Quote:XVII. The Star pg. 111
“I give unimaginable joys on earth: certainty, not faith, while in life, upon death: peace unutterable, rest, ecstasy; nor do I demand aught in sacrifice.”

Pg. 97
“Pity not the fallen! I never knew them. I am not for them. I console not: I hate the consoles and the consoler.”

The entire chapter on XI. Lust. (The Scarlet Women is the whore of Babylon riding upon the beast.) [read Chapters XIII, XVII, XVIII of the Apocolypse (Revelation) in relation to the below quote.]
“Now ye shall know that the chosen priest and apostle of infinite space is the prince-priest the Beast; and in his woman called the Scarlet Women all power is given. They shall gather my children into their fold; they shall bring the glory of the stars into the hearts of men...”

Quote:18.10 Questioner: I see. The entity Aleister Crowley wrote “Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law.” He was obviously in understanding, to some extent, of the Law of One. Where is this entity now?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity is within your inner planes. This entity is in an healing process.

18.11 Questioner: Did this entity, then, even though he intellectually understood the Law of One, misuse it and therefore have to go through this healing process?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity became, may we use the vibration sound complex, overstimulated with the true nature of things. This over-stimulation resulted in behavior that was beyond the conscious control of the entity. The entity thus, in many attempts to go through the process of balancing, as we have described the various energy centers beginning with the red ray and moving upwards, became somewhat overly impressed or caught up in this process and became alienated from other-selves. This entity was positive. However, its journey was difficult due to the inability to use, synthesize, and harmonize the understandings of the desires of self so that it might have shared, in full compassion, with other-selves. This entity thus became very unhealthy, as you may call it, in a spiritual complex manner, and it is necessary for those with this type of distortion towards inner pain to be nurtured in the inner planes until such an entity is capable of viewing the experiences again with the lack of distortion towards pain.

(01-25-2018, 09:35 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: What do you think about this? Is Crowley LHP to you? What do you think of the Book of the Law and Aiwass? Or the O.T.O. For that matter? (I already know the OTO is left hand path order.)
Do you have any advice or suggestions to study the Tarot from a positive, preferably Qabalistic, approach? I hear the Book of Tokens is a really good one to meditate upon.

Quote:76.9 Questioner: Is there, in Ra’s opinion, any present-day value for the reuse of the tarot as an aid in the evolutionary process?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall repeat information. It is appropriate to study one form of constructed and organized distortion of the archetypical mind in depth in order to arrive at the position of being able to become and to experience archetypes at will. You have three basic choices. You may choose astrology, the twelve signs, as you call these portions of your planet’s energy web, and what has been called the ten planets. You may choose the tarot with its twenty-two so-called Major Arcana. You may choose the study of the so-called Tree of Life with its ten Sephiroth and the twenty-two relationships between the stations.

It is well to investigate each discipline, not as a dilettante, but as one who seeks the touchstone, one who wishes to feel the pull of the magnet. One of these studies will be more attractive to the seeker. Let the seeker then investigate the archetypical mind using, basically, one of these three disciplines. After a period of study, the discipline mastered sufficiently, the seeker may then complete the more important step: that is, the moving beyond the written in order to express in an unique fashion its understanding, if you may again pardon the noun, of the archetypical mind.

(01-25-2018, 01:59 PM)anagogy Wrote: But then I think Qabala as a whole is mostly LHP to begin with.

/.../

This is a long winded way of saying Qabala isn't for me, personally. Kabbalah, on the other hand, I'm still very much into.

(01-26-2018, 04:04 AM)loostudent Wrote:

(01-25-2018, 01:59 PM)anagogy Wrote: But then I think Qabala as a whole is mostly LHP to begin with.

/.../

This is a long winded way of saying Qabala isn't for me, personally. Kabbalah, on the other hand, I'm still very much into.

What about the third option - Cabala? Any experience?

(01-26-2018, 04:34 AM)anagogy Wrote: Cabala has some insights to offer, such as the notion of Tiphareth being the representation of incarnate Jesus. I felt some inner resonance with that, keeping in mind that the Jesus story is not new. It's a tale as old as time. It is a powerful archetypal story.

(01-26-2018, 03:07 AM)Aion Wrote: When it comes to Crowley you have to look a lot at his anti-Christian attitude and through that you can see how many of the symbols of Thelema took shape. It was also likely something of a slap in the face to the Golden Dawn since he knowingly inverted and twisted the meanings of numerous symbols they uused

(01-26-2018, 07:52 AM)loostudent Wrote: The truth is these comparrisons are just a falsification of truth, spreaded by Zeitgeist, Dan Brown etc. A fallacy repeated many times. There is no such correspondence. However I acknowledge archetypes in stories and myths. They are universal and don't have to be literal or copied. Similarly Ra said about archetypes and densities: "The relationship is tangential in that no congruency may be seen. However, the progress through the archetypes has some of the characteristics of the progress through the densities. These relationships may be viewed without being, shall we say, pasted one upon the other."

(01-26-2018, 07:52 AM)loostudent Wrote: Regarding Kabbalah, Cabala and Qabala. Kabbalah is a part of the Jewish tradition. As I understand you have to completely accept Judaism to really study the Kabbalah. Cabala is a Christian rendering and Qabala is further rendering by occultists. I don't know if this combinations were just pasted even though Christianity and Judaism are closely related.

(01-26-2018, 07:52 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Another random question... what is an ipsissimus? Ra has said in the LOO that it is an adept who has mastered the Tree of Life on the negative path. Therefore it would be a secret grade. Dion Fortune mentioned it in her book but not in a negative way, but as the highest grade in initiation on the Tree of Life.

Quote:So, while it is true that the attainment of the kind of focused service-to-self orientation very often does begin by working on negative emotions by honing the fine edge of hate, so to speak, it is not generally a manifest phenomenon that these emotions, in their expression, are associated with the individuals in question. Having said that, we will say that there are such individuals. And, having said that, we will also say that the presence of such individuals in a planet which is attempting to achieve harvestable quality of being into fourth density does constitute a real challenge, and is an element in the confusion generally observed in your social energy complex at this time. In fact, we would go one step further, and say that it is a rather significant element in that confusion. What makes it particularly difficult is that it is not always clear (in fact, ultimately it is never clear to any other entity) what the underlying polarity of its fellow citizens might be. And, it is very easy, therefore, to deceive others with regard to one’s intentions; and it is very easy to make a presentation of oneself such that others are drawn into the orbit of the service to self, or Ipsissimus adept, [5] who seeks harvestable quality of its being on the negative path.

(01-26-2018, 07:44 PM)Spaced Wrote: Ipsissimus is the highest grade in the Golden Dawn system, but I think most agree that it's not attainable in life.

Crowley's A∴A∴ uses the same grade system and I think they claim it is attainable.

Quote:42.16 Questioner: I had one experience in meditation which I spoke of before which was very profound approximately twenty years ago, a little less. What disciplines would be most applicable to re-create this situation and this type of experience?

Ra: I am Ra. Your experience would best be approached from the ceremonial magical stance. However, the Wanderer or adept shall have the far greater potential for this type of experience which, as you have undoubtedly analyzed to be the case, is one of an archetypal nature, one belonging to the roots of cosmic consciousness.

42.17 Questioner: Was that in any way related to the Golden Dawn in ceremonial magic?

Ra: I am Ra. The relationship was congruency.

42.18 Questioner: Then in attempting to reproduce this experience would I then best follow practices for the Order of the Golden Dawn in reproducing this?

Ra: I am Ra. To attempt to reproduce an initiatory experience is to move, shall we say, backwards. However, the practice of this form of service to others is appropriate in your case working with your associates. It is not well for positively polarized entities to work singly. The reasons for this are obvious.

(01-26-2018, 10:08 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: @Spaced, yes I am going to finish the book as well. I figured there would still be useful information regarding the minor arcana cards. I feel that I can sort through the negative symbolism and philosophy with the Major Arcana.

@Aion, thank you for responding! I was hoping to hear from you. Yeah I think committing to one form of the study of the archetypal mind would be best. I’m not trying to mix Ra’s system of Tarot with the Tree of Life.

With the study of Ra’s system of tarot, the first seven have started flowing into each other. I take that to be a good sign. I have a LOT to learn. But I am willing. However long it shall take.

As a side note, I’m seeing a lot of different spellings for Qabalah. I spell it that way. I assume the spellings are interchangeable because ‘Qabalah’ is a hebrew word and people spell the translation differently. I don’t know that there’s a difference in systems. The only differences I recognize with Qabalah is that it can used for the Left- or Right Hand Paths. Correct me if I am wrong please.

Another random question... what is an ipsissimus? Ra has said in the LOO that it is an adept who has mastered the Tree of Life on the negative path. Therefore it would be a secret grade. Dion Fortune mentioned it in her book but not in a negative way, but as the highest grade in initiation on the Tree of Life.

Quote:So you have a blueprint (astrology, tarot, tree of life) and then you take that system and the series of imagery that it evokes internally, and mediate and reflect and build upon it. Slowly the picture unfolds - or maybe it's a sheet of music? Anyway, in this way you train your subconscious to reach for this information, to intuit from your deeper and infinite self, and it will definitely reward you, with sincere effort. I don't think it matters which system you use - I love the Law of One and the imagery of the tarot sings to me infinitely - but I do think it is important to stick with one and focus upon it, and not try to balance understanding between all three schools or even two.

(01-26-2018, 06:41 PM)anagogy Wrote: This is correct, except that I don't believe you have to completely accept Judaism to study Kabbalah, anymore than you have to completely accept Ra to study the archetypal system they presented. I think that's basically just dogma. If the knowledge is available (in books, in people, the internet as a whole), then you can study it with no problem whatsoever.

(01-27-2018, 10:14 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Thank you all for your helpful and illuminating responses! I see the difference between the different systems behind the different spellings of ’Qabalah’. I’ve always been interested in the Western occult esoteric tradition of qabalah, which is why I spell it that way, I suppose. But now I know that they are not interchangeable and that there are differences.

Aion’s explanation of ipsissimus totally makes sense. There’s the grade belonging to the Thelemic school and then the Golden Dawn grade, which I am sure Dion Fortune was referring to. She had also mentioned that true Ascended Masters are not incarnate in the physical. They may be considered masters within the incarnation but she said she doesn’t recognize a true ascended master unless he is without a physical body. (Also consider the Buddhist grades of enlightenment. There is a level with complete and perfect enlightenment “with remainder” I.e. the arahants still incarnate in physical bodies.)

The next books on Qabalah I plan to read are Israel Regardie’s books. I read the Tree of Life when I was like 17, but don’t remember much of it. A Garden of Pomegranates looks like it’s be good.

Quote:So you have a blueprint (astrology, tarot, tree of life) and then you take that system and the series of imagery that it evokes internally, and mediate and reflect and build upon it. Slowly the picture unfolds - or maybe it's a sheet of music? Anyway, in this way you train your subconscious to reach for this information, to intuit from your deeper and infinite self, and it will definitely reward you, with sincere effort. I don't think it matters which system you use - I love the Law of One and the imagery of the tarot sings to me infinitely - but I do think it is important to stick with one and focus upon it, and not try to balance understanding between all three schools or even two.

@Jade, yes! I totally agree. I don’t think I’m going to use Crowley’s tarot cards for meditation. Too much negativity. But the Tree of Life incorporates the tarot and astrology. Each card is assigned a hebrew letter, and a zodiac, element, or planet is assigned to each card, and these can further illuminate the card. But all of this is already included within the Tree of Life. I feel the magnetic pull that Ra talked about in regard to the three systems with the Tree of Life. I had been interested in it before I found the Law of One.

(01-27-2018, 12:32 AM)Spaced Wrote: Hey Aion, thanks for your posts. I've been interested in that section about Don and the Golden Dawn lately. I imagine he must have read up on them (maybe through Israel Regardie's book?) prior to the Ra contact and the idea that he had an initiatory experience during meditation is quite interesting. I've been wondering if the Ra contact would have been possible without him having gone through that initiatory experience.

(01-27-2018, 11:17 AM)loostudent Wrote: Original Kabbalah is an integral part of the Jewish tradition. This is the study of inner dimensions of Torah. Maybe you don't have to be Jewish but it makes sense that observances and knowledge of Jewish Law are prerequisite. Some also say you need a teacher to guide you.

(01-27-2018, 01:29 PM)loostudent Wrote: Ra sometimes mentioned the four classic elements: fire, water, air and earth. This concepts look simpler than other systems. Is there any value in studying this?

(01-29-2018, 10:01 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: I actually have Manly P. Hall’s “Secret Teachings of All Ages”! I haven’t read it in a while, so I’ll look through it again.

I’ve not been too attracted to Theosophy, but I think reading the “Secret Doctrine” and “Isis Unveiled” would be well to do.

I’ve been feeling quite inspired and motivated this year ever since I read Fortune’s book. And I actually bought it because I became inspired to do so. I was thinking of a good book to read and then “The Mystical Qabalah” popped into my head and I said “perfect”.  

Thank you again! I very much appreciate it

(01-28-2018, 01:49 AM)anagogy Wrote: Yes, there is extreme value to be found here. In fact, deeply understanding the elements is precisely the key to unlocking the gateways of the tree of life.

(01-28-2018, 09:43 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: Something interesting to contemplate that I got from Fortune’s book: air as negative fire, and earth as negative water (which is also a good way to remember the alchemical symbols for the elements).

Quote:These four Elements are said to be the Earth, Air, Fire, and Water of the Wise - that is to say, four types of activity. They are represented in notation of esoteric science by four different types of triangle. Fire is represented by a triangle upwards; Air by a similar triangle with a bar across it, thus indicating that Air may be esteemed as akin in nature to Fire, but denser. In fact, we should not go far wrong if we called Air, Negative Fire, or Fire, Positive Air. Water is represented by a triangle point downwards, and Earth by the same triangle with a bar across it; and to these two symbols the same principles apply as to their predecessors.

Supposing, then, we consider the Fire triangle as representing unconditioned force and the Air triangle representing conditional force, the Earth triangle as representing totally inert form and the Water triangle as representing an active type of form, we have another mode of classification available. In the most ancient myths, the air, or space-god, is the parent of the sun, celestial fire, and water is the matrix of earth. This comes out clearly on the Central Pillar of the Tree of Life, where Kether, space, overshadows Tiphareth, the sun centre, and the watery Yesod, the moon-centre, overshadows the earthly Malkuth.