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Michael Newton vs Law of One - The Traveler - 09-21-2017
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for insight regarding Michael Newton's books "Journey of Souls" and "Destiny of Souls" and how it compares/relates to information in The Law of One.
In Michael Newton's books he regresses many people over the years and we are able to learn about life back home (in the spirit world). We learn that Souls choose their assignments and aren't forced to incarnate at all. They can remain in spirit and continue their studies but at a much slower rate (which makes sense to me). Reading his books I get a good sense of Free Will but I don't get that same feeling from The Law of One.
I'm not really sure how to put this but sometimes The Law of One seems "cold" to me and I don't really get a sense of Free Will from it, gosh I don't know how to explain it but I hope someone here can catch my drift.
69.6 Ra: the death by suicide causing the necessity for much healing work and, shall we say, the making of a dedication to the third density for the renewed opportunity of learning the lessons set by the higher self.
"Making of a dedication"? and "learning the lessons set by the higher self"? That doesn't sound like Free Will to me or maybe I'm not understanding?
Another thing, The Law of One speaks of walking the Steps of Light but nowhere in Michael Newton's books do the regressed souls speak of this, there are however souls that attend a "Graduation Party" where they arrive back home in the spirit world and their friends throw a party cause they are moving up in development. He notes that souls have different colours based on their development so young souls will be white and the very advanced ones will be from blue to violet and most of the time souls groups are mixed where you will have young and advanced together, like there is no sense of seperation and everyone can see each other. But then in The Law of One it sounds like if you dont graduate to to 4th Density then your f#cked and have to repeat.
Is Michael Newton's books utter rubbish or is The Law of One focusing on something else??
Hope someone can shed some light on this.
Here is a picture of the colours of soul development:
![[Image: soul-age-colours-3-500.jpg]](http://personalityspirituality.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/soul-age-colours-3-500.jpg)
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Stranger - 09-21-2017
Hi Traveler,
I have great affection for both LOO and Michael Newton's work, so I can respond.
The Universe we inhabit is vast and complex, and naturally different sources will focus more on different aspects of it. I find these two works complementary and without conflict with each other.
Regarding free will: this can be hard to grasp, but there is only one consciousness in existence. That one consciousness decided to find out what it would be like to have a variety of different experiences, and that this would best be accomplished by forgetting its true identity for a while. But make no mistake: the consciousness you call your own is God's consciousness, enjoying the opportunity to experience fully pretending to be "The Traveler" for a little while - with that experience uncontaminated by memories of being God.
Therefore God creates the experiences he wants to have for himself, and then explores them. He created the video game and now he's playing it. But, to take this metaphor further, it's so immersive that he starts to think that he is actually the video game character and the world of the game is real, and then sometimes complains that the levels are too difficult and not to his liking, etc.
The point is that God gets to do whatever he wants to do with his consciousness, even complain about himself. That's okay.
Within the context of Creation/Illusion, free will refers not to being able to do whatever you want, but to being able to choose how to react to whatever you're presented with.
At each level of stepping-down from the Logos to sub-Logos to sub-sub-Logos (i.e., human), more and more of the Creation is fixed by the higher levels, and free will has less room to play, so to speak. Yet that's as it should be, considering how much of a mess we've been making of our planet even with our limited range of motion, so to speak. As we learn more care - love and wisdom - we get more freedom also.
But still, at every level, it is only God who is both creating and experiencing the Creation. And his plan is that all his evolving forms must pass through the sequence of densities before returning home to full unity. Committing suicide probably places one hell of a blockage in the 1st chakra, requiring the entity to rededicate itself to finishing that level, even if it's challenging and uncomfortable. Similar to a high school student saying "this class is too hard, I'm going to stop coming for the rest of the year" - well, guess what? You still need to get through it to graduate.
Moving on to your comments on graduation - I think what Michael Newton describes is the general progression of souls, across densities, while Ra's steps of light describe one specific event that occurs at the conclusion of 3rd density evolution. It is a brief thing that happens after physical death, and only once for each entity at the end of 75,000 year cycle, which may be why Michael Newton's subjects haven't mentioned it. At the time Michael Newton's data were being collected, the harvest hadn't started yet on this planet. Regarding the "graduation parties" - I'm sure there is much to celebrate within each density as well, as the soul makes progress, and perhaps that is what Michael Newton's subjects are referring to.
Regarding the Law of One being "cold" - I think it's helpful to realize that we're listening to an entity who is more than 70 million years beyond our level of evolution (Q'uo mentioned 4D being 30 M years and 5D being 40 M years, if I recall). Ra is 6D close to graduation. So it's just mind-blowingly amazing that they are able to speak to us at all, if you think about it. If you think about the difference between rocks (1D) and animals (2D) and humans (3D), it really is a miracle that a 6D consciousness can communicate at our level. I wouldn't read too much into human perceptions of the tone. To me, Ra's tone is one of attempting utmost conceptual clarity.
If you read the messages from Q'uo, which includes 5D and 4D entities along with those of Ra, there is much more "warmth" and handholding there.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - The Traveler - 09-21-2017
(09-21-2017, 11:43 AM)Stranger Wrote: Within the context of Creation/Illusion, free will refers not to being able to do whatever you want, but to being able to choose how to react to whatever you're presented with.
That's not free will then. So are you implying that one should be okay with someone else planning a rather horrible life for them for the sake of "experience" or because "its actually fun but you just don't see that it is from down here"?
(09-21-2017, 11:43 AM)Stranger Wrote: And his plan is that all his evolving forms must pass through the sequence of densities before returning home to full unity.
What if I don't want to unite with the Creator, why can't I just be me? I don't want to be the Creator, I just want to be me. Do I have a choice in this or will unity be forced onto me in the end when the Creator wants all his pieces back?
You know I have never asked for much, all I ever wanted was freedom to be me, freedom to explore and travel interstellar space (but I know this part will never happen). Did you know Stranger that I never really forgot? That I always knew there was more? I guess the Veil of Forgetting didnt hit me as hard as it has others.
The more and more I go through this kind of information I begin to wonder who is this all for because it doesnt look like its for me/us. Try to imagine how I feel, to go through thousands of years of incarnations and abuse (which is what it is) to then have your personality diluted in unity in the end and you pretty much fade away. That sounds horrible. Logically when all the Creators pieces return to unity there will be only one personality/identity, all the other identities will be gone.
To be honest, and I dont want to alarm anyone here but, I have been contemplating suicide for a long time now. If everything I experience is for the Creator and not for me then what is the point? If unity is the end then how I get there is irrelevant because I wont have a choice anyway right?
I just want to be me
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - anagogy - 09-21-2017
(09-21-2017, 02:33 PM)The Traveler Wrote: The more and more I go through this kind of information I begin to wonder who is this all for because it doesnt look like its for me/us. Try to imagine how I feel, to go through thousands of years of incarnations and abuse (which is what it is) to then have your personality diluted in unity in the end and you pretty much fade away. That sounds horrible. Logically when all the Creators pieces return to unity there will be only one personality/identity, all the other identities will be gone.
To be honest, and I dont want to alarm anyone here but, I have been contemplating suicide for a long time now. If everything I experience is for the Creator and not for me then what is the point? If unity is the end then how I get there is irrelevant because I wont have a choice anyway right?
I just want to be me
We do have choice. But not unlimited free will. The amount of free will we have is directly proportionate to the amount of awareness we have. Incidentally, the experiences that awaken more consciousness are not necessarily "pleasant" experiences. They are often aversive. Pleasurable experiences are great and all, but they do little to potentiate more consciousness. The experiences that often result in the most character and spiritual growth are often traumatic. Pleasure lulls you to sleep, and pain wakes you up. This is the metaphysical underpinnings as to why your warm comfortable bed helps you stay asleep, but a splash of cold water to the face makes you more alert to your surroundings. Thus, the experiences of your incarnations are designed to increase your awareness, and sometimes within the latitude of free will you presently possess, via your current state of consciousness, you sometimes increase your "free will" by choices made during incarnation, and sometimes you decrease your free will by other choices (an accumulation of karma which lowers consciousness). For example, animals have less free will than the consciousness of a human, because they have a less broad awareness of the infinite array of choices. But then, it is not a simple formula of: maximum pain would wake up your consciousness. That would similarly retard consciousness. There has to be balance (the amount of karma, or "spiritual lessons", one is able to "take on" in a given life time). The cycles of pain and pleasure generally follow the principles of the sine wave, swinging back and forth, but even so, the cycles, though they are equal (though sometimes over multiple concurrent lifetimes), the pain is often more noticeable than the pleasure for the reasons I previously explained. This is why the matrix of the spirit (if you are familiar with the archetypes of the universal mind) is The Devil. Because the melody of the "playfield" of the spirit often seems dark or evil, just like if you place your somewhat cold hand on your much warmer body, the cold is still more noticeable because it is aversive, contrasting, and shocking.
So no one forces you to becomes ONE with all other souls. You can just be "you" for eternity if you so chose to. But I'm telling you, if you had even a slight whiff of oneness you would never want anything else for as long as you live. It doesn't make you less, it makes you more, in ways that are impossible to understand from our egoic state of consciousness. You are free to be "you" for as long as you want, in an eternal present.
tl;dr (the more conscious you become, the more free will you have -- this is what polarity is btw. Newton's books just frame it in different words that mean the same thing)
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Stranger - 09-21-2017
(09-21-2017, 02:33 PM)The Traveler Wrote:(09-21-2017, 11:43 AM)Stranger Wrote: Within the context of Creation/Illusion, free will refers not to being able to do whatever you want, but to being able to choose how to react to whatever you're presented with.
That's not free will then. So are you implying that one should be okay with someone else planning a rather horrible life for them for the sake of "experience" or because "its actually fun but you just don't see that it is from down here"?
There is no "someone else." YOU wanted to be here, knowing that you'd forget why you did, and knowing also that you would probably not find this a fun ride. Still, you are not here by accident. You are here by choice. Yours, prior to the forgetting.
Imagine that a friend of yours named Bob is offered an opportunity to test drive an amazing new technology: a fully immersive video game. It's hyper realistic and challenging, so much so that Bob will even come to think that's he's the character he's playing for a while, but no worries - it'll end shortly and then he'll be back to remembering who he is and the game. Bob thinks, "wow, that's cool! I really want to do it!" and signs up. But once he gets into the game and it gets kinda tricky, he starts complaining, "I hate this! This is not fair! Who did this to me?" -- What's the answer?
(09-21-2017, 02:33 PM)The Traveler Wrote:(09-21-2017, 11:43 AM)Stranger Wrote: And his plan is that all his evolving forms must pass through the sequence of densities before returning home to full unity.
What if I don't want to unite with the Creator, why can't I just be me? I don't want to be the Creator, I just want to be me. Do I have a choice in this or will unity be forced onto me in the end when the Creator wants all his pieces back?
You can be you for as long as you want, as anagogy said. The Creator is also you, and he let himself-as-you have free will. Spend eternity exploring the Universe if you wish. That's up to you.
(09-21-2017, 02:33 PM)The Traveler Wrote: You know I have never asked for much, all I ever wanted was freedom to be me, freedom to explore and travel interstellar space (but I know this part will never happen). Did you know Stranger that I never really forgot? That I always knew there was more? I guess the Veil of Forgetting didnt hit me as hard as it has others.
Traveler, what I get from your message is how unhappy you are. Q'uo explains that 3D involves some unhappiness as a motivation to seek the Light which has been hidden. The flip side of that is that once you find the Light, it's possible to be very happy in 3D. As the saying goes, "It's better to turn on the Light than to curse the darkness." Perhaps there's something to that?
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - auntiemable - 09-21-2017
"learning the lessons set by the higher self"? That doesn't sound like Free Will to me or maybe I'm not understanding?
If you consider that your higher self IS you, albeit more advanced/enlightened than you are now, it seems to me that Free Will is intact here. You, as your more advanced being, provide lessons that need to be learned based on what you know of yourself in the future. That future knowingness is rarely available to us as veiled 3D beings, but I would like to think that my future self (higher self) would only set lessons that would benefit me in the long run.
As far as "I just want to be me", that is your ego talking and yours appears particularly strong. It is a survival mechanism that you will shed upon the death of your physical body. You can be you, as your ego sees it, for this entire incarnation however long that will be. But, I have a feeling that once you return to the spirit world, that need to be "you" will be a distant memory. So, be "you" while you are on this planet in the here and now, enjoy it, be happy and joyful in it. There is nothing wrong with that.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Sacred Fool - 09-21-2017
This may well be too abstract to be useful, but I'll toss it out on the screen anyhow.
Who is this "me" you speak of? Is it the same thing you thought it was when it was four years old? Is it the same thing it was before it was born?
How much of that "me" is not yours, but just borrowed? That body, maybe, the personality? How much is just a convenient construct rather than really being "yours?"
The way this being sees it, the Ra Material can be a partial guidebook for searching more deeply into who you really are. The not-so-surprising ending is that.....way down the line....there are no more questions nor answers, simply being. But why skip to the ending, you'll miss all that good stuff in the middle!
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - The Traveler - 09-22-2017
I don't feel any better but thank you all for taking the time to respond,
I do appreciate it.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Stranger - 09-22-2017
(09-22-2017, 06:09 AM)The Traveler Wrote: I don't feel any better but thank you all for taking the time to respond,
I do appreciate it.
Traveler, if you're not feeling happy, it simply indicates the presence of disharmony within you.
It is only up to you to heal this disharmony. No one else can do it for you (although you can ask the higher beings for help). That is your free will.
All disharmony is healed with love. This is a universal law.
If you were to have consistent love for yourself and everything around you, you would be filled with bliss.
~~~
At present, based on what you've said here, you have chosen to view the best parts of yourself as your enemy, as someone who impinges upon you and forces you to do things against your wishes (I refer to God and even your pre-incarnational, larger Self).
Therefore, you are in conflict and turmoil.
~~~
Now, how to find love is a separate, longer topic. There are many ways for it is everywhere, just under the surface. Certainly give up the victim mentality that creates a state of war inside you. There are no victims and you have chosen this challenge. You wouldn't have done so if you thought you couldn't handle it successfully. You can! But the first step is stop complaining and start acting. Others will have their suggestions - here are mine.
Give up the victim mentality, roll up your sleeves and get to work on becoming more loving to yourself and the entire Creation around you. "Loving" means simply: kind, caring and compassionate.
Meditate daily.
Notice your thoughts, and begin becoming your own best friend. As soon as a self-critical or upsetting thought arises, find love for yourself. Think of what you'd say to a dear friend who was upset, how you'd feel towards him/her, and act that way toward yourself. Give up the need to put pressure on yourself, punish yourself, be harsh with yourself for perceived faults or limitations. Just be there for you, unconditionally, as a true supportive friend.
Love the beauty of nature around you. Appreciate the trees, flowers, birds and animals, the innocence and playfulness of children, etc. Any moment you spend loving what's around you is a moment you are accumulating happiness inside.
Find compassion (a form of love) even toward people who piss you off. They're unhappy too. Wish them well.
Other approaches that have helped me, significantly:
Chant the Gayatri mantra.
Reach out to the Father who loves you regardless of anything, absolutely. Chant the Lord's Prayer with love in your heart.
Fast, while keeping your mind on the highest and purest thoughts, doing your best to maintain a loving state and meditating, while abstaining from anything that produces negative emotions like the TV, the news, porn/sex, etc.
The logic of these is very simple: when we focus on something, we tune into it. By focusing and reaching out toward the highest, most loving vibrations, you tune yourself into them. As stepping into a hot tub warms you up, so does reaching toward the highest let you soak it up into yourself.
Fasting complements this by allowing you to dump out of your being old accumulated negativity and discord.
Remember that your emotional state is simply the sum total of the choices you've made, so far, about how to relate to yourself and the world around you. Different choices = different feelings.
Lots of love and good luck to you, friend.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Stranger - 09-22-2017
I also highly recommend Michael Singer's books "The Surrender Experiment" and "The Untethered Soul" for a very practical approach to becoming unconditionally happy.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Glow - 09-22-2017
I just want to hug you all. I loved all these replies. Its nice to be home with you in remembering and understanding.
Traveler just be patient with yourself. Life is very hard. Understanding comes slowly.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Plenum - 09-22-2017
(09-21-2017, 10:39 AM)The Traveler Wrote: Is Michael Newton's books utter rubbish or is The Law of One focusing on something else??
I've been open to various kinds of literature - including the metaphysical side of things - since I left high school. It was definitely a more 'intensive' investigation in the earlier part of things, compared to now, which is much more based in practice and experience.
But I've definitely read a lot, and still re-read some favourite works via kindle.
There is some material that really 'vibrates' within as being carefully done and reported. I would definitely put Michael Newton's work in that category: and the more so, as he's been able to reach a fairly wide audience, given the subject matter (I actually read his books in the late 1990's, after finding them in a mainstream bookstore).
I think he's done an immense service, in being able to expand the scope of the discussion, regards the nature of incarnation, etc.
In regards to perceived 'discrepancies' between what he has documented in his regressions, and what Ra conveyed in their answers, there are definitely personal ways to address those. But even before one can do that, one has to have a personal sense of what you're trying to 'reconcile'.
If Ra's answers don't vibe with you, then by all means, don't try to indoctrinate yourself into buying into them.
If you also vibe with the regressed/narrative method, the work of Dolores Cannon is also extremely intriguing. It's helped me expand my conception of how the 'forces' of former lives carry over into present ones. These 'forces' are sometimes given the label of 'karma'; but once you are able to unpack the nature of 'karma', it leaves one with a simple lesson: that of acceptance. And there's no better way to examine or study acceptance, than seeing it illustrated in vivid case studies.
Acceptance (much like love) becomes much more 'graspable' when it is seen in action: rather than being pinned down as a definitive word, or used in a context-free zone.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - The Traveler - 09-22-2017
Thank you Stranger for your words of encouragement. I researched that mantra that you suggested and I've memorized it by heart now, its quite a nice mantra
I found this on Youtube:
I also had a nap and I'm feeling a lot better now.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - The Traveler - 09-22-2017
(09-22-2017, 01:55 PM)Glow Wrote: Traveler just be patient with yourself. Life is very hard. Understanding comes slowly.
I know...I'm trying.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - The Traveler - 09-22-2017
(09-22-2017, 02:32 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:(09-21-2017, 10:39 AM)The Traveler Wrote: Is Michael Newton's books utter rubbish or is The Law of One focusing on something else??
I've been open to various kinds of literature - including the metaphysical side of things - since I left high school. It was definitely a more 'intensive' investigation in the earlier part of things, compared to now, which is much more based in practice and experience.
But I've definitely read a lot, and still re-read some favourite works via kindle.
There is some material that really 'vibrates' within as being carefully done and reported. I would definitely put Michael Newton's work in that category: and the more so, as he's been able to reach a fairly wide audience, given the subject matter (I actually read his books in the late 1990's, after finding them in a mainstream bookstore).
I think he's done an immense service, in being able to expand the scope of the discussion, regards the nature of incarnation, etc.
In regards to perceived 'discrepancies' between what he has documented in his regressions, and what Ra conveyed in their answers, there are definitely personal ways to address those. But even before one can do that, one has to have a personal sense of what you're trying to 'reconcile'.
If Ra's answers don't vibe with you, then by all means, don't try to indoctrinate yourself into buying into them.
If you also vibe with the regressed/narrative method, the work of Dolores Cannon is also extremely intriguing. It's helped me expand my conception of how the 'forces' of former lives carry over into present ones. These 'forces' are sometimes given the label of 'karma'; but once you are able to unpack the nature of 'karma', it leaves one with a simple lesson: that of acceptance. And there's no better way to examine or study acceptance, than seeing it illustrated in vivid case studies.
Acceptance (much like love) becomes much more 'graspable' when it is seen in action: rather than being pinned down as a definitive word, or used in a context-free zone.
The writings of Michael Newton have resonated with me but so did some stuff in the Law of One but I got confused and stuck cause although they both resonated, they were different. I hope everything in this life I have gone through is worth it in the end.
Thank you for your post.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Plenum - 09-22-2017
(09-22-2017, 02:43 PM)The Traveler Wrote: The writings of Michael Newton have resonated with me but so did some stuff in the Law of One but I got confused and stuck cause although they both resonated, they were different. I hope everything in this life I have gone through is worth it in the end.
Thank you for your post.
well, at the end of the day, I think we're all trying to find further 'clarity' in our lives.
there are certain 'baseline questions' which ring quite loudly in the minds of conscious seekers -
what am I doing here (in this life)? and
am I really fulfilled? (by what I am doing)
if you have 'answers' that you can live (and hence, also die by), then even very difficult circumstances suddenly become quite 'tolerable', as there is 'meaning' to it.
But it's definitely not easy to arrive at such a point of unshakable confidence in who you are. Especially if one is open-minded, and willing to hear all kinds of counter-opinions which have to be taken into account.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Verum Occultum - 09-22-2017
As I see it, Newton's books refer only to the inner planes of 3D.
As I see it, there can be many graduation parties that have more to do with sub-densities and sub-sub-densities rather than major densities.
As I see it, often those who are "far beyond" in terms of spiritual, intelligent and creative development are assigned to groups that are of much "lesser" development. This creates a good bit of contrast between student and teacher and then the teaching/learning can be very efficient. This does not mean that they are a part of the same original group mind/body/spirit complex.
As I see it, the Higher Self offers an amazing and super convincing plan to the young soul who may not yet know very well how to make efficient plans. There is always free will to reject the HS plan, but it is so good and loving that why reject it?
Re-discover, the HS is a more advanced version of thyself. Divinely so. Not a finished product, but the closest friend.
As I see it, your identity can only expand, you can only become more of yourself. Nothing is dissolved in unity. It is rather an integration. It is ALL THAT YOU HAVE EVER HOPED FOR AND MORE. This is fact.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Patrick - 09-22-2017
Your higher-self is not someone else. It's not another person making decisions for you.
You are your higher-self. You are just currently unaware of your whole self, by choice.
We may not remember, while incarnated here, why WE made the decisions we made, but WE made them.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 10-06-2017
If I could chime in?
Many of your issues, OP, reflect things I've picked up on.
For instance, Free Will is a paradox in the Law of One, we do have it to a degree, beyond that degree we don't have it because our Free Will stems from a (Higher) Source Free Will.
For instance in the Law of One Ra mentions how entities approaching the quarantine on our planet are hailed in the name of the creator, and will cease and desist as per the will of the creator. Don even questioned how that makes sense in relation to Free Will.
As for Michael Newton's works, I'd say they're within the scope of the inner 3D planes. Even his interviews on soul birth, how souls are birthed, actually sounds like Harvest and Higher Reincarnation information. Such as how some souls come really close to being birthed then seem to be aborted, in a way it sounded like some souls almost came close enough to being harvested and missed it (presumably 2D souls) And others had no problem at all (presumably higher density souls returning to 3D).
I think the overall Ra Material picture is skewed with a lot of generalized information on polarity. Most notably is how we make an assumption that souls stick mostly to one polarity. Some could argue that Wanderers have wandered through the light and darkness, and that polarity is not as left and right as it is described to be.
Or basically put some could argue the Ra Material is in some parts deceptive, others would argue in the light of its own information that its a kind of white and black magic text, and others are fine to not look into its confusing origins and just take the main message as is being that Love is the question, answer, equation, and solution, and everything else is an attempt to discern that love ever more deeply.
I find it interesting that the soul color chart corresponds closely to the chakra colors, mature/green/stage IV, old/blue/stage V, elder/indigo-violet/stage VI
And that these colors correspond to soul growth, and that on 3D Earth, a yellow ray arena so to speak, the goal is to utilize green energy in a yellow arena, essentially we're tasked to mature ourselves.
Its a curious array of information, i remember one interview where he pushed an older lady to recall her experience in a meditation as a soul on the creator, she was an elder soul apparently, and her response slowly was that the Creator was like a mother singing a lullaby to its child.
In many ways we're exploring the illusions of darkness here in this/these octave/s. At higher places it'd seem that darkness isn't even real.
Like Macbeth was a mere actor in a play, but his life, and experiences in darkness were so real, the point of his play reached the audience that was the observing light of the creator. His identity mattered more than anything else it seemed even if his actions were the main hook and sinker of his identity.
So, as per free will, rest assured that we do have it, but be ready to realize that our will is not absolute, it can be infringed, and it can be superseded.
Just as guides can put thoughts in our head as per their will, we can override those thoughts as per our will.
And just as the higher self respects our will, it is still the one stirring the stew that makes up our will.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Aion - 10-07-2017
They are both wrong and they are both right. They are distortions of consciousness. Why look to others to define reality for you? It's all a blank slate. It's up to you to define your experience and all the elements therein. There is no "you now" and "you the Creator", there is no separation. You already are the Creator, done deal, no need to worry about it. Just be you and that is all you need to do. That is already the accomplishment of Creation. Forget what everyone else says. Forget even what I say, unless you so choose to think it yourself. Experience is yours to describe and to define. Have at'er.
I have seen oodles of 'systems' pertaining to the afterlife, to soul progression, etc. So far what I have been convinced of is that we need a vehicle to progress but what that vehicle looks like is different for everyone. Even people who work with the same 'teachings' still never have the exact same journey or progression. Forget about trying to 'find' the box you're in. Just look at it, observe your experience and describe it from your own eyes. Nobody else can find the truth for you.
RE: Michael Newton vs Law of One - Ankh - 10-13-2017
(09-21-2017, 10:39 AM)The Traveler Wrote: Hi everyone,
I'm looking for insight regarding Michael Newton's books "Journey of Souls" and "Destiny of Souls" and how it compares/relates to information in The Law of One.
In Michael Newton's books he regresses many people over the years and we are able to learn about life back home (in the spirit world). We learn that Souls choose their assignments and aren't forced to incarnate at all. They can remain in spirit and continue their studies but at a much slower rate (which makes sense to me). Reading his books I get a good sense of Free Will but I don't get that same feeling from The Law of One.
I'm not really sure how to put this but sometimes The Law of One seems "cold" to me and I don't really get a sense of Free Will from it, gosh I don't know how to explain it but I hope someone here can catch my drift.
69.6 Ra: the death by suicide causing the necessity for much healing work and, shall we say, the making of a dedication to the third density for the renewed opportunity of learning the lessons set by the higher self.
"Making of a dedication"? and "learning the lessons set by the higher self"? That doesn't sound like Free Will to me or maybe I'm not understanding?
Another thing, The Law of One speaks of walking the Steps of Light but nowhere in Michael Newton's books do the regressed souls speak of this, there are however souls that attend a "Graduation Party" where they arrive back home in the spirit world and their friends throw a party cause they are moving up in development. He notes that souls have different colours based on their development so young souls will be white and the very advanced ones will be from blue to violet and most of the time souls groups are mixed where you will have young and advanced together, like there is no sense of seperation and everyone can see each other. But then in The Law of One it sounds like if you dont graduate to to 4th Density then your f#cked and have to repeat.
Is Michael Newton's books utter rubbish or is The Law of One focusing on something else??
Hope someone can shed some light on this.
Here is a picture of the colours of soul development:
I really loved Michael Newton's work, but for me, some parts didn't make sense compared to the Ra material. So, I guess that I'm in the same boat, but perhaps on another side of it?
Anyways, I thought about this same issue for a while after reading Michael Newton works couple of years ago, and then I arrived at this. On one hand, I really *loved and enjoyed* his work, but on the other hand, some parts of his work didn't make sense to me compared to the Ra material. How to integrate it? But then I got a thought that integrated it all, and that was that - creation is infinite. What doesn't resonate with me, is true for another self. Which means that not everything that is stated in the Ra material has to be true for you, and not everything which is stated in M.N's work has to be true for me. There are as many variations as there are teachings and books. That's why our positively oriented friends always tell us to take what resonates.
My point is to not take parts of Ra material which do not resonate with you, but instead to integrate those parts of Newton's work which do!