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Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - bluedagger - 11-29-2018
In the LOO (Law of One) books,
- Lemuria is explained as a land that sunk long time ago, but wikipedia and science says it never existed.
- Atlantis is spoken of as a land that existed with people who were technologically super advanced... yet Atlantis has never been found, and it could be it was just the invention of Plato in his workings.
- Yeti has never been found, yet it is said by LOO there are many, many existing on our planet right now.
I'm not trying to call BS. I'm trying to ask, how could I believe in LOO when so many things seem to contradict it? There are more that right now I do not remember, these are just examples.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - Patrick - 11-29-2018
My understanding is that time is not linear in the way we think. A 25 thousand year cycle of incarnations could be spread over hundred of millions of years in linear time. Like the time of Atlantis within this cycle could have been millions of years in the past in linear time, but only 10 thousand years ago in terms of the cycle of incarnations. As if a big gap of linear time, where no incarnations was occurring on this planet, had lasted long enough to erase traces of the past and continue the cycle with a fresh start.
EDIT: Also, this 3d illusion we are in is setup to basically force us to develop faith. I have personal proof that reality is more that just material, yet it is not shareable. I could talk about the proof I have, but any listener would still need to take it on faith, so it's useless as a proof to others. This proof became available to me only after I had already accepted it on faith alone. So a proof was not needed at that point and yet this is when I got a proof cleverly setup so that I can't share it.
Anyway, it's good that you question the material like this. Because, only your own intuition can inform you of what is currently useful to you. If these doubts on parts of the Ra material were to result in you rejecting the whole thing, then so be it. It would just mean that this stuff is not what you need at this time. Maybe you could find it useful again in the future, we never know. At least you will be aware that this information is available.
Personally, there are things that I do not resonate with in the Ra material and I just ignore those parts. That does not bother me much. I figure that this is just another test of faith where the Law of Confusion comes into play.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - unity100 - 11-30-2018
(11-29-2018, 05:16 PM)bluedagger Wrote: In the LOO (Law of One) books,
- Lemuria is explained as a land that sunk long time ago, but wikipedia and science says it never existed.
- Atlantis is spoken of as a land that existed with people who were technologically super advanced... yet Atlantis has never been found, and it could be it was just the invention of Plato in his workings.
- Yeti has never been found, yet it is said by LOO there are many, many existing on our planet right now.
I'm not trying to call BS. I'm trying to ask, how could I believe in LOO when so many things seem to contradict it? There are more that right now I do not remember, these are just examples.
The simple fact is that our science still retains its scholastic roots and a contradictory reaction to its scholastic roots, which results in it being very conservative:
http://amasci.com/weird/vindac.html
Quote:Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar (black holes in 1930, squashed by Eddington)
Chandra originated Black Hole theory and published several papers. He was attacked viciously by his close colleague Sir Arthur Eddington, and his theory was discredited in the eyes of the research community. They were wrong, and Eddington apparently took such strong action based on an incorrect pet theory of his own. In the end Chandra could not even pursue a career in England, and he moved his research to the U. of Chicago in 1937, laboring in relative obscurity for decades. Others rediscovered Black Hole theory thirty years later. He won the 1983 Nobel Prize in physics, major recognition only fifty years. Never underestimate the authority-following tendency of the physics community, or the power of ridicule when used by people of stature such as Eddington.
Quote:J Harlen Bretz
Endured decades of scorn as the laughingstock of the geology world. His crime was to insist that enormous amounts of evidence showed that, in Eastern Washington state, the "scabland" desert landscape had endured an ancient catastrophy: a flood of staggering proportions. This was outright heresy, since the geology community of the time had dogmatic belief in a "uniformitarian" position, where all changes must take place slowly and incrementally over vast time scales. Bretz' ideas were entirely vindicated by the 1950s. Quote: "All my enemies are dead, so I have no one to gloat over."
Another article
Quote:Virginia Steen-McIntyre (found that ancient indian villiages date to 300,000BC)
Steen-McIntyre innocently stumbled into heresy when she found wide-ranging evidence that native settlements in the USA southwest were 300,000 years old. This damaged her career, since the dates acceptable to the archeologist community are roughly 50,000BC at the earliest.
Quote:George Zweig (quark theory)
Zweig published quark theory at CERN in 1964 (calling them 'aces'), but everyone knows that no particle can have 1/3 electric charge. Rather than receiving recognition, he encountered stiff barriers and was accused of being a charlatan.
Quote:Lynn Margulis (endosymbiotic organelles)
In 1970 Margulis was not only denied funding but also subjected to intense scorn by reviewers at the NSF. "I was flatly turned down," Margulis said, and the grants officers added "that I should never apply again." Textbooks today quote her discovery as fact; that plant and animal cells are really communities of cooperating bacteria. But they make no mention of the barriers erected by the biological community against these new ideas. Even today Margulis' ideas about cooperation in Evolution are not widely accepted, and are only making slow headway against the assumption that Evolution exclusively involves absolute selfishness and pure competition.
Quote:James Lovelock (Gaia theory)
Discovered that Earth's biosphere is analogous to a living organism with homeostasis: multiple feedback paths maintaining the average temperature and gas mixture of Earth's atmosphere. (Main one: ocean algae control the average temperature by sequestering CO2 and emitting DMS which becomes cloud-seeding sulfate aerosol.) This was dismissed and Lovelock attacked mostly on the grounds that evolution forbids such planetary organisms ...and that a living Earth is disgusting New-agey aborigial belief.
Another article
Quote:Binning/Roher/Gimzewski (scanning-tunneling microscope)
Invented in 1982, other surface scientists refused to believe that atom-scale resolution was possible, and demonstrations of the STM in 1985 were still met by hostility, shouts, and laughter from the specialists in the microscopy field. Its discoverers won the Nobel prize in 1986, which went far in forcing an unusually rapid change in the attitude of colleagues.
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There are many more at the bottom of the article. The bold ones are relevant to the topic of history and archaeology, and geology.
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Leaving aside the general conservatism and resistance to new knowledge in science, history has a particular kink to it: It is assumed/expected that the evolution of mankind was uniform, sequential and undisrupted at a large scale. Especially in regard to technology or other knowledge.
Coupled with the difficulty in tracking, verifying and confirming major geological changes like the ones which could sink large landmasses, this naturally makes propositions about existence of developed civilizations and their disappearance to be taken lightly.
We do know that various local civilizations have sunk due to tsunamis or rapidly advancing sea levels. From the bronze age civilizations in Iberian coast to Doggerland. But we are only able to detect and confirm the existence of difficult ones like Doggerland only recently.
And it is also assumed that knowledge progresses and is only 'set back' in incidents like fall of Rome and middle ages.
Whereas in reality, before the advent of organizations which would accumulate, record and propagate information like the scientific establishment, knowledge was easily lost, ranging from the burning of library of Alexandria, even with the existence of writing. In civilizations which did not use extensive writing, especially for knowledge that would be kept among secretive guilds/orders and relayed from generation to generation at great effort, knowledge would be lost with mere losses of a majority of the guild/order within a natural disaster, famine or plague.
In respect to conservatism, take the recent object that visited the solar system, Oumuamua... Every indicator and every finding negates it being any natural object, be it asteroid or comet, and various findings point to a non-natural origin, but the scientific community is doggedly against it, and is easily practicing selective-cognition by just accepting it as an asteroid or comet despite evidence to the contrary.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-Oumuamua-is-an-alien-spaceship-or-is-it-a-conspiracy-theory/answer/Chris-Seymour-10
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Like in a lot of the cases listed in the ridiculed scientists vindicated article, all of these 'ridiculous mysteries' would be cited as facts after they are discovered.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - GentleReckoning - 11-30-2018
Do as they recommend in every channeling and use your own discretion. Aka, learn how to seek, and apply that knowledge.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - GentleReckoning - 11-30-2018
Ra continuously reiterated that the seeking of specific knowledge would lead towards distortions. Whereas the seeking of spiritual information was highly accurate, rewarded and beneficial.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - Infinite - 11-30-2018
In my humble opinion:
1 - Read the book "Uriel's Machine". Description: * What is the standard view of history is completely wrong? * What if science and writing developed from an advanced prehistoric civilisation in the British Isles? * What is written evidence in the Dead Sea Scrolls records megalithic history and provides the plans for a machine that could rebuild civilisation following a global catastrophe? * And what if Jesus and his brother James were practitioners of megalithic astronomy? In URIEL'S MACHINE Knight & Lomas offer powerful new evidence that our planet was hit by seven mountain-sized lumps of comet, creating a series of giant waves that ripped across the globe. Putting together the latest findings of leading geologists with their own sensational new archaeological discoveries, they show how a civilisation emerged and was able to build an international network of sophisticated astronomical observatories which provided accurate calendars, could measure the diameter of the planet and accurately predict comet impact years in advance. The revelation that this is the true purpose of the great megalithic sites in Western Europe, built long before the Egyptian pyramids.
2 - "Less than 0.05 percent of the ocean floor has been mapped to a level of detail useful for detecting items such as airplane wreckage or the spires of undersea volcanic vents". Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/just-how-little-do-we-know-about-the-ocean-floor/
3 - The metaphysical reality was already proofed in laboratory with the psychic experiences. For example:
Description: Dr. Karl Osis, director of the ASPR (American Society of Psychic Research) demonstrates a laboratorial test, in which Alex Tanous, the famous astral projector, can identify a composite symbol inside a machine, put at several different positions, in a random sequence, with some rooms between Tanous and the machine. Note that you need spy exactly at the right point to see the symbol inside the machine, it is not possible see it from another position. This shows that is is note a “mind perception”, when the observer is not “point-located”. This scene appears at 1h 17' in the classic documentary by Rolf Olsen "Journey into the Beyond".
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - Nau7ik - 11-30-2018
(11-29-2018, 05:16 PM)bluedagger Wrote: In the LOO (Law of One) books,
- Lemuria is explained as a land that sunk long time ago, but wikipedia and science says it never existed.
- Atlantis is spoken of as a land that existed with people who were technologically super advanced... yet Atlantis has never been found, and it could be it was just the invention of Plato in his workings.
- Yeti has never been found, yet it is said by LOO there are many, many existing on our planet right now.
I'm not trying to call BS. I'm trying to ask, how could I believe in LOO when so many things seem to contradict it? There are more that right now I do not remember, these are just examples.
Oh yeah because Wikipedia is the arbiter of truth. Lol. How do you know anything is true? Look at any human knowledge. Science is largely theory. Nothing is truly known. That’s the point of 3D. You must become your own authority and forge your path of polarity.
Lemuria was a civilization from the very distant past, nothing will be found of it and virtually nothing is known of it. It’s faintly remembered in myth and legend. In fact, the aboriginal people of Australia have some interesting history to share with those who are willing to listen. (David Icke has a video of an interview with the aboriginal Australian people on his YouTube.)
Secondly, Atlantis fell around 12,000 years ago. It was completely destroyed, very few escaped the destruction. But these few made their way to various places on the globe (Atlantis was probably in the middle of the Atlantic. So they would’ve had access to both continents). The fall of Atlantis is remembered in legend and myth. Some of the negatives are said to be able to trace their bloodline back to Atlantis. Some of the Atlantans fled to South America and Egypt.
Humans don’t acknowledge history beyond 4000 BC. Human history can be traced back to 6000 years ago in mainstream history. This is utter nonsense. There are ruins in Turkey that date back 12000 years ago. Humans have simply forgotten a lot of our history. It has also been destroyed time and time again by the burning of libraries of conquered nations. Killing priests. Desecrating and destroying temples and Holy sites.
The truth is there for those who have the will to seek it and for those who can trust themselves in their ability to discern the truth. Frankly, I think it’s unimportant information. Whether you believe Lemuria and Atlantis were real matters very little. In my opinion, Atlantis did exist. I really don’t know about Lemuria, but it’s not unreasonable to assume there was a primitive civilization in early human history.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - flofrog - 11-30-2018
Welcome bluedagger to the forum.
I agree with Nau7ik and Infinite, and yes Wikipedia is just a tool which has many errors lol
I think too that specific knowledge is distracting. You, intuitively can discern truth from less truthful things, and your choice is to decide if the LOO resonates or not with you. About Lemuria and Atlantis Edgar Cayce had an interesting little view that small parts of Lemuria would still be above water in Santa Barbara, California, and parts of Atlantis were in that Bermuda Triangle with some magnetic pull from past pyramids drowned there. It’s fun to read, among all other things written, but in the end what goes on in our present moment is more exciting
Have a safe journey !
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - unity100 - 11-30-2018
Wikipedia is spectacularly accurate and reliable. We are not in 2005. Today an ordinary wikipedia article has as much references as an average master's thesis. So much that using wikipedia is banned in many education institutions, not because it is unreliable, but students just copy/paste and cheat to pass even higher education exams and homeworks.
However, wikipedia reflects the best state of our knowledge as it exists today. It naturally reflects our biases too. So it also reflects the conservatism of the scientific establishment regarding new ideas.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - loostudent - 12-01-2018
Interesting topic although transient type of information. There are some indications that advanced civilisations existed before the allegedly 4th millennium BCE. For example there is a lot of similarity between destruction myths (flood myths) around the world.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - Cyan - 12-01-2018
I'll answer this in a quick scholastic look.
From what I can tell, Atlantis is:
Lemuria is:
The islands in the pacific and their method of communicating with each other and their knowledge of ocean currents. Its like a continent that sank and only the mountaintops are still visible.
Yeti is:
Homo erectus.
But that is just my thinking on this and in no way difinitive, use your discernement as my opinions are not authortiative and do not speak for the majority of the community; the way I see it, for all intents and purposes Lemuria could be anything from modern era pacific to dinosaur era world from which some kind of alien race survived and is talking to us in our hidden history.
Such as this:
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - Cyan - 12-01-2018
Then again, we could be watching a new iteration of this, in all fairness:
Wouldn't surprise me, I tend to flock to evil cults and have a huge fusion detonation and kinda of see the cult explode.
Either way, all is good.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - Ghostdancer17 - 12-02-2018
(11-29-2018, 05:16 PM)bluedagger Wrote: In the LOO (Law of One) books,
- Lemuria is explained as a land that sunk long time ago, but wikipedia and science says it never existed.
- Atlantis is spoken of as a land that existed with people who were technologically super advanced... yet Atlantis has never been found, and it could be it was just the invention of Plato in his workings.
- Yeti has never been found, yet it is said by LOO there are many, many existing on our planet right now.
I'm not trying to call BS. I'm trying to ask, how could I believe in LOO when so many things seem to contradict it? There are more that right now I do not remember, these are just examples.
Hello blue dagger. We would like to offer our distortion of Atlantis and Lemuria.
It is quite true that Lemuria and Atlantis existed in the history of our 75,000 year Third Density Cycle. It is our understanding that the Lemurian Root Race began approximately 63,000 years ago (though this figure cannot be accurate) and developed a sprawling Civilization upon the Continent of Mu. You are correct to note that this continent was fatally submerged due to reaction of a gas pocket beneath the land mass which was combusted by Hydrogen bombs deployed by the Orion group.
Before the demise of Lemuria and on the opposite hemisphere the Atlantean Root Race was also prospering. The Atlantean Civilation may be estimated to have originated perhaps 55,000 years ago. The Atlantean retained a latent scientific retention which was developed into a colossus. For all of the second trimester of 25,000 years and into the third, the Atlantean Civilization flourished.
Again, the Satonians of Orion entered the scene, now calling themselves Atlans. These ones skillfully infiltrated positions in political leadership and manipulated the Atlanteans into devising a weapon which operated on crystal power. The Ray was ultimately directed into the Earth and the Atlantean Root Race came to a rather abrupt close approximately 11,600 years ago.
Thus you may observe there are discrepancies to due a lack of knowledge. We hope this provides some small insight into the legitimacy of the Ra material. Of course you are free to accept or reject such material as you see fit and form your own conclusions.
In the Love and Light of our One Infinite Creator. Adonai.
RE: Lemuria, Yeti, Atlantis... how to explain science contradicts LOO? - Infinite - 12-03-2018
(12-02-2018, 08:55 PM)Ghostdancer17 Wrote: You are correct to note that this continent was fatally submerged due to reaction of a gas pocket beneath the land mass which was combusted by Hydrogen bombs deployed by the Orion group.
(12-02-2018, 08:55 PM)Ghostdancer17 Wrote: Again, the Satonians of Orion entered the scene, now calling themselves Atlans. These ones skillfully infiltrated positions in political leadership and manipulated the Atlanteans into devising a weapon which operated on crystal power. The Ray was ultimately directed into the Earth and the Atlantean Root Race came to a rather abrupt close approximately 11,600 years ago.
Where did you get it?