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Power over others - Cainite - 12-28-2017
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RE: Power over others - Minyatur - 12-28-2017
I erased about what I first wrote, which was a bit lengthy, to instead go with questions!
Why were you taking morphine?
Why did you decide to be on a break at this moment?
Acceptance is pretty much key to everything upon the positive path, after some time you gotta hunt for the things which you unconsciously still wouldn't find to accept and dim your spirit. Karma is a wheel and we're all the same thing and you see yourself receiving a karma and containing it until it mutates into a poison so potent and powerful you cannot cannot hold it and release it on an external self to that the energy may find to be healed. It's a wheel.
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Writing about archetypes in another thread at the moment made me think it'd be worth saying that what I described above is why the wheel of karma is the catalyst of body. No energy is yours really, we're living with the Earth as a body and energy moves and moves through people. How the energy mutates within the blockages of an emotional body until it is too great to be contained and is shared, is literally because you are one body with them and karma is shared from yourself with yourself because you are one spirit. Everything has a cause and effect and faith in this knowing is a great healer in itself and there's a work of aligning with it, otherwise there's the work of realizing why it is that in the sincerity of you you rather feel the way you feel about things than let go of it and perceive the same things a new and more healthy way. Everyone holds the power to alleviate the traumatic energy, but only those who will will succeed to not pass the joint karma. Hate for one's own inability to heal the self may be the greatest impediment to collective healing, as it mutates energy into the object of the hate's focus, which is a person unable to heal the energy that it has absorbed from without.
RE: Power over others - Cainite - 12-29-2017
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RE: Power over others - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 12-29-2017
Don't give up no matter what. The pain of withdrawal is temporary, it WILL pass, the true struggle begins then, to stay off the stuff and keep off of it.
You've taken a TREMENDOUS step, I say to you, you're doing good. Don't be afraid to admit that to yourself, that you're doing good, for yourself. Even if selfish, sometimes we need to be selfish for ourselves, for our long-term good.
Good job, buddy, bear with it, things will get better.
RE: Power over others - rva_jeremy - 12-29-2017
You are correct to beware of flattery. Remember why you're doing what you're doing, as you are doing. You can't get sober for anybody but yourself.
RE: Power over others - Cainite - 12-29-2017
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RE: Power over others - Glow - 12-29-2017
(12-28-2017, 05:43 PM)Cainite Wrote: Hi everyone.Just want to say good job. Big hug. I've never been on morphine but had 2 or 3 days of another narcotic for an injury and while I thoroughly enjoyed those two days I just knew I'd be screwed if I didn't stop immediate after finding out they were a narcotic.
It's the fifth day of me quitting morphine and it's not really enjoyable. day 3 was the peak.. I survived that by reading inspirational material all day/night in misery and pain, but faith kept me going. so I'm going to survive the rest of the withdrawal days.
I have realized a part of me wants to tower above others. maybe because of growing up in a harsh reality.
Somethings tell me that it is wise to completely destroy some people for example (by words I mean) to protect/honor others or self.
My doctor today told me that I'm superior and stuff like that. that's all everyone tells me when they find out I am an addict. the psychologist said the same thing in the other room. they think addicts are garbage and I shouldn't be one of them and it's strange that I am.
So anyway, I think the devil is feeding my ego through people as well. I don't like to be what I hate most..
These may relate to the issues with acceptance of self..the shadow side.. I don't know I've been awake a lot recently.. very little sleep..
As it was after 2 or 3 days(I was high as f who knows
) withdrawal was no sleep for 4 days and an inside out itch, even my inner eye lids and roof of my mouth itched. I can see both how one would think they were useful (though extremely not because they own you) and also how incredibly hard it must be to stop using them after an extended period.No judgement I remember my husband coming home and I told him "everyone should be on these every day" because the entire day had been so great, then he broke it to me they were "hillbilly heroine" OH, CRAP!!
Anyways I get you about not wanting to be seen as superior. It is yet another trap. Most people fall for that. The same as looking down on "addicts" good god do we always have to be elevating ourselves or devaluing another. So weird, though recently I have noticed I take that to far. If everyone is beautiful and incredibly special so am I, so are you. Remember that.
Glad you are holding on.
RE: Power over others - Night Owl - 12-30-2017
(12-28-2017, 05:43 PM)Cainite Wrote: Hi everyone.
It's the fifth day of me quitting morphine and it's not really enjoyable. day 3 was the peak.. I survived that by reading inspirational material all day/night in misery and pain, but faith kept me going. so I'm going to survive the rest of the withdrawal days.
I have realized a part of me wants to tower above others. maybe because of growing up in a harsh reality.
Somethings tell me that it is wise to completely destroy some people for example (by words I mean) to protect/honor others or self.
My doctor today told me that I'm superior and stuff like that. that's all everyone tells me when they find out I am an addict. the psychologist said the same thing in the other room. they think addicts are garbage and I shouldn't be one of them and it's strange that I am.
So anyway, I think the devil is feeding my ego through people as well. I don't like to be what I hate most..
These may relate to the issues with acceptance of self..the shadow side.. I don't know I've been awake a lot recently.. very little sleep..
You can't serve others without serving yourself my friend, maybe this is why you have a hard time allowing yourself a little slack. No matter what you do to yourself and to others, you are doing it to yourself first and foremost. If you take power over others, you are simultaneously doing it over yourself. It's a good thought to want to serve others, but by wanting to serve them 'more' than yourself, there is already power included in the relationship by thinking there needs to be more of one than the other.
The most 'power'ful way to execute service to others is to serve yourself. They are one and the same. For that, there is no need for power in both relationship between you and yourself and you and others. This relationship is the same. Serving yourself doesn't mean serving yourself over others. You can't be good to others without being good to yourself first. We learn it the hard way, but everything we do and think starts with the self. There is also no better way to serve yourself than to serve others. You see it's all about balance between the two. Power just means there is an imbalance between the two sides.
RE: Power over others - Cainite - 12-30-2017
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RE: Power over others - Night Owl - 12-30-2017
(12-30-2017, 05:04 AM)Cainite Wrote: I have difficulty believing that everyone's me. we may be one in spirit but personalities differ.. and personality is what I mostly see..
Well on a certain level, they are, but that's not what I am refering to. When we interact with other people, we think we interact with them on a litteral level, but actually we interact with our impressions of them, the abstraction we are able to build out of physical appearance, their speech and things we can quickly grasp. These things tends to speak more of ourselves than they speak of them. We interact with the energy that belongs to us, to the extent they are also able to reflect it. When you want to destroy someone, sure there is this external completely seperate person you might destroy, but the energy you are in conflict with is yours. By destroying that person you would be destroying the part of you that is reflected in them. So there is no need to take this 'all is one' thing litteraly to understand this. What you might not accept in these people, you have not accepted in yourself first, that is why they trigger a certain anger. There's no denying that by destroying them, you would be destroying them too, that's for sure, but you can't do it without exercising this control over yourself.
RE: Power over others - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 12-31-2017
Haha, everyone is me, oh man, that's a terrifying thought. If I might offer a nuanced view of this opinion. Everyone is not everyone else, but we all belong to The Creator, however that doesn't mean we all belong to each other as no single one of us is That One Creator, rather we are Sparks of the Sun, Drops of the Ocean, the Ocean can become a drop, the sun can become a spark, but it takes time for those to return once again to the Whole that spawned them. Along the way that completeness is with us.
So in a sense we should be careful not to inflate ourselves as Thee Creator and not as belonging to the creator, as we all do and are belonging, but not one of us IS the Big One (Unless one of you is secretly the Big One hmmhm?!)
Anyways, you've got some good discernment. We are all unique aspects, it is this uniqueness that both joins and separates us for we're all unique, making us similar despite also making us different. A paradox.