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What does service to self or others mean? - darklight - 07-22-2017 Quote:What does service to self or others mean? http://bigpicturequestions.com/what-does-service-to-self-or-others-mean/ RE: What does service to self or others mean? - GentleReckoning - 07-22-2017 Agreed. Service to God or the Divine solves all paradox. RE: What does service to self or others mean? - tamaryn - 07-22-2017 Remember that 100% Service to Self is a prerequisite for Service to Others. How can you be a full light unto others if you have not passed all the way through your shadow and maintained self love? How can you love others fully without fully loving yourself? It takes a ridiculous amount of self love to pass through the entirety of your shadow, and that shadow is just the perfect pointer for the refinement of self-love. I don't believe people should even toy with the concept of Service to others as an idea in their mind if they don't fully understand Service to Self. The concept of serving others should come after serving the self is consistently maintained. You always come first! And your light will always shine for others! RE: What does service to self or others mean? - AnthroHeart - 07-22-2017 I really only interact with my shadow self in my dreams. Last night it was a battle and I was a coward. It was also a little freaky at times. That's like 4th time I recall my shadow self frightening me. I think I can still polarize STO even if I haven't completely come to terms with my shadow. But in higher densities it becomes harder to face the shadow from what I've read. RE: What does service to self or others mean? - GentleReckoning - 07-22-2017 (07-22-2017, 01:17 PM)tamaryn Wrote: Remember that 100% Service to Self is a prerequisite for Service to Others. Agreed. In every way that you don't show love to yourself, you take it out on others. RE: What does service to self or others mean? - xise - 07-22-2017 Quote:Remember that 100% Service to Self is a prerequisite for Service to Others. People are confusing the phrases "service to others" and "service to self" as defined by Ra, because people are using the phrases literally instead of studying how Ra describes them. 100% service to others is not actually literally 100% serving other beings but not yourself 24/7. A better way to approach service to others is to understand the description of Ra and realize that service to others and service to self are configurations of love, and that service to others is unconditional love - all energy centers active and balanced (orange ray center governs self-love) - loving everything in the universe, including yourself. Service to self is self-only love - a conditional form of love involving a configuration with a nearly completely closed green and closed blue. If you describe service to others as only loving others and not the self, you are by definition are talking about conditional love -where the condition is loving anyone but yourself. Or to put another way, you're describing an energy configuration that has a nearly closed orange ray - which neither STO or STS go for. Thats why STO isn't literally serving others to exclusion of yourself, because that is a conditional form of love - STO is more properly understood as serving and loving all unconditionally. This link is a good start if you want to understand STO and STS definitions as Ra defines them without just taking the phrases "service to others" and "service to self" as literal phrases. They're labels, with specific meanings, not three word phrases that fully describe the philosophy - they are short-hand. http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=The+Two+Paths RE: What does service to self or others mean? - GentleReckoning - 07-22-2017 Then what is love? RE: What does service to self or others mean? - tamaryn - 07-22-2017 So i thought of an addition that may be pertinent to others... This is something I struggled a lot with in my life. That is how can I be of service to my self if I don't know where my self is. If everything arising in my awareness is totally dwarfing my sense of self/awareness - how am I to be of service. How am I even to focus on myself to maintain a center of consciousness? You are already the completion of any quality you could imagine - paradoxically. If you can intuit the Self consistently, you become consciously knowing and consciously connected with that quality which is alive and vibrant at the core of every bit of life. I think Service to Self and Service to Other would be more clearly be defined as Sense of Self. The Self is sensed in the Self, and the Self is sensed in Others and the Self is sensed in God and All. The service comes once the sense is very strong. Just get a sense of the one experiencing. Be strong in that sense. Pull it through your pain, do not fix your pain, it is indestructible. Your self has the capacity to welcome anything and everything, as long as you stay truthful and devoted to that. Times are changing and moving so rapidly, I feel its not important to heal exactly, because the pain itself is directing you toward that which is the Self! It is stripping you of all the ideas you have as yourself, that are deviations away from the eternal self that survives all. If you can muster the courage to stay as Yourself through everything. Stay centered. And trust that all that you need, and all the inspiration to do what you need to do will be born from that focus. Centered in your pain, and wishing it to heal away by some act can be very destructive. Thank you all. RE: What does service to self or others mean? - Diana - 07-22-2017 (07-22-2017, 06:08 PM)xise Wrote: A better way to approach service to others is to understand the description of Ra and realize that service to others and service to self are configurations of love, and that service to others is unconditional love - all energy centers active and balanced (orange ray center governs self-love) - loving everything in the universe, including yourself. Service to self is self-only love - a conditional form of love involving a configuration with a nearly completely closed green and closed blue. If you describe service to others as only loving others and not the self, you are by definition are talking about conditional love -where the condition is loving anyone but yourself. Or to put another way, you're describing an energy configuration that has a nearly closed orange ray - which neither STO or STS go for. Thats why STO isn't literally serving others to exclusion of yourself, because that is a conditional form of love - STO is more properly understood as serving and loving all unconditionally. This is well said. |