Quote:"An humble messenger of the Law of One"

(12-16-2019, 11:13 PM)Loki Wrote: Evolution doesn't start from 1D but it starts from Mid-sixth D. In fact the Mid-sixth D exists before evolution starts but they do not have any experience acquired at that point. Which means Mid-sixth D (higher selves) could wait for their complexes to evolve slowly slowly undisturbed or they can enter from the side of evolution and genetically prepare better chemical bodies to speed up this evolution. This is why many Mid-sixth D had projects all over solar system trying to speed up evolution. Of course this interference ends up creating elites. And at least in the history of human race all these projects failed to become STO forcing some degree of separation between groups of people.

Ra is no different they already completed the first evolution from 1D to Mid-sixth D having acquired experiences they are talking about. As far I am concerned they could very well be our higher selves.

(12-16-2019, 11:13 PM)Loki Wrote: Evolution doesn't start from 1D but it starts from Mid-sixth D. In fact the Mid-sixth D exists before evolution starts but they do not have any experience acquired at that point. Which means Mid-sixth D (higher selves) could wait for their complexes to evolve slowly slowly undisturbed or they can enter from the side of evolution and genetically prepare better chemical bodies to speed up this evolution. This is why many Mid-sixth D had projects all over solar system trying to speed up evolution. Of course this interference ends up creating elites. And at least in the history of human race all these projects failed to become STO forcing some degree of separation between groups of people.

Ra is no different they already completed the first evolution from 1D to Mid-sixth D having acquired experiences they are talking about. As far I am concerned they could very well be our higher selves.

(12-16-2019, 11:44 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: Kaaron, do you feel part of Ra? I sure do and I miss home.

(12-17-2019, 01:35 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote: I'm not sure if Horus is a more individualized portion of Ra.
But in that other video you shared, I felt connected to Horus.
It's like his vibration felt like my own, though centered and stronger.

I'm more into feeling energy than channeling myself.

As part of Ra, I can see the beauty of Creator in even the most unpleasant things.

I feel Ra in my 3rd eye, the frontal lobes. I feel Horus much the same, also in my heart chakra.

All I can do is just hold their energy in my field and hope that helps me to ascend.

(12-16-2019, 11:32 PM)Kaaron Wrote:

(12-16-2019, 11:13 PM)Loki Wrote: Evolution doesn't start from 1D but it starts from Mid-sixth D. In fact the Mid-sixth D exists before evolution starts but they do not have any experience acquired at that point. Which means Mid-sixth D (higher selves) could wait for their complexes to evolve slowly slowly undisturbed or they can enter from the side of evolution and genetically prepare better chemical bodies to speed up this evolution. This is why many Mid-sixth D had projects all over solar system trying to speed up evolution. Of course this interference ends up creating elites. And at least in the history of human race all these projects failed to become STO forcing some degree of separation between groups of people.

Ra is no different they already completed the first evolution from 1D to Mid-sixth D having acquired experiences they are talking about. As far I am concerned they could very well be our higher selves.

So what about wanderers?
They may have reached 6D but to say they completed it, like they are only 6D, doesn't feel right to me.
If there were millions of Ra wanderers back in the 80s...how many of them do you feel will return to 6D? I know it's a dumb question...but it is designed to help us think of things in non absolutes.
What if they accidentally created an environment where the parts of themselves that were incarnate and more advanced mentally, became those who were the rulers?
The albino, blonde hair, blue eyes race was called Ra'ans. Sounds similar to Arayan to me.
I don't know if you've seen the new Dark Crystal series on Netflix...but I feel like Ra are the skeksis and the mystics.
Parts of them became the rulers. Others incarnated as the balance.
The elite parts of Ra use the Law of One to enslave.
The STO Ra choose liberation.
What one feels they all feel.
But STO Ra has the benefit of being higher in 6D so they can thwart the efforts of the lower STS selves.
All is one.

(12-17-2019, 07:45 AM)Loki Wrote:

(12-16-2019, 11:32 PM)Kaaron Wrote:

(12-16-2019, 11:13 PM)Loki Wrote: Evolution doesn't start from 1D but it starts from Mid-sixth D. In fact the Mid-sixth D exists before evolution starts but they do not have any experience acquired at that point. Which means Mid-sixth D (higher selves) could wait for their complexes to evolve slowly slowly undisturbed or they can enter from the side of evolution and genetically prepare better chemical bodies to speed up this evolution. This is why many Mid-sixth D had projects all over solar system trying to speed up evolution. Of course this interference ends up creating elites. And at least in the history of human race all these projects failed to become STO forcing some degree of separation between groups of people.

Ra is no different they already completed the first evolution from 1D to Mid-sixth D having acquired experiences they are talking about. As far I am concerned they could very well be our higher selves.

So what about wanderers?
They may have reached 6D but to say they completed it, like they are only 6D, doesn't feel right to me.
If there were millions of Ra wanderers back in the 80s...how many of them do you feel will return to 6D? I know it's a dumb question...but it is designed to help us think of things in non absolutes.
What if they accidentally created an environment where the parts of themselves that were incarnate and more advanced mentally, became those who were the rulers?
The albino, blonde hair, blue eyes race was called Ra'ans. Sounds similar to Arayan to me.
I don't know if you've seen the new Dark Crystal series on Netflix...but I feel like Ra are the skeksis and the mystics.
Parts of them became the rulers. Others incarnated as the balance.
The elite parts of Ra use the Law of One to enslave.
The STO Ra choose liberation.
What one feels they all feel.
But STO Ra has the benefit of being higher in 6D so they can thwart the efforts of the lower STS selves.
All is one.

OK let me detail a bit my understanding.

Logos creates the solar system and Mid-sixth D complexes (Higher Selves HS) which when created are already fully developed and unique.
HS complex totality at this point in conscious time consists entirely of possibilities/probabilities as no experience exists yet.
Conscious time is the absolute time which a consciousness perceives and this time exists for as long the Infinite Intelligence is conscious.

The created entities spend the next phase in that a-temporal phase Ra is talking about where the planets are formed and the playground is prepared for players. (If you build it they will come) In this phase while the planets are formed the Higher Selves (HS) just chill doing nothing.

Once everything is prepared the space/time or the evolutionary phase begins and this is the time Ra is talking about in space/time time/space. Now is the turn for HSs to start playing the game. They create complexes based on their own game plan or strategy and those complexes start evolving from 1D and trying to get back to HS which is the terminus station for those complexes. Each complex is unique but has as blueprint more or less its HS. Some can start on one planet some on other but regardless they all need to go back to HS following their own journey and their own free will.

In the beginning of space/time solar system is in 1D and HSs cannot do much beside genetic engineering intended to speed up the 1-2D evolutionary process. This genetic engineering despite speeding up evolution also creates separation and as always cutting corners results in some level of social discomfort. I believe that entries evolving freely will be less likely to carry the aggressive nature to 3D level than the ones which have evolution sped up by genetic engineering enhancements.
Anyways complex totality gains very little memories during 1-2D phase and continues to be mostly possibilities/probabilities.

Once HSs have a complex at least evolved at 3D phase the real experiencing game begins. In fact this 3D phase is, I believe, the best chapter of evolution and this is why HSs advise their complexes to go back to 3D as wanderers even after they graduated out of it. I guess the best memories of the complex totality are acquired  through 3D experiences.
While their complexes are evolving from 1 to 6D the HSs "are waiting" in conscious time terms in Mid-sixth D while the game unfolds.

Once all complexes of a HSs finally evolve merging back in them the space/time phase of HSs existence is passed and all its left is for the HSs to return to Creator. This is the mid-sixth to seventh phase. The matter do not exist anymore for those HSs at this point and they are independent consciousnesses with a light bodies. Their complex totality is almost full of memories of past experiences and there are very few probabilities/possibilities left at that point.  

In the light of this explanation "who is what and why is irrelevant". It is all a game of experiencing. Having fun is the purpose and despite the hardship of some experiences looking back from HS point of view is worth it.

(12-21-2019, 03:14 AM)Kaaron Wrote: Maybe there are more factors in play?
Some things were pointed out to me about avians, felines n reptiles.
I've been thinking about the concept of other beings using our planet as a means of learning the compassion, they may have lost...in their star system, or universe.

(12-23-2019, 02:09 PM)Loki Wrote: I believe Ra belongs to a strong class of higher selves who created civilizations on all suitable planets of our Solar system.
Form Ra's material I believe that Venus complexes completed already their trip back higher selves and they cannot be wanderers anymore. There are clearly Ra wanderers which are currently on Earth and they might have originated on Mars or Maldek. There are also Earth originated complexes which might be at 2D and 3D level which are also belonging to higher selves that created Ra.

(12-23-2019, 02:09 PM)Loki Wrote: I believe humans capacity for compassion was somewhat short circuited by the need of producing quick bodies for 3D experience in order to accommodate Maldek, and especially Mars entities. Most of Mars entities though it seems that evolved beyond 3D level at this point. This process of genetic acceleration caused some of the violent characteristics specific to early 2D species from Earth to be preserved in 3D bodies besides the Mars DNA.

If Earth species would have had time to progress at normal speed through 2D, most of violent characteristics related to yellow chemical bodies would have been eliminated and the capacity for compassion would have been at Venus entities level.  

I believe Ra belongs to a strong class of higher selves who created civilizations on all suitable planets of our Solar system.
From Ra's material I believe that Venus complexes completed already their trip back to higher selves and they cannot be wanderers anymore. There are clearly Ra wanderers which are currently on Earth and they might have originated on Mars or Maldek. There are also Earth originated complexes which might be at 2D and 3D level which are also belonging to higher selves that created Ra.

As you can see there is a good reason for Ra to help the development of Earth entities as we might all be related and belonging to the same higher selves created by the Sun before the space/time started. I believe Ra will continue to help the 3D entities from Earth on the new planet they will go while Earth become 4D, because I think current 2D and 3D from Earth are Ra's little brothers and sisters and they belong to the same class of higher selves.

In a way the violent nature of human yellow bodies might have be a mater of luck. If Mars conditions for life would have lasted then the Earth entities would have evolved harmoniously from 2 to 3 density and most of the violent characteristics of the yellow bodies would have been eliminated by natural selection.

Quote:I believe humans capacity for compassion was somewhat short circuited by the need of producing quick bodies for 3D experience in order to accommodate Maldek, and especially Mars entities. Most of Mars entities though it seems that evolved beyond 3D level at this point. This process of genetic acceleration caused some of the violent characteristics specific to early 2D species from Earth to be preserved in 3D bodies besides the Mars DNA.

Quote:59.5 ▶ Questioner: Just to clarify that could you tell me approximately how many total mind/body/spirit complexes were transferred to Earth at the beginning of this last 75,000 year period?

Ra: I am Ra. The transfer, as you call it, has been gradual. Over two billion souls are those of Maldek which have successfully made the transition.
Approximately 1.9 billion souls have, from many portions of the creation, entered into this experience at various times. The remainder are those who have experienced the first two cycles upon this sphere or who have come in at some point as Wanderers; some Wanderers having been in this sphere for many thousands of your years; others having come far more recently.

Quote:9.18 ▶ Questioner: Is there any particular race of people on our planet now who were incarnated here from second density?

Ra: I am Ra. There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on your sphere at this time. However, there are two races which use the second-density form. One is the entities of the planetary sphere you call Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through a series of what you would call karmic restitutions. They dwell within your deeper underground passageways and are known to you as “Bigfoot.”

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. There were three basic divisions of origin of these entities.
Firstly, and primarily, those of the planetary sphere you call Maldek, having become able to take up third density once again, were gradually loosed from self-imposed limitations of form.

Quote:If Earth species would have had time to progress at normal speed through 2D, most of violent characteristics related to yellow chemical bodies would have been eliminated and the capacity for compassion would have been at Venus entities level.

Quote:There are clearly Ra wanderers which are currently on Earth and they might have originated on Mars or Maldek.

Quote:There are also Earth originated complexes which might be at 2D and 3D level which are also belonging to higher selves that created Ra.

(12-23-2019, 02:09 PM)Loki Wrote: I believe humans capacity for compassion was somewhat short circuited by the need of producing quick bodies for 3D experience in order to accommodate Maldek, and especially Mars entities. Most of Mars entities though it seems that evolved beyond 3D level at this point. This process of genetic acceleration caused some of the violent characteristics specific to early 2D species from Earth to be preserved in 3D bodies besides the Mars DNA.
It seems more logical, to me, that less compassion was the occurrence that led to incarnation on this planet. The degree of bellicosity, seems irrelevant. It was the catalyst which created the need for incarnation here.

If Earth species would have had time to progress at normal speed through 2D, most of violent characteristics related to yellow chemical bodies would have been eliminated and the capacity for compassion would have been at Venus entities level.  
This seems like quite a stretch.
I feel that the bigfoot had an effect on the rest of the planetary consciousness. This is cause n effect.
That we would've "ironed out" violent characteristics, without the Martian influence, seems presumptuous, to me.
For starters...how violent were we?
I mean...do you have a basis for this proposition? Or is it an educated guess? And if so, what made you feel that the capacity for compassion, would be at the level of venus?
I only ask because every creation is unique and to say we would automatically end up there, if left to our natural path, seems contradictory to the law of free will or presumptuous.

I believe Ra belongs to a strong class of higher selves who created civilizations on all suitable planets of our Solar system.
From Ra's material I believe that Venus complexes completed already their trip back to higher selves and they cannot be wanderers anymore. There are clearly Ra wanderers which are currently on Earth and they might have originated on Mars or Maldek. There are also Earth originated complexes which might be at 2D and 3D level which are also belonging to higher selves that created Ra.
If there are Ra wanderers here, how can they not be wanderers?
Do you believe the higherself of Ra, isn't capable of bi-location?
How would they have incarnated on Maldek or Mars, if they didn't come from their higherself? Considering they are in a 75 million year cycle, of which they only have 2.5 million, left?

As you can see there is a good reason for Ra to help the development of Earth entities as we might all be related and belonging to the same higher selves created by the Sun before the space/time started. I believe Ra will continue to help the 3D entities from Earth on the new planet they will go while Earth become 4D, because I think current 2D and 3D from Earth are Ra's little brothers and sisters and they belong to the same class of higher selves.
Have you considered the possibility that Ra is the entity from the sun who placed bodies on venus, to have incarnate experiences through?
Have you considered that Ra has wanderers not yet awake?
They help because their evolution has become just as involved with this planet, as ours. They have aspects here and were part of the reason Maldek was destroyed.
They're just as much us as the reptilians, from what I understand...All is one.
In a way the violent nature of human yellow bodies might have be a mater of luck. If Mars conditions for life would have lasted then the Earth entities would have evolved harmoniously from 2 to 3 density and most of the violent characteristics of the yellow bodies would have been eliminated by natural selection.
Do you have evidence that backs this up? It seems to be missing the point of incarnation in duality.
Why would we evolve in a harmonious manner, when the whole point of this forgetting, is to realize what is, through experiencing what we are not?

(12-23-2019, 05:54 PM)Loki Wrote:

(12-23-2019, 05:04 PM)kristina Wrote:

Quote:I believe humans capacity for compassion was somewhat short circuited by the need of producing quick bodies for 3D experience in order to accommodate Maldek, and especially Mars entities. Most of Mars entities though it seems that evolved beyond 3D level at this point. This process of genetic acceleration caused some of the violent characteristics specific to early 2D species from Earth to be preserved in 3D bodies besides the Mars DNA.

How does our compassion have anything to do with producing "quick bodies"? I do not  think there are a limited amount of bodies for third density to accomadate the entities from Mars or Maldek. Maldek took 2nd density bodies anyway.
At what quote are you referring that states when the most of the entities from Mars evolved beyond 3rd density?
Where does it say that genetic acceleration caused violent characteristics that are specific to early 2nd density entities (from) Earth to be preserved in 3rd density bodies? Is this information from another book? Did I miss it in the Ra Material somewhere?

Quote:9.6 ▶ Questioner: The people that we now have— the first people, [inaudible] like us— where did they come from? How did they evolve?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak of third-density experience. The first of those to come here were brought from another planet in your solar system called by you the Red Planet, Mars. This planet’s environment became inhospitable to third-density beings. The first entities, therefore, were of this race, as you may call it, manipulated somewhat by those who were guardians at that time.

9.7 ▶ Questioner: What race is that, and how did they get from Mars to here?

Ra: I am Ra. The race is a combination of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those of your so-called Red Planet and a careful series of genetical adjustments made by the guardians of that time. These entities arrived, or were preserved, for the experience upon your sphere by a type of birthing which is non-reproductive, but consists of preparing genetic material for the incarnation of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those entities from the Red Planet.

9.8 ▶ Questioner: Then I’m assuming what you’re saying is that the guardians transferred the race here after the race had died from the physical as we know it on Mars. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

64.14 ▶ Questioner: Thank you. I read that recent research has indicated that the normal sleep cycle for entities on this planet occurs one hour later each diurnal period so that we have a 25-hour cycle instead of a 24. Is this correct, and if so, why is this?

Ra: I am Ra. This is in some cases correct. The planetary influences from which those of Mars experience memory have some effect upon these third-density physical bodily complexes. This race has given its genetic material to many bodies upon your plane.

Quote:9.6 ▶ Questioner: The people that we now have— the first people, [inaudible] like us— where did they come from? How did they evolve?

Ra: I am Ra. You speak of third-density experience. The first of those to come here were brought from another planet in your solar system called by you the Red Planet, Mars. This planet’s environment became inhospitable to third-density beings. The first entities, therefore, were of this race, as you may call it, manipulated somewhat by those who were guardians at that time.

Quote:9.7 ▶ Questioner: What race is that, and how did they get from Mars to here?

Ra: I am Ra. The race is a combination of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those of your so-called Red Planet and a careful series of genetical adjustments made by the guardians of that time. These entities arrived, or were preserved, for the experience upon your sphere by a type of birthing which is non-reproductive, but consists of preparing genetic material for the incarnation of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those entities from the Red Planet.

Quote:This process of genetic acceleration caused some of the violent characteristics specific to early 2D species from Earth

Quote:9.10 ▶ Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?

Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

Quote:9.5 ▶ Questioner: The original, the first entities on this planet— what was their origin? Where were they before they were on this planet?

Ra: I am Ra. The first entities upon this planet were water, fire, air and earth.

(12-23-2019, 08:10 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: If third density is learning the ways of love,  then what is fourth density?
I thought fourth was the love density.

(12-23-2019, 08:10 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: If third density is learning the ways of love,  then what is fourth density?
I thought fourth was the love density.

(12-23-2019, 08:56 PM)kristina Wrote:

(12-23-2019, 08:10 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: If third density is learning the ways of love,  then what is fourth density?
I thought fourth was the love density.

It is the density of love and understanding, you're correct but we have to begin those lessons within this density, upon the realization of the self.
4th density will be a refinement of the choice we have made here if we have made such a choice to polarize positively.

(12-25-2019, 09:33 PM)Kaaron Wrote: Fun side point.
My eldest daughter was born with blue eyes and blonde hair. Both myself and her mother, are Maori. Brown skin, brown eyes.
My son Aeon, had blue eyes and blonde hair at birth. My youngest was just born with blue eyes n blonde hair too.
Of my 4 children, 1 was born with brown hair n brown eyes. Hes the one who is nothing like me but more like his mother.

(12-25-2019, 10:40 PM)kristina Wrote:

(12-25-2019, 09:33 PM)Kaaron Wrote: Fun side point.
My eldest daughter was born with blue eyes and blonde hair. Both myself and her mother, are Maori. Brown skin, brown eyes.
My son Aeon, had blue eyes and blonde hair at birth. My youngest was just born with blue eyes n blonde hair too.
Of my 4 children, 1 was born with brown hair n brown eyes. Hes the one who is nothing like me but more like his mother.

Ha! Neat! I think? Of course! They are your beautiful children! I too have blonde hair and pale grey eyes. But! My dad is 1/2 Shawnee Native and they have dark skin and dark eyes (his siblings). My Mom's side blue eyes and dark chestnut hair. Milkman perhaps? I get really dark in the summer but my hair gets lighter and lighter... so do my eyebrows. I think it is cool as hell that you are Maori! This world sometimes contains the most interesting things. You are certainly one of them! Thanks for sharing!

(12-16-2019, 10:13 PM)Kaaron Wrote: I had the feeling that the elite came from the stars.
I've been getting messages that Ra are both the rulers and the ones trying to help those being ruled by the separate parts of them.
Now I've seen there is a narrative in which Akhenaten and Horus had albino skin, blonde hair n blue eyes.
They are also the blue avians, prior to incarnation as human.
It all makes alot more sense.
Ra is both the enslaved and ruler.
They could hardly reveal this to us in the early 80s. Our dualistic mindset would have (and to some still will) dismissed the material. "How do we know you're not the bad Ra?" Would be the typical retort.
I feel there is something significant that is being missed in the typical dialogue surrounding the Ra material and this seems to point to it.

(01-07-2020, 11:13 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(12-16-2019, 10:13 PM)Kaaron Wrote: I had the feeling that the elite came from the stars.
I've been getting messages that Ra are both the rulers and the ones trying to help those being ruled by the separate parts of them.
Now I've seen there is a narrative in which Akhenaten and Horus had albino skin, blonde hair n blue eyes.
They are also the blue avians, prior to incarnation as human.
It all makes alot more sense.
Ra is both the enslaved and ruler.
They could hardly reveal this to us in the early 80s. Our dualistic mindset would have (and to some still will) dismissed the material. "How do we know you're not the bad Ra?" Would be the typical retort.
I feel there is something significant that is being missed in the typical dialogue surrounding the Ra material and this seems to point to it.

These are white supremacist sentiments.

Overwhelming percentage of Ancient Egyptian population and dynasties were brown. Some percentage were subsaharan black. Akhenaton was brown, depicted brown, with brown and black everything.

These are just minor genetic mutations that happened in 2nd density to make people more comfortable in geographies they live. There is nothing more to it.