into fear based/enslavement ideas, the universe is going to co-create that reality. I don't identify with anti-vax, but also not planning to get this vaccine. I want to be responsible for my health, not place the responsibility on someone else. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - AnthroHeart - 01-14-2021 Not going to take the vaccine, but doing work on transmuting it into euphoria to help awaken people. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - AnthroHeart - 01-14-2021 (01-13-2021, 07:35 PM)Patrick Wrote: Because it takes a little while before the protection reaches its full potential. Here in my city, there are 7 persons which received the vaccine a week ago and that tested positive yesterday. It is also not clear if you can still be infected enough to transmit the virus while still having a good enough protection for yourself. Ok, why don't they say that after a month after getting the vaccine, you don't have to wear masks anymore? Why not give a timeframe? They assume forever or something. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 12:33 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote:(01-13-2021, 07:35 PM)Patrick Wrote: Because it takes a little while before the protection reaches its full potential. Here in my city, there are 7 persons which received the vaccine a week ago and that tested positive yesterday. It is also not clear if you can still be infected enough to transmit the virus while still having a good enough protection for yourself. They speak to the population as if we were children. They don't want to confuse people with future directives in advance. So they only say that for now: "please don't stop doing these other things". Of course once a threshold of vaccinated people is reached, probably around the end of spring here in Quebec, you'll see them starting to ease on those directives. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - AnthroHeart - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 12:44 PM)Patrick Wrote:(01-14-2021, 12:33 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote:(01-13-2021, 07:35 PM)Patrick Wrote: Because it takes a little while before the protection reaches its full potential. Here in my city, there are 7 persons which received the vaccine a week ago and that tested positive yesterday. It is also not clear if you can still be infected enough to transmit the virus while still having a good enough protection for yourself. I'm not going to hold my breath. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 12:54 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: ...I'm not going to hold my breath. Good thing too ! Breathing properly is important. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Agua - 01-14-2021 removed RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 01-14-2021 I would strongly oppose mandatory vaccination. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Agua - 01-14-2021 removed RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Black Dragon - 01-14-2021 Can't trust big pharma, can't trust the alt-right narrative either, so I'm undecided because it all just looks like bad choices with no good choices(so the usual SNAFU of Earth life but magnified a lot). There's a disease that sucks and a vaccine that can potentially suck as bad or worse. There's nobody to fully trust to get the facts straight, and a lot of opinions. Can't trust in any ET intervention either, because to all of them we are just cattle or an interesting ant farm experiment, even the ones that claim to be STO.. So what, really, are our options besides just s***? RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 01-14-2021 You certainly hold a grim view about our ET friends. The way I see it, we have a couple more months to go with all this drama and then we can go back to working on the old drama. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - ada - 01-14-2021 I don't understand how the side effects of the vaccine can be any worse than the virus itself, especially if your body hadn't built any antibodies before getting sick. The most side effects from the vaccine which I've read were things like dizziness/muscle pain/fatigue and in very minor cases allergic reactions. Which again, were nowhere near what the virus itself does. I'd be more than glad to hear other's knowledge regarding this, perhaps I'm quite misinformed. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Diana - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 04:39 PM)ada Wrote: I don't understand how the side effects of the vaccine can be any worse than the virus itself, especially if your body hadn't built any antibodies before getting sick. I'm not trying to promote any side of things, but to answer your question, a virus is naturally occurring (assuming the virus hasn't been tampered with such as having been weaponized). A vaccine is a processed mixture of things (perhaps stabilizers, preservatives, etc.) and therefore is not naturally occurring, so the body will deal differently with it than it would with something straight from nature. In addition, and I don't know if the patent process is involved with the COVID vaccine, in order for pharmaceutical companies to patent they must add something to a naturally occurring substance. You can't patent a plant, but you can patent a plant derivative with other proprietary ingredients added. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - ada - 01-14-2021 How about polio or tetanus or hepatitis, measles, how would your body deal with it naturally without a vaccine? RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Diana - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 05:49 PM)ada Wrote: How about polio or tetanus or hepatitis, measles, how would your body deal with it naturally without a vaccine? I’m not arguing the merits of a vaccine, just answering the question of what is the difference between a vaccine and a virus in terms of possible side effects. It isn’t just a matter of the immune system when unnatural substances are introduced into the body. We are a large population of species occupying a planet whose ecosystems are compromised because of us. Things are not in balance. I suppose it makes sense to try and contain the damage artificially. Of course science can be a wonderful thing. And I would not want to go backwards. Hopefully we move forward toward a world in which all life is respected and we regain balance with the whole planet. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Agua - 01-14-2021 removed RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Black Dragon - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 06:34 PM)Agua Wrote: Among the side-effects that some scientists or medical professionals (not sure about the exact english term) fear are: Just what I was afraid of. Maybe they really do want to kill us and make us sick and lame. Just like usual in this life, no good choice, just two evils. Don't take it and me and my family could get f***** by the virus. Take and and we could get f***** by the vaccine. So where is the good in all of this? So many innocent people have already suffered from this virus, and many more will-and potentially many more from the vaccine, which is supposed to help? Where is the good in the creator, and where is the good in the worthless ET "guardians" that let this happen? Sometimes to me this universe looks like a loveless machine and I wish I could rip apart the chicken wire and gears and piss on them until they rust to dust. I know that's messed up, but it is what it is and it is how I sometimes feel when I see all the pointless suffering and cruelty and nothing standing in its way. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Agua - 01-14-2021 removed RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - moyal - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 04:39 PM)ada Wrote: I don't understand how the side effects of the vaccine can be any worse than the virus itself, especially if your body hadn't built any antibodies before getting sick. The latest Cassiopaea Session has this: Quote:[...] RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - AnthroHeart - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 05:49 PM)ada Wrote: How about polio or tetanus or hepatitis, measles, how would your body deal with it naturally without a vaccine? Watch this. He explains why polio was healed (better sanitation, lower population density) and not with the vaccine. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 01-14-2021 Moyal, I'm sorry to say that your quoted material felt very heavy to me. You really resonate positively with that sort of thing? RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Patrick - 01-14-2021 I just feel that we are protected by our ET friends. That we are protected by love. That without their help the virus would be much worst. I harbour great hope within my heart. This catalyst is indeed great but we can come out of it a better world if we wanted to. It's not just an opportunity for the Elites, it is also an opportunity to change our system for the better. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Glow - 01-14-2021 (01-14-2021, 08:07 PM)moyal Wrote:Just so you understand MRNA is created BY DNA.(01-14-2021, 04:39 PM)ada Wrote: I don't understand how the side effects of the vaccine can be any worse than the virus itself, especially if your body hadn't built any antibodies before getting sick. It doesn’t work the other way around, and anyone who say it does obviously has zero understanding of science. MRNA cannot change DNA. MRNA is used so actual virus DNA doesn’t have to be introduced. The protien the virus produces is introduced and triggers the immune system to react vs actual introduction of virus DNA RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - ada - 01-14-2021 Every time I read anything from the cass material, it's like the questioner is asking a question with doubt or fearful idea, they just go ahead and feed into that doubt. Sorry for sidetracking. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - Black Dragon - 01-15-2021 I avoid the cass material. I've got enough doom and gloom dealing with my own shadow. I do not view that source as a positive and forthright source of information. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - meadow-foreigner - 01-15-2021 Don't be naïve. Control and coercion is the motto of the STS hierarchy. What better way to implement this than a forced, imposed social measure? What better way to manipulate directly one's behavior than from the inside? Has history not told you anything? Ever heard of the Greek and Troy war? However, and this is the amusing part, regardless of either human and/or 4D interventions to exert and/or implement forced control upon the 3D masses: There's this basic premise of The Creation: to experience and know itself at the fullest level. Whatever interposes in this path to The Creation will inevitably and inexorably be cast aside. It doesn't matter the technology used, there will always be a counter-movement from The Creation itself — not to mention the STO forces — to either nullify or to use the STS manipulations to the benefit of The Creation as a Whole; after all, All Is One. In other words: be wise, but also be careful; and this implies being aware of what's going on, not just passively trusting in the process without the adequate effort and contribution to this transition process. RE: Are you going to take the vaccine? - ada - 01-15-2021 I'm actually willing to ask the opposing questions. Who are these supposedly "Elite", are they people just like you and me? How and what exactly are they trying to implement? Do we currently have such technological means to hide it in a vaccine? Who is actually working on the vaccine? Are they normal people like you and me? Why are they trying to control us, or to what do they want to control us in to? What exactly do they want to gain that isn't already in their hands? Where are they? Are there representatives from the same "controlling agenda group"? Are they stationed in every country and scheme together? How? It's possible to over-complicate these things with our own imagination and metaphysical knowledge, but most humans at the top of the hierarchy are quite consciously unaware and indulged with material power. They don't even get along. What do I supposedly understand from the metaphysical that connects to our physical? Well first and foremost, earth is in a process, meaning, the people are still in a process. Therefore such metaphysical STS hierarchy cannot exist. Earth is protected and quarantined, meaning no outside sources can actively manipulate the populace thought to a large degree. Earth is already vibrating in 4th density STO, that means love, that means service, that means truth, that means acceptance. I understand and I value what we as spiritual seeks do when times are norm, but what is happening right now is not the norm. So it is now that we should focus on trust and not doubt, on love and not fear, on good people and not the "elite". |