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Technology catalyzing change - turtledude23 - 11-20-2010
Quote:"It’s technology, not business or government, that’s the real driving force behind large-scale societal shifts." - Sean Parker in Vanity Fair (October 2010)
Do you agree with this quote?
I do, the internet being the obvious example. Other major leaps in technology like the printing press, engines, telephones, and electricity brought big changes. For thousands of years technology had little progress, and most countries had feudal societies with monarchs (a fancy word for dictator). As technology advanced and gave more power to individuals, the government lost power and in most cases become more fair. I say most cases because of China, but technology and a freer market is pushing them towards more civil liberties and freer press.
This leads me to conclude to that while fighting for freedom in traditional ways like journalism does help society, I think the best thing I could do for the world is create new technology that brings out the good in people, connects people, challenges old ways of thinking, educates, inspires, etc. I have a project in mind, if any programmers or server/DB admins want to help out.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - unity100 - 11-20-2010
not really.
technology doesnt shift society. it only changes the way the society manifests itself.
if the society has a certain x characteristic, with technology that particular characteristic still manifests in that technological aspect of life, as having nature x.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - turtledude23 - 11-20-2010
I think that's what the quote meant, when people talk about society they're usually referring to the parts of it that can be changed.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Experience You - 11-20-2010
I could not agree more, technology levels are in a way a gauge of how allowing we are of more power and abundance,ways to be and manifest, this can be used in a negative or positive way but in its core it is related to more awareness of reality and it's ways.
Technology is nothing more then the ability to better relate(relationships) to ourselves and it's more pure form is light/thought.
I can't help you in your quest because this is not of my direct interest in the way you are speaking but i suggest http://spacecollective.org/recent
I am sure you will find like minded beings for your intentions.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - LsavedSmeD - 11-21-2010
(11-20-2010, 06:00 PM)unity100 Wrote: not really.
technology doesnt shift society. it only changes the way the society manifests itself.
if the society has a certain x characteristic, with technology that particular characteristic still manifests in that technological aspect of life, as having nature x.
Excellent.
I was thinking the same thing.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - zenmaster - 11-21-2010
We create tools to answer a question. Don't tell me "there is no such thing as a stupid question".
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Experience You - 11-21-2010
Thoughts are tools too, there is the higher form of technology without the masks we have now, one day will recognize again. (trough light and as light/vibrations and patterns)
Thats all we are right now, patterns of light, all of our reality is that.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Seeking One - 11-22-2010
Hey TD23,
I'd love to hear more about what system you are considering building. My brain has been iterating in a similar area for quite some time, and even spent 6+ months doing some serious biz and tech research.
I switched a few months ago to beening more of the mind to just jump in and start creating, but just recently my work life has kicked into high gear and consumed much more of my time. (I still need to finish coding a small side project for this community)
I think we should definitely talk more offline though.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - turtledude23 - 11-22-2010
Awesome! I messaged you Seeking One.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Plenum - 10-05-2013
this is a very good video (scroll down halfway) that speaks to modern social networking and how we relate to each other as entities.
http://elitedaily.com/news/world/this-video-will-have-you-completely-rethink-how-you-conduct-yourself-online-and-in-person-video/
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Sagittarius - 10-06-2013
No matter the age the question is the same. Technology is progress of tools but how we use them is still up to us. This level of negativity we dabbled in required our seen progress in creating technology, to allow for easier circumstances to assess the self.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - zenmaster - 10-09-2013
"We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations."
What does it mean to become "overly complex"? What causes views and thought/spirit processes to become overly complex? Is it possible to become overly complex without being confused?
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Sagittarius - 10-09-2013
(10-09-2013, 08:58 PM)zenmaster Wrote: "We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations."
What does it mean to become "overly complex"? What causes views and thought/spirit processes to become overly complex? Is it possible to become overly complex without being confused?
I'd guess the inclusion of the veil causes views/spirit processes to be overly complex. Overly complex seams to me to mean faster and more voluminous thought processes or patterns.
I think so in the sense that what we are doing here and now seams to suggest we can move past the confusion but I have noticed what makes up my thoughts now is much simpler then the "confusing" thought patterns I would delve into prior.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Hototo - 10-10-2013
(10-09-2013, 08:58 PM)zenmaster Wrote: "We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations."
What does it mean to become "overly complex"? What causes views and thought/spirit processes to become overly complex? Is it possible to become overly complex without being confused?
Yes, it is.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - zenmaster - 10-10-2013
(10-10-2013, 10:31 AM)Not Sure Wrote:How so?(10-09-2013, 08:58 PM)zenmaster Wrote: "We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations."
What does it mean to become "overly complex"? What causes views and thought/spirit processes to become overly complex? Is it possible to become overly complex without being confused?
Yes, it is.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Sagittarius - 10-10-2013
(10-10-2013, 06:26 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(10-10-2013, 10:31 AM)Not Sure Wrote:How so?(10-09-2013, 08:58 PM)zenmaster Wrote: "We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations."
What does it mean to become "overly complex"? What causes views and thought/spirit processes to become overly complex? Is it possible to become overly complex without being confused?
Yes, it is.
I think a proper analogy would be that of music and musical prowess. Essentially you find congruent patterns that normalize seemingly complex compositions.
In theory you can fit an unlimited amount of single notes within a piece, rather it's the timing of those nights which creates the simplicity and order.
Edit: Meant notes but nights fits as well hehe.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - zenmaster - 10-10-2013
(10-10-2013, 09:31 PM)Sagittarius Wrote:Congruent to what?(10-10-2013, 06:26 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(10-10-2013, 10:31 AM)Not Sure Wrote:How so?(10-09-2013, 08:58 PM)zenmaster Wrote: "We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations."
What does it mean to become "overly complex"? What causes views and thought/spirit processes to become overly complex? Is it possible to become overly complex without being confused?
Yes, it is.
I think a proper analogy would be that of music and musical prowess. Essentially you find congruent patterns that normalize seemingly complex compositions.
In theory you can fit an unlimited amount of single notes within a piece, rather it's the timing of those nights which creates the simplicity and order.
Edit: Meant notes but nights fits as well hehe.
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Sagittarius - 10-10-2013
(10-10-2013, 09:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(10-10-2013, 09:31 PM)Sagittarius Wrote:Congruent to what?(10-10-2013, 06:26 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(10-10-2013, 10:31 AM)Not Sure Wrote:How so?(10-09-2013, 08:58 PM)zenmaster Wrote: "We ask your imagination to consider the relative simplicity of the mind in the earlier cycle and the less distorted, but often overly complex, views and thought/spirit processes of the same mind/body/spirit complexes after many incarnations."
What does it mean to become "overly complex"? What causes views and thought/spirit processes to become overly complex? Is it possible to become overly complex without being confused?
Yes, it is.
I think a proper analogy would be that of music and musical prowess. Essentially you find congruent patterns that normalize seemingly complex compositions.
In theory you can fit an unlimited amount of single notes within a piece, rather it's the timing of those nights which creates the simplicity and order.
Edit: Meant notes but nights fits as well hehe.
Hmmm knew you'd pick that up. I don't know. Perhaps congruities you find are signposts for future congruities until everything is seen as congruent. These would come from the stored experience of consciousness ?
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Hototo - 10-11-2013
I thought this was a pretty clear allusion to Occam's Razor
RE: Technology catalyzing change - zenmaster - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 04:44 PM)Not Sure Wrote: I thought this was a pretty clear allusion to Occam's RazorWere you going to answer the question?
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Hototo - 10-12-2013
(10-11-2013, 08:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote:Were you going to notice that I did answer the question?(10-11-2013, 04:44 PM)Not Sure Wrote: I thought this was a pretty clear allusion to Occam's RazorWere you going to answer the question?
RE: Technology catalyzing change - zenmaster - 10-12-2013
(10-12-2013, 01:54 AM)Not Sure Wrote:About the most one could expect I guess.(10-11-2013, 08:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote:Were you going to notice that I did answer the question?(10-11-2013, 04:44 PM)Not Sure Wrote: I thought this was a pretty clear allusion to Occam's RazorWere you going to answer the question?
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Hototo - 10-12-2013
(10-12-2013, 02:47 AM)zenmaster Wrote:One that expects an answer is not willing to get an answer other than what one expects.(10-12-2013, 01:54 AM)Not Sure Wrote:About the most one could expect I guess.(10-11-2013, 08:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote:Were you going to notice that I did answer the question?(10-11-2013, 04:44 PM)Not Sure Wrote: I thought this was a pretty clear allusion to Occam's RazorWere you going to answer the question?
RE: Technology catalyzing change - Sagittarius - 10-12-2013
(10-12-2013, 02:58 AM)Not Sure Wrote:(10-12-2013, 02:47 AM)zenmaster Wrote:One that expects an answer is not willing to get an answer other than what one expects.(10-12-2013, 01:54 AM)Not Sure Wrote:About the most one could expect I guess.(10-11-2013, 08:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote:Were you going to notice that I did answer the question?(10-11-2013, 04:44 PM)Not Sure Wrote: I thought this was a pretty clear allusion to Occam's RazorWere you going to answer the question?
How sure are you that your not expecting an answer ?