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Help surrendering - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-19-2018
I'm doing everything afvised: Playing guitar, working out, spending time with friends and family, meditating, trying to ground myself, getting a psychologist (dont have one yet)
askig for antipsychotics, playing with animals, playung guutar, working out, resting...
But I still face these fears...
I keep getting told to surrendur to the dear, but every time I try to, I dont. maybe cause Im worried that facingit and fearing it will manifest it?
I tried letting it hit full force, but as a purely nodily experie ce, and that didnt get rid of it...
So vcan you guys help me learn how to surrender properly to it so I can release it?
RE: Help surrendering - AnthroHeart - 09-19-2018
I don't know, but maybe not labeling it might help. Just experience it without trying to label what it is.
RE: Help surrendering - GentleReckoning - 09-19-2018
Look up Byron Katie.
RE: Help surrendering - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 11:57 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Look up Byron Katie.
Okay. Thanks.
RE: Help surrendering - Jade - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 11:37 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: So vcan you guys help me learn how to surrender properly to it so I can release it?
I don't know if anybody can teach you surrender...
I would frame it instead as acceptance. Start accepting all of your emotions, your fears, your whims. Don't necessarily act on them in the moment, just accept that they are a part of you, a part of the Creator that makes the Creator greater than it was before - because nobody has experienced YOUR fears in YOUR body at this current space/time. It is unique and therefore extremely valuable to the Creator. Surrendering would be just accepting that you are living the will of the Creator, even in your dark moments. And if you can forgive yourself too, and maybe find a bit of gratitude for the Creation you are currently in, well, I believe these are the emotions to focus on to help alleviate a lot of distortions.
Acceptance, forgiveness, gratitude. No particular order.
RE: Help surrendering - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-19-2018
(09-19-2018, 11:47 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I don't know, but maybe not labeling it might help. Just experience it without trying to label what it is.
I do.
RE: Help surrendering - Minyatur - 09-19-2018
Surrender to your inability to surrender.
All is well. Drop the expectations.
RE: Help surrendering - GentleReckoning - 09-20-2018
If you're still having trouble, invest in a white flag and wave it liberally in front of everyone you see for a couple days.
RE: Help surrendering - Agua - 09-20-2018
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RE: Help surrendering - Quan - 09-20-2018
(09-19-2018, 11:37 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: I'm doing everything afvised: Playing guitar, working out, spending time with friends and family, meditating, trying to ground myself, getting a psychologist (dont have one yet)
askig for antipsychotics, playing with animals, playung guutar, working out, resting...
But I still face these fears...
I keep getting told to surrendur to the dear, but every time I try to, I dont. maybe cause Im worried that facingit and fearing it will manifest it?
I tried letting it hit full force, but as a purely nodily experie ce, and that didnt get rid of it...
So vcan you guys help me learn how to surrender properly to it so I can release it?
Embrace all parts of yourself any type of resistance will be met with resistance, instead meet with acceptance, "warts and all"
Practical tips, being in silence your mind can have thoughts or emotions just let it run its course Observing in silence.
Oh and Balancing exercises Law of One: that helps with acceptance.. I cannot even begin to describe how amazing they are, life changing! Maybe most underrated thing in Law of One..
Main Summary Here:
5.2
6.1
"the key to balance may then be seen in the unstudied, spontaneous, and honest response of entities toward experiences, thus using experience to the utmost, then applying the balancing exercises and achieving the proper attitude for the most purified spectrum of energy center manifestation in violet ray"
RE: Help surrendering - Cyan - 09-20-2018
This may work for just me and not for you, but, I'll share it anyway.
I like to stare at the norsemap internet traffic simulation and listen to all the people talking there and it soon grounds me as the people there have such nice souls and it feels like being in one of those grey alien entertainement modules.
http://map.norsecorp.com/#/ It may work for you.
RE: Help surrendering - flofrog - 09-20-2018
EP,
Quan just posted a beautiful quote today on the daily quote :
“ Each of you is a gallant, gallant soul and we both envy you and honor you, for you do much that you do not know; even as you suffer, you heal worlds."
This is you, EP ,
RE: Help surrendering - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-21-2018
(09-20-2018, 08:33 AM)flofrog Wrote: EP,
Quan just posted a beautiful quote today on the daily quote :
“ Each of you is a gallant, gallant soul and we both envy you and honor you, for you do much that you do not know; even as you suffer, you heal worlds."
This is you, EP ,
Thanks. Youve got no idea though what has just happened in the past 2 or 3 days...
I was taken to the E.R. and nearly got Baker Acted. Lied my way out of the hospital.
Uncovered more wounds.
Deep wounds.
In a moment of vulnerability and terror, I found myself having to argue with my parents and I, not incontrol of my emotions am exploding with anger to match my terror, and my mom has self control, but my dad does not. He's yelling back "I dont need to take this s***! a******!"
Mom had to restrain her anger and desire to fight me earlier when i was having another episode.
And without going into detail, I came tomthe realization my whole life has just been people fighting me.
And in my most vulnerable moments, I often have had to be able to defend myself.
And in my most vulnerable moments, I've been met with anger, with dominance struggles, with judgement, with PUNISHMENT.
And Im being told to just surrender.
God it's hard...
RE: Help surrendering - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-21-2018
(09-20-2018, 12:07 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote: If you're still having trouble, invest in a white flag and wave it liberally in front of everyone you see for a couple days.
Hardy har har.
Gotta show my dad that one. He loves those kinds of jokes.
RE: Help surrendering - GentleReckoning - 09-21-2018
My first dad joke ever! Now I'm real boy!
RE: Help surrendering - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-21-2018
(09-21-2018, 12:39 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: My first dad joke ever! Now I'm real boy!LOL XD Now that one really DID make me laugh hehe.
RE: Help surrendering - GentleReckoning - 09-21-2018
So if you look up byron katie, she talks of surrendering. This is only half the battle for men. As women are never disconnected from their sacral chakra or emotional experience, they can process through submission.
As men, we are always connected to our mental body, and thus must mentally deal with discordant fears and thoughts.
If you can process it emotionally, then good for you. If not, balancing is a necessity. This is simply manipulation of the fear until you rework it towards your benefit. Aligning everything in your crown to further your conscious evolvement.
RE: Help surrendering - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-21-2018
(09-21-2018, 02:15 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: So if you look up byron katie, she talks of surrendering. This is only half the battle for men. As women are never disconnected from their sacral chakra or emotional experience, they can process through submission.
As men, we are always connected to our mental body, and thus must mentally deal with discordant fears and thoughts.
If you can process it emotionally, then good for you. If not, balancing is a necessity. This is simply manipulation of the fear until you rework it towards your benefit. Aligning everything in your crown to further your conscious evolvement.
Wjatcha think about the video of this thread?
https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=16442
Does that work?
"Just hink about what you DO want instead"?