Quote:11.8 Questioner: Is there anyone in our history that is commonly known who went to a fourth-density self-service or negative type planet or who will go there?

Ra: I am Ra. The number of entities thus harvested is small. However, a few have penetrated the eighth level which is only available from the opening up of the seventh through the sixth. Penetration into the eighth or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle.

Quote:34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

Quote:48.10 Questioner: Could you tell me how the various bodies, red through violet, are linked to the energy center, centers, red through violet? Are they linked in some way?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

As we have noted, each of the true-color densities has the seven energy centers and each entity contains all this in potentiation. The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience. There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors. This must be done with utmost care while in the physical body for as we noted when speaking of the dangers of linking red/orange/yellow circuitry with true-color blue circuitry the potential for disarrangement of the mind/body/spirit complex is great. However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.

Quote:17.25 Questioner: How did Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, and Rasputin get harvested prior to the harvest?

Ra: I am Ra. It is the right/privilege/duty of those opening consciously the gate to intelligent infinity to choose the manner of their leaving of the density. Those of negative orientation who so achieve this right/duty most often choose to move forward in their learn/teaching of service to self.

Quote:11.11 Questioner: Did this enable them to do what we refer to as magic? Do paranormal things while they were incarnate here?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The first two entities mentioned made little use of these abilities consciously. However, they were bent single-mindedly upon service to self, sparing no efforts in personal discipline to double, re-double and so empower this gateway. The third was a conscious adept and also spared no effort in the pursuit of service to self.

(07-11-2018, 10:33 AM)Agua Wrote: Probably my answer does not answer your question directly, but i'll give it a try:

It seems you're viewing it as a technical process.
In the sense of "if i push this combomation of buttons, it will happen".

Quote:49.6 Questioner: What process would be the recommended process for correctly awakening, as they say, the kundalini and of what value would that be?

Ra: I am Ra. The metaphor of the coiled serpent being called upwards is vastly appropriate for consideration by your peoples. This is what you are attempting when you seek. There are, as we have stated, great misapprehensions concerning this metaphor and the nature of pursuing its goal. We must generalize and ask that you grasp the fact that this in effect renders far less useful that which we share. However, as each entity is unique, generalities are our lot when communicating for your possible edification.

We have two types of energy. We are attempting then, as entities in any true color of this octave, to move the meeting place of inner and outer natures further and further along or upward along the energy centers. The two methods of approaching this with sensible method are first, the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual. As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of catalyst the location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise to the new true-color entity. The experience, whatever it may be, will be seated in red ray and considered as to its survival content and so forth.

Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.

Meanwhile the Creator lies within. In the north pole the crown is already upon the head and the entity is potentially a god. This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of the self and of the Creator.

Where these energies meet is where the serpent will have achieved its height. When this uncoiled energy approaches universal love and radiant being the entity is in a state whereby the harvestability of the entity comes nigh.

(07-11-2018, 08:58 AM)Infinite Wrote: I'm wondering about the difference between open the gateway and contact the intelligent infinity and penetrate into intelligent infinity. Not only in terms of meaning but also in terms of energy centers.

Quo on Dec. 31, 1989 Wrote:The choices that you make in this density are predisposed by the biases and polarities that you have picked up in lifetimes long ago and more recent. When biases of love and peace and gentleness and humbleness of heart become your rest and your confidence, then perhaps you may release time and space, allowing it to be a useful and extremely potent offerer of catalyst to those who wish to learn lessons of love.

(07-11-2018, 08:58 AM)Infinite Wrote: I'm wondering about the difference between open the gateway and contact the intelligent infinity and penetrate into intelligent infinity. Not only in terms of meaning but also in terms of energy centers.

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What you think? Now, I think that is possible empower the gateway through the indigo until the activation of the violet-ray center, which is when the penetration occurs.

(07-12-2018, 03:10 AM)anagogy Wrote: When Ra says "empower" the gateway, in my humble opinion, they just mean "get really good at opening the indigo center". The indigo center is the "gateway". It is the level of "intelligent energy" but it is not "intelligent infinity".

(07-12-2018, 03:10 AM)anagogy Wrote: It is the level of "intelligent energy"

(07-12-2018, 03:10 AM)anagogy Wrote: So you are using the energy of the 7th level from the 6th level, and of course the 8th (unpotentiated intelligent infinity) is where the 7th level of energy comes from.

Quote:48.10 Questioner: Could you tell me how the various bodies, red through violet, are linked to the energy center, centers, red through violet? Are they linked in some way?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

As we have noted, each of the true-color densities has the seven energy centers and each entity contains all this in potentiation. The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience. There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors. This must be done with utmost care while in the physical body for as we noted when speaking of the dangers of linking red/orange/yellow circuitry with true-color blue circuitry the potential for disarrangement of the mind/body/spirit complex is great. However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.

(07-12-2018, 03:10 AM)anagogy Wrote: That is the best analogy I can give you.

(07-11-2018, 11:57 PM)peregrine Wrote: This may not get you exactly where you are trying to go, but it feels far less complex.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1989/1989_1231.aspx

Quo on Dec. 31, 1989 Wrote:The choices that you make in this density are predisposed by the biases and polarities that you have picked up in lifetimes long ago and more recent. When biases of love and peace and gentleness and humbleness of heart become your rest and your confidence, then perhaps you may release time and space, allowing it to be a useful and extremely potent offerer of catalyst to those who wish to learn lessons of love.

Just learn the lessons of love.  After that it sounds like you can take some "time off."

 

(07-12-2018, 02:21 PM)Foha Wrote:

(07-11-2018, 11:57 PM)peregrine Wrote: This may not get you exactly where you are trying to go, but it feels far less complex.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1989/1989_1231.aspx

Quo on Dec. 31, 1989 Wrote:The choices that you make in this density are predisposed by the biases and polarities that you have picked up in lifetimes long ago and more recent. When biases of love and peace and gentleness and humbleness of heart become your rest and your confidence, then perhaps you may release time and space, allowing it to be a useful and extremely potent offerer of catalyst to those who wish to learn lessons of love.

Just learn the lessons of love.  After that it sounds like you can take some "time off."

 

I really appreciate your perspective.
I sense wisdom and humbleness in what you suggest.

For that reason, I will try to work on what is required, and go from there. I am tempted to explore into the adept, but I think it is more wise to stay in the world already made for me until the timing is right.

(07-12-2018, 02:21 PM)Foha Wrote: I really appreciate your perspective.
I sense wisdom and humbleness in what you suggest.

For that reason, I will try to work on what is required, and go from there. I am tempted to explore into the adept, but I think it is more wise to stay in the world already made for me until the timing is right.

(07-12-2018, 09:36 AM)Infinite Wrote:

(07-12-2018, 03:10 AM)anagogy Wrote: It is the level of "intelligent energy"

There is some answer of Ra with this definition?

(07-12-2018, 09:36 AM)Infinite Wrote: Yes. But my doubt about activation of violet-ray is because this stretch of Ra:

Quote:48.10 Questioner: Could you tell me how the various bodies, red through violet, are linked to the energy center, centers, red through violet? Are they linked in some way?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

As we have noted, each of the true-color densities has the seven energy centers and each entity contains all this in potentiation. The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience. There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors. This must be done with utmost care while in the physical body for as we noted when speaking of the dangers of linking red/orange/yellow circuitry with true-color blue circuitry the potential for disarrangement of the mind/body/spirit complex is great. However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.

(07-14-2018, 08:57 PM)anagogy Wrote: I don't know if this helps you, my brother. There are more references.

(07-14-2018, 08:57 PM)anagogy Wrote: I can see why you would question that. I can only offer my humble opinion that one can self harvest if one can open indigo, violet, or access the octave level (if you can call this a level -- it is really beyond such concepts).

(07-16-2018, 02:49 PM)Infinite Wrote:

(07-14-2018, 08:57 PM)anagogy Wrote: I don't know if this helps you, my brother. There are more references.

Help a lot. Thank my brother. I'm sorry if I gave you work.

(07-11-2018, 08:58 AM)Infinite Wrote: I'm wondering about the difference between open the gateway and contact the intelligent infinity and penetrate into intelligent infinity. Not only in terms of meaning but also in terms of energy centers. Here some stretchs of LOO about this:

These stretchs seems indicates that's necessary activate the violet ray center. Perhaps the contact is open and activate only the indigo:

Quote:11.8 Questioner: Is there anyone in our history that is commonly known who went to a fourth-density self-service or negative type planet or who will go there?

Ra: I am Ra. The number of entities thus harvested is small. However, a few have penetrated the eighth level which is only available from the opening up of the seventh through the sixth. Penetration into the eighth or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle.

Quote:34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

Quote:48.10 Questioner: Could you tell me how the various bodies, red through violet, are linked to the energy center, centers, red through violet? Are they linked in some way?

Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.

As we have noted, each of the true-color densities has the seven energy centers and each entity contains all this in potentiation. The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience. There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors. This must be done with utmost care while in the physical body for as we noted when speaking of the dangers of linking red/orange/yellow circuitry with true-color blue circuitry the potential for disarrangement of the mind/body/spirit complex is great. However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.

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Here Ra said that is possible "open consciously the gate to intelligent infinity":

Quote:17.25 Questioner: How did Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, and Rasputin get harvested prior to the harvest?

Ra: I am Ra. It is the right/privilege/duty of those opening consciously the gate to intelligent infinity to choose the manner of their leaving of the density. Those of negative orientation who so achieve this right/duty most often choose to move forward in their learn/teaching of service to self.

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Here about "empower" the gateway:

Quote:11.11 Questioner: Did this enable them to do what we refer to as magic? Do paranormal things while they were incarnate here?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The first two entities mentioned made little use of these abilities consciously. However, they were bent single-mindedly upon service to self, sparing no efforts in personal discipline to double, re-double and so empower this gateway. The third was a conscious adept and also spared no effort in the pursuit of service to self.

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What you think? Now, I think that is possible empower the gateway through the indigo until the activation of the violet-ray center, which is when the penetration occurs.

Quote:84.21 Questioner: Is there any way to tell which ray the transfer was for an individual after the experience? Is there any way for the individual to tell in which particular ray the transfer occurred?

Ra: I am Ra. There is only a subjective yardstick or measure of such. If the energies have flowed so that love is made whole, green-ray transfer has taken place. If, by the same entities’ exchange, greater ease in communication and greater sight has been experienced, the energy has been refined to the blue-ray energy center. If the polarized entities, by this same energy transfer experience, find that the faculties of will and faith have been stimulated, not for a brief while but for a great duration of what you call time, you may perceive the indigo-ray transfer. We may not speak of the violet-ray transfer except to note that it is an opening to the gateway of intelligent infinity. Indeed, the indigo-ray transfer is also this but, shall we say, the veil has not yet been lifted.

Quote:After Sri Ramakrishna had the supreme knowledge, the Divine Mother instructed him: "Remain in bhava samadhi, bhava mukha." You see, there is the supreme experience where there is no ego left - complete union with God. This is nirvikalpa samadhi. And then there is a lower samadhi, the savikalpa, where there remains a sense of ego: I see God, I have the vision of God. Bhava mukha is the state between the supreme, nirvikalpa, and the lower, savikalpa, samadhi. So his mind plied between these two states. In other words, he lived in samadhi all the time, only occasionally coming down to teach. And while teaching, he would again go into that, and then come back, then again go into that. This was unique.

Quote:Now in the lower, savikalpa samadhi that Ramanuja had, there is the distinction between the individual and God. In it, you see yourself a part of the whole, so the universe is not completely annihilated. You see a relation of the universe to Brahman, to God. Ramanuja rationalized that experience in terms of the philosophy that the individual soul, though not separate from God, is a part of God and distinct from him. The universe as we see it is, of course, not true, because what appears in that lower samadhi appears as a part of God. Naturally, then, in his philosophy the universe is like the body of God - the cosmos is the body, and he is the soul. And we are related to him as parts to the whole. To Ramanuja, bhakti is the ideal, not knowledge, because he considers knowledge relative. You see, he did not have that transcendental, absolute knowledge. He did not experience that truth. So he teaches that devotion which makes us completely forget our little ego and have self-surrender.

Quote:The next higher center, called ajna, is between the eyebrows. Ajna literally means command. Here one attains  what we technically call savikalpa samadhi. Through absorption there comes the direct experience of God in his personal aspect, but there still remains a separation from God. Here one hears the voice of God with the command to give blessings to others.

Quote:With the opening of the sixth center, between the eyebrows, one's ego is fragmented into a thousand pieces and one witnesses the death of ego in some definite form.

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After the experience of death comes the experience of resurrection, accompanied by unprecedented joy and bliss. At this point, one may see a cherished and adored form of God and experience his kingdom.

Quote:The opening of the crown center takes place in flashes. It is a time when one's body opens for the soul to merge with the absolute. Most practitioners decide to continue to live until their allotted time on earth is finished. They want to impart the knowledge they have gained to others. This could be for two reasons: either they love everyone unconditionally and want to help them achieve liberation, or  they do not want to leave any reason for returning to earth in further incarnations.

Quote:34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

(02-21-2019, 03:50 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I believe there are four types of Yoga paths toward enlightenment.
I know you can get there through love and through body work and through knowledge. I don't remember the fourth path.

(02-21-2019, 06:00 PM)loostudent Wrote:

(02-21-2019, 03:50 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I believe there are four types of Yoga paths toward enlightenment.
I know you can get there through love and through body work and through knowledge. I don't remember the fourth path.

The path of love is through devotion (bhakti). It's indulging in emotions, worship ...

The fourth path would be karma yoga - the path of action, selfless service, expecting nothing in return ...

Quote:As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. To attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance.

(02-21-2019, 07:44 PM)loostudent Wrote: @IndigoGeminiWolf

Bhakti is cultivating a loving devotion to God through the personal apect of the Divine (God in form). It starts with one chosen Deity but ultimately it leads to see God in everything. It's more emotional than intellectual.

Caution is advised regarding kundalini yoga!

Quote:As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. To attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance.

Quote:Sri Ramakrishna summed this up from his own experience in a few words. He said that the kundalini, the Mother energy, lies asleep at the base of the spine and that an individual ordinarily lives within the three lower centers: at the base of the spine, the root of the genitals, and the navel. As such, no higher thoughts, no pure thoughts, come, but attachment to worldliness - lust, greed, and power - remains. When spiritual awakening comes, consciousness is in the region of the heart. There one has the vision of God as formless, blissful light, and wonders at the beauty, the grandeur, and the great joy of that experience. Then when reaches the next higher center in the region of the throat, that person becomes completely detached from worldliness and cannot bear worldly talk; the mind dwells in God. When the kundalini rises to the next higher center between the eyebrows, ecstasy is attained, and samadhi, a complete vision of God. But there is still a sense of duality, the sense of "I." The supreme truth of Brahman is experienced, but there is a thin glass partition, as it were. When that partition is gone and the kundalini becomes united with Shiva in the center of the brain, the individual experiences unified consciousness. Of course this experience is indescribable and indefinable.

Quote:11.8 Questioner: Is there anyone in our history that is commonly known who went to a fourth-density self-service or negative type planet or who will go there?

Ra: I am Ra. The number of entities thus harvested is small. However, a few have penetrated the eighth level which is only available from the opening up of the seventh through the sixth. Penetration into the eighth or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle.

Quote:34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

Quote:Questioner: One more. Do entities that polarize towards service to self also experience such moments of enlightenment, of oneness?

I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. These contacts with intelligent infinity do indeed occur for those upon the negatively or service-to-self oriented path. However, the experience is one which moves past the green-ray energy center from yellow to blue, then to indigo, in order that the negatively oriented entity, who sees compassion and love for all as folly, may experience a contact with the one Creator that is in accord with its chosen path, that which sees the power, the control, and the setting in order of those about it as its duty and as that which is most desired.