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Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Infinite - 02-22-2018
Hi, fellows.
I showed the material to a friend and he asked me about it. I know about free will, but the suffering of the group because the acts of STS entity was so much. Why the free will is so important at the point of Ra have done nothing against the Orion''s entity?
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Cyan - 02-22-2018
Best guess, we aren't 4th D positive so no infringement, any time a STS 4th D or higher attacks, the STO will provide a window out of it, But whil in 3rd density, such a window will not be "magical" but rather, mundane, like going to live in a hospital.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Nau7ik - 02-22-2018
Ra doesn’t have the right to stop them, Ra knows this. Ra is at the level of higher self, and probably above it as they are almost ready for 7th density. All is unified at that level. There is no polarity in consciousness anymore.
So, Ra didn’t have the right to stop what 4 and 5D negative entities choose to do. The negative greetings were given to Carla, Don, and Jim, not Ra. Therefore, it was L/L’s responsibility to deal with it. It’s not like Ra didn’t help the group either. Ra was answering their questions and giving them high spiritual teachings. This is a great protection!
Ra didn’t need to stop the negative entities because L/L was already doing it. Neither of the 3 in the group accepted the 4D temptations. No need for any intervention (which btw is an infringement of free will). We can’t control what others choose to do. Ra advises the group to keep sending love and light to the 5D negative. “I acknowledge your greeting, but I have to refuse it as it is not helpful to me on my path at this time.” (Carla’s perspective.)
The resolve of the 5D negative entity was that if he can’t take the light for himself (which he had continually failed to do. Carla would not budge off the Right hand oath.), then he would put out the light. again, the entity failed with Carla. He got his hooks into Don, unfortunately.
Now, Don had unwittingly given the 5D negative an opportunity of entrance. Don did this of his own free will. Ultimately this is how we learn. Unfortunately Don died and the contact ended. The contact being no more, the 5D negative accomplished his work and left them.
So as one can see, Ra has no right to interefere and infringe on the free will of the multiple parties involved. They don’t need to and they don’t desire to do so.
Anyway, just my perspective.. take it or leave it.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Jade - 02-22-2018
Ra gives the group a lot of advice that they don't listen to. At a certain point, Ra can't just banish all of their problems. Most of the problems had to do with Carla's subtle balancing of the indigo ray, and her tendency to embrace martyrdom, which was comfortable for her because she empathized so much with Jesus. This was really difficult for her to overcome. Plus, she went into trance, always with the mindset, "If this is the last one, and I die, then I will die happy, because I have made Don happy." This was easy for the Orion entity to take advantage of. She was consciously, willingly, always ready to die for the contact. Ra spent a lot of effort coaching her on indigo ray work, and insisting that she remember to save some energy for herself and not give it all away during the trance sessions, which is what she usually did.
Jim has also mentioned that Don once spoke aloud of offering himself up to the entity to take the full brunt of the attacks instead of Carla. Someone had to die, and they knew that from precognitively writing the Esmerelda Sweetwater book. As it was the female character who died in the end of the book, everyone was prepared for it to be Carla that gave her life. But in the end, it was Don, and this was his way of opening a heart that had been quite closed off through most of his incarnation, due to childhood trauma.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Cainite - 02-22-2018
(02-22-2018, 09:29 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Now, Don had unwittingly given the 5D negative an opportunity of entrance. Don did this of his own free will.
What did he do?
(02-22-2018, 02:16 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Jim has also mentioned that Don once spoke aloud of offering himself up to the entity to take the full brunt of the attacks instead of Carla. Someone had to die, and they knew that from precognitively writing the Esmerelda Sweetwater book. As it was the female character who died in the end of the book, everyone was prepared for it to be Carla that gave her life. But in the end, it was Don, and this was his way of opening a heart that had been quite closed off through most of his incarnation, due to childhood trauma.
This story gets sadder every time I read about it.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Spaced - 02-22-2018
Balance and respect for the Law
Quote:67.19 Questioner: I will ask about that in a later session since I don’t want to get off the track because it has something to do with the mechanics of time, which I am very puzzled about.
But I would ask then, the fifth-density entity in coming here to offer us service as you mentioned penetrated the quarantine. Was this done through one of the windows or was this because of his, shall I say, magical ability?
Ra: I am Ra. This was done through a very slight window which less magically oriented entities or groups could not have used to advantage.
67.20 Questioner: Now, the main point of this line of questioning has to do with the first distortion and the fact that this window existed. Was this, shall I say, a portion of the random window effect and are we experiencing the same type of balancing in receiving the offerings of this entity as the planet in general receives because of the window effect?
Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct. As the planetary sphere accepts more highly evolved positive entities or groups with information to offer, the same opportunity must be offered to similarly wise negatively oriented entities or groups.
[font=sans-serif]67.21 Questioner: Then we experience in this seeming difficulty the what I would call effect of the wisdom of the first distortion and for that reason must fully accept the wisdom of that which we experience. This is my personal view. Is it congruent with Ra’s?
Ra: I am Ra. In our view we would perhaps go further in expressing appreciation of this opportunity. This is an intensive opportunity in that it is quite markèd in its effects, both actual and potential, and as it affects the instrument’s distortions towards pain and other difficulties such as the dizziness, it enables the instrument to continuously choose to serve others and to serve the Creator.
Similarly it offers a continual opportunity for each in the group to express support under more distorted or difficult circumstances of the other-self experiencing the brunt, shall we say, of this attack, thus being able to demonstrate the love and light of the Infinite Creator and, furthermore, choosing working by working to continue to serve as messengers for this information which we attempt to offer and to serve the Creator thereby.
Thus the opportunities are quite noticeable as well as the distortions caused by this circumstance.[/font]
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - anagogy - 02-22-2018
(02-22-2018, 01:08 AM)Infinite Wrote: Hi, fellows.
I showed the material to a friend and he asked me about it. I know about free will, but the suffering of the group because the acts of STS entity was so much. Why the free will is so important at the point of Ra have done nothing against the Orion''s entity?
Because even Ra can't create your own reality for you. They can only offer suggestions, which, as others mentioned, were often not properly followed. For every spiritual gift we have, we typically will have to karmically take on a corresponding weakness which negative entities will attempt to exploit. The game has to be fair for both sides of the checker board.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - GentleReckoning - 02-22-2018
Every avenue of attack is a distortion to be balanced, or a boundary to be established. If Ra cut the group off from their learning of themselves, then Ra would necessarily have become negative, no? It's like becoming better at martial arts. If you believe your adversary to be malicious, then you create that outcome. If you believe your adversary to be your student/teacher, then both learn and great love/light become manifest.
"But I would ask then, the fifth-density entity in coming here to offer us service as you mentioned penetrated the quarantine. Was this done through one of the windows or was this because of his, shall I say, magical ability?"
As Ra was certainly expressing 5th density energy in contacting/being contacted by the group, and the contact was accelerating their manifestation of lessons/distortions at a very very very rapid rate, Ra could be the 'negative' entity. It is disconnection from the societal/social group that allows the greatest negative attack, so I see this outcome as likely. Is Ra not all things?
(P.S. Ra would express that the contact became negative as soon as the group sought information faster than could be conceivably balanced)
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - tamaryn - 02-23-2018
6d is unity, devotion solely to the space holding incarnational existence & seeing the big picture
STS deals with the raw force
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - tamaryn - 02-23-2018
Their imperative on that level is 99% non-action to remain in the expansive emptiness.
Their service this time around was likely for that remaining 1% of service to bring forth the Ra material.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Plenum - 02-23-2018
(02-22-2018, 01:08 AM)Infinite Wrote: Why the free will is so important at the point of Ra have done nothing against the Orion''s entity?
well, given Ra's understanding of Cosmology, Free Will/The Law of Confusion is actually the very first distortion. So it's the primal mover.
If one thinks their understandings are correct, then there could be no more important consideration, when it comes to respectful interactions.
I think from our perspective, there could be accusations of callousness, not-caring, indifference, objectivity to a fault, washing one's hands of suffering. I mean, after all, a whole planet was blown up out of respect for entities to do what they will, with their chosen experience.
With the Veil, and not seeing all the motions at play, I think it's easy to be judgemental, and think that not enough is being done.
Of course, at the end of the day, it's an interpretative experience that we all have, and we all have the right to make whatever assessment that we think fits our overall worldview.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - Minyatur - 02-23-2018
On what basis do you think that those of Ra identify more the group as their other-selves than the negative entity as other-self?
I think if they did what you said then they'd have lost any credibility in calling themselves humble messengers of the Law of One. Teach/learning the Law of One is what they said was the reason they even have been interacting with this planet.
(02-23-2018, 03:44 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: I think from our perspective, there could be accusations of callousness, not-caring, indifference, objectivity to a fault, washing one's hands of suffering. I mean, after all, a whole planet was blown up out of respect for entities to do what they will, with their chosen experience.
With the Veil, and not seeing all the motions at play, I think it's easy to be judgemental, and think that not enough is being done.
Quote:Balance is not indifference but rather the observer not blinded by any feelings of separation but rather fully imbued with love.
Guess they said this because the two can be easily mixed from our perspective.
RE: Why Ra didn't stop the Orion's entity? - kycahi - 02-26-2018
Amazingly good answers here. I've stayed away too long!
I just will add that L/L produced a huge volume of good information for people like us to grok. Maybe Don's higher self decided that they accomplished way enough good and pulled his plug to give him his reward, whatever that might be. At the least he and Carla returned to their SMC in time-space.