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“Those Truly Helpless” - Celestial - 11-25-2019
“The further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.
Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.”
How are such people “truly helpless” and what ramification does this have on the person? Is there a way for such people to exit this loop?
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - AnthroHeart - 11-25-2019
I think truly helpless are those who are on autopilot, who do not do self-inquiry to learn about themselves.
In other words Know Yourself.
Well, meditation is one tool for self-inquiry.
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - Aion - 11-26-2019
I think in this context they are implying that the person is helpless when they are caught in a cycle and unable to choose another path because they cannot see the cycle. The 'cycle' is reflected in the idea of catalyst. People are constantly impacted by catalyst and catalyst ignite change when it 'reacts'. The idea of consciously choosing I believe means beginning to choose one's own catalyst, which is considered what happens as one becomes more aware and adept in the understanding of the self as an infinite mind.
Supposedly there is a sort of randomness to catalyst until something 'hits' or causes the person to undergo some change internally. These can be both very positive or very traumatic events. Seemingly, if a person hasn't begun to become aware of their ability to make a choice and started to do so by the end of an incarnation it will be rinse and repeat. Hence the Buddhist concept of the endless cycles of samsara and reincarnation. When one reaches enlightenment the cycles are broken and the soul can continue on its journey towards the One.
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - RitaJC - 11-26-2019
(11-25-2019, 09:52 PM)Celestial Wrote: Is there a way for such people to exit this loop?
Yes, humble themselves and find a mentor/guide/teacher
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - Infinite - 11-26-2019
Quote:"I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot!
So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth."
(Revelation 3:15, 16)
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - Nau7ik - 11-26-2019
(11-25-2019, 09:52 PM)Celestial Wrote: “The further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.
Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.”
How are such people “truly helpless” and what ramification does this have on the person? Is there a way for such people to exit this loop?
They are helpless because they are not polarizing nor will they take any help in polarizing, because they already “know” everything. There is no talking to such a person. One cannot help them because they are not seeking help and they are completely unaware of their subconscious patterns. (Strength in the Tarot.) This entity is unwilling to acknowledge their own ignorance.
The ramifications this has, by looking at Key 8 Strength, is that one is not properly selecting and digesting their spiritual food. Therefore, They are setting harmful and destructive patterns in the subconscious which then influences the conscious awareness. This translates to blockages in the energy body, and the fiery serpent (Kundalini) is baffled. One’s conscious awareness is then centered in that area of blockage.
There is a way out of it! One may be “truly helpless” in one incarnation, but they have new opportunities in the next incarnation.
By the way, this helplessness is of our own creation. One sets mental patterns unawares, nor does he look to the meaning / essence of his mental patterns. We are given the opportunities to do so, but when we continually reject the opportunity they comes less and less. And one also has less of an ability to recognize or work with it.
Meditation is one of the best practices that we have. Even if you can just do 5 minutes a day, it better than nothing.
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - AnthroHeart - 11-26-2019
(11-26-2019, 12:11 AM)Aion Wrote: Hence the Buddhist concept of the endless cycles of samsara and reincarnation. When one reaches enlightenment the cycles are broken and the soul can continue on its journey towards the One.
Even liberation, which is not quite enlightenment can still free one from the cycles.
I'm not sure though if Buddha taught suffering also happens in higher density and you are transcending the whole Octave.
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - unity100 - 12-10-2019
(11-25-2019, 09:52 PM)Celestial Wrote: “The further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.
Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.”
How are such people “truly helpless” and what ramification does this have on the person? Is there a way for such people to exit this loop?
Look at people who just repeat the behavior patterns which existed before in their society, or people who are religious. You will see them repeating certain thoughts, feelings and behaviors incessantly. They do not think about what they are doing, they do not investigate what's outside, they do not want their patterns to be broken.
A state of being that is mostly in line with late 2d, orange-leaning behavior, repeated in 3d yellow environment. These people are 'cozy'. They are 'comfortable'. Even if they are not.
So despite their patterns may even harm themselves in the long run, leave aside keep them from spiritual progress, the cost of breaking the pattern is so high in terms of mental and emotional effort that they just stay in their existing patterns, constantly repeating what they know instead of disturbing their comfort by moving forward.
You will see many among the conservative segments in US, and ultra conservative segments in other parts of the world. They long for the 'old days', even if they did not even know how those old days were because they were just kids back then and did not have to face the reality of their times, they want entire world to fit the biases and behaviors they learned while they were young, they reject anything new, and they furiously reject anything that threatens their bias set.
You may find some people regressing back into that state of mind and progressing forward in alternating times - some people are on the fence. They want to move forward, they break some of their barriers, but at one point the emotional and mental cost of going forward becomes too high, and they regress back to tradition, religion, good old times and the like. And after some time, they may again feel the urge to move forward, and then push forward some of their barriers again.
That segment, however few in percentage, is of course much more fortunate than the segment which doesnt even risk breaking their conformism. The truly helpless are those who remain behind. Because they dont even want to go forward.
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - Kaaron - 12-10-2019
(11-26-2019, 02:52 AM)RitaJC Wrote:(11-25-2019, 09:52 PM)Celestial Wrote: Is there a way for such people to exit this loop?
Yes, humble themselves and find a mentor/guide/teacher
How does one humble themselves if they don't know humility?
I feel like catalyst will become more intense.. until the lack of awareness leads to death of the physical complex.
At a certain point, incarnation becomes pointless to the higher self.
The catalyst will hopefully be used and expansion of consciousness is the result.
Humbling oneself as a prerequisite to awareness...is like saying to be a good ball player...you put the ball in the hoop.
How you get there...is a function of catalyst and ones response to it.
It's a choice and a mentor can help...but is actually irrelevant.
Catalyst is something that can be understood internally and although a mentor may be beneficial to some...its not the most wide reaching method.
Meditation on the self and the creator as self...is the way out.
RE: “Those Truly Helpless” - schubert - 12-11-2019
maybe theyre not helpless, maybe theyre simply taking their time. from the outside they might appear "asleep", but who knows, perhaps on a deeper level they know what theyre doing and just soaking it all up.