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Is emptiness our destiny? - earthyone - 01-29-2020
I have been studying the Material for some years now. It speaks to me. I have also been utterly inspired by Osho's teaching and it's congruence with the Material. There is however something that doesn't yet make sense to me. Osho teaches that above love there is emptiness, and that is our destiny. A very Buddhist teaching.
A follower of his, Vedanta, recently described how she met him for the first time and experienced what she likened to death. All of her cells felt like they were exploding. She saw pure emptiness in him, not a man. It changed the course of her life.
How do you view this emptiness? Is this the goal we getting closer to achieve by removing our distortions?
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - AnthroHeart - 01-29-2020
I come at it from a similar angle. I see the Quantum Field as the Source of Creation. And at a fundamental level, the Quantum Field is absolute stillness.
Everything in Creation manifests out of the Quantum Field. This field is infinite and also intelligent.
I have set it as my goal to return to absolute stillness. To become the Quantum Field once again.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - 4Dsunrise - 01-29-2020
Replace emptiness with pureness. It has a better connotation.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - Ray711 - 01-30-2020
We / the Creator are simultaneously nothing and infinity itself. I believe that some teachers' biases emphasize one aspect or the other. Those with a bias towards wisdom probably lean towards the nothingness part, whereas those who have a bias towards love lean towards the notion of the individual self being infinity / the all.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - Infinite - 01-30-2020
Quote:82.6 Questioner: That’s what I thought you might say. Am I correct in assuming that at the beginning of this octave, out of what I would call a void of space, the seeds of an infinite number of galactic systems such as the Milky Way Galaxy appeared and grew in spiral fashion simultaneously?
Ra: I am Ra. There are duple areas of potential confusion. Firstly, let us say that the basic concept is reasonably well-stated. Now we address the confusion. The nature of true simultaneity is such that, indeed, all is simultaneous. However, in your modes of perception you would perhaps more properly view the seeding of the creation as that of growth from the center or core outward. The second confusion lies in the term, ‘void’. We would substitute the noun, ‘plenum’.
It's like void of distortions.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - gramboginn - 01-30-2020
In my Wanderer story I tell you of the most magnificent golden all encompassing light that I was bathed in. I can only call it a divine glimpse of what is to come, if that is emptiness...then I want to be in that till eternity.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - meadow-foreigner - 01-30-2020
I view it precisely the opposite. Emptiness would not mean a lack of content within one's spirit - it would mean a satisfaction, a fulfillment so grand that one would cease one's movement toward a specific target, an objective; because it would have been reached, giving one this absolute fulfillment.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - unity100 - 01-30-2020
They seem to be trying to depict something else by the word 'emptiness' there...
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - earthyone - 01-30-2020
Very helpful answers, thank you all.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - Signifyz - 01-30-2020
I see the positive meaning of “emptiness” as “absence of redundant”.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - Infinite Unity - 01-30-2020
(01-29-2020, 08:56 PM)earthyone Wrote: I have been studying the Material for some years now. It speaks to me. I have also been utterly inspired by Osho's teaching and it's congruence with the Material. There is however something that doesn't yet make sense to me. Osho teaches that above love there is emptiness, and that is our destiny. A very Buddhist teaching.
A follower of his, Vedanta, recently described how she met him for the first time and experienced what she likened to death. All of her cells felt like they were exploding. She saw pure emptiness in him, not a man. It changed the course of her life.
How do you view this emptiness? Is this the goal we getting closer to achieve by removing our distortions?
I highly disagree with calling it emptiness. It's a state beyond circumstantial reference. The distortion (s), that effect other self's no longer have effect on you. Imagine coming into your true identity. Knowing you are immortal, immutable,and all that exist(s).
The factors that once drove you, no longer have bearing. Essentially how you view everything is changed. I find a lot of teachers corresponding this state as emptiness. To me it's our True Identity.
Eventually this state always finds us. The way we set all this up, is to prolongate the exploration of manyness. Do not fret, or worry. This state is unavoidable. Many things that can be viewed as malicious and malignant, is actually steps we intiated, as I said before. To prolong this state and further this/these experiences.
Find your anchor, what you enjoy andskip merrily merrily on your way. Rejoice in the power and peace of Oneness.
RE: Is emptiness our destiny? - zvonimir - 01-31-2020
(01-30-2020, 07:56 PM) pid=\272145' Wrote:Emptiness is a metaphysical term, and the followers of Zen who are
mere concerned with individual personality, identify Emptiness with "mind"
or the "Buddha-nature." ''Pointing directly at the mind" means attaining it
by the awakening of prajna-intuition, though there is really nothing to take
hold of or to attain as "mind." Mind is no-mind, and this reality is sunya empty. or void, the mind being wu (non-being) possesses no attributes about which anything can be said
Emptiness is not outside this world. Still, it has to be distinguished from relativity, which is a characteristic of the world of human beings. Not belonging_ in the category of relativity, emptiness is not at all communicable
in any ordinary logical way. It is inexpressible in words and inconceivable in thought. But because we human beings all aspire to perfect
communication, we attempt to use a medium, language, to impart our experience. Because the experience is not something intellectual which can be imparted, we are bound to fail in our attempts to communicate, for whatever communication that is at all effective, takes place only between minds that share the same experience. As a result, Zen often remains silent
and claims for special transmission outside doctrinal teaching.